Trial Set for Two Former Creston Poli...

Trial Set for Two Former Creston Police Officers

There are 498 comments on the WHO-TV story from Aug 7, 2008, titled Trial Set for Two Former Creston Police Officers. In it, WHO-TV reports that:

A November 17th trial is set for two former Creston police officers accused of sexually assaulting a woman at a bar.

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whatever

Overland Park, KS

#485 Jan 2, 2009
Crestonews wrote:
I had an interesting conversation with a couple of teachers from the Creston School District. One was a middle school teacher and the other taught at the elementary. It seems the school administration new about the DM Register article and the principals told the teachers at a staff meeting to keep quiet and not to make any comment to anybody asking about the rape incident.
What does that say about the school and the community? It sounds like a great big cover-up and some intimidation on the part of the school district's administrators. I don't know what they have to cover up, except the "reputation" of the community. I really wish some national news organization would come in and do some report on our community. Maybe that would shake things up and get some change.
Not to mention these children are in school and do not need their teachers involved in commenting on this! This topic does not lie in the school.
Worried about Freedom of speech in schools!! why can't they even do the pledge of allegance?? Seriously...that is important! Talking about this rape case at school is not!
Freedom Of Speech

United States

#486 Jan 2, 2009
I'm lost here, first people are upset because poeple would not talk to the DM Resgister, now you are saying the school staff should not talk, if that is your position you should not put others down for not taking, you can not have it both ways. It is no ones job to talk about the case, but those who have an opinion should be free to say what ever they want to say.
So I ask do you want poeple of the community to take freely or not?????????? You can not pick and choose who can and who can not!!!!!!!!!!
That is a double standard, what do you you want, poeple to speak out, or poeple to shut up????????
just a question

Grand Junction, IA

#487 Jan 2, 2009
i would like people to speak up--but only if they REALLY know what they are talking about. (Guess we won't have many comments on that huh)
Creston Res

United States

#488 Jan 2, 2009
just a question wrote:
i would like people to speak up--but only if they REALLY know what they are talking about.(Guess we won't have many comments on that huh)
what are you trying to say?
whatever

Overland Park, KS

#489 Jan 2, 2009
Freedom Of Speech wrote:
I'm lost here, first people are upset because poeple would not talk to the DM Resgister, now you are saying the school staff should not talk, if that is your position you should not put others down for not taking, you can not have it both ways. It is no ones job to talk about the case, but those who have an opinion should be free to say what ever they want to say.
So I ask do you want poeple of the community to take freely or not?????????? You can not pick and choose who can and who can not!!!!!!!!!!
That is a double standard, what do you you want, poeple to speak out, or poeple to shut up????????
AllAll I am saying is that school personel and others needs to be cautious around the children. What there actual opinions are don't matter. They are the same as everyone else. Wanting to recognize that if they indeed speak, be careful as they may have one of those kids or family know about what their teacher thinks. Just throwing some side of caution is all...how they feel is their choice!
just a question

Grand Junction, IA

#490 Jan 3, 2009
to creston res, now that i look back on what i said, maybe i'm off base. This is, after all, a place for opinion's--they don't necessarily have to have the facts-just a valid opinion. Thanks for questioning my statement.
Creston

United States

#491 Jan 3, 2009
just a question wrote:
to creston res, now that i look back on what i said, maybe i'm off base. This is, after all, a place for opinion's--they don't necessarily have to have the facts-just a valid opinion. Thanks for questioning my statement.
This whole conversation started because of the artical in the Des Moines Register, and thoughts on citizens not commenting on the case. And many of those posting thought it awful that the community refused to comment. Then the post about the teaching staff being told not to comment on the case. Gee, then everyone thinks the staff should not comment. First of all, most tachers or staff are not going to comment, that is a given, but to be directed by administraters not to comment is wrong. The administration of the school system did indeed take an action that does not concern them nor has any place in the school system. The school is no diferent than a place of business, these cititizens are not going to comment on a case such as this one. My point being..no one should be told what to comment on and what not to comment on or questioned as to why they would not comment, but they should never be directed not to comment. That is a choice of the person or persons being asked the question.. This is called America, land of the free and freedom of speech is a right everyone has.....
A Constitutional Right !!!!!!!!!!
just a question

Grand Junction, IA

#492 Jan 3, 2009
Yes it is a constitutional right to speak freely about what we WANT to talk about, etc. I don't know for sure --but possibly someone just said maybe we better not talk about this publicly because it might hurt one of their "kids". and decent teachers do NOT want to hurt their kids.
I wasn't there-i don't know-just my opinion
Creston

United States

#493 Jan 3, 2009
just a question wrote:
Yes it is a constitutional right to speak freely about what we WANT to talk about, etc. I don't know for sure --but possibly someone just said maybe we better not talk about this publicly because it might hurt one of their "kids". and decent teachers do NOT want to hurt their kids.
I wasn't there-i don't know-just my opinion
I agree, my problem with this whole conversation is that the administration advised them not to comment, I have no doubt that the teachers and staff would not make a comment and "that" I support, as there are many innocent kids to think about. I also agree that the school is not the place to debate the case, but I also beleive that the teachers and staff know that and did not need to be advised not to comment. I also believe that the businesses do not want to be quoted either.
I doubt that anyone wants to have a quote, published in print, about this terrible case.
Many posting on this sight do not use thier names, and that I understand.
An instituion that stands and teaches the constituion must be carful what message they send out.
Fresh views

United States

#494 Jan 4, 2009
We do not know all the circumstances. Were the teachers told not to respond while on school property? During working hours? There are many occupations where employees are required to give up the Freedom of Speech. Lawyer's, police officers, doctors, military personnel etc....etc...
If the teachers themselves thought their rights were being infringed upon I am sure they would have protested.
Personally I did not like the article from the DMR. What was the young man trying to prove? What did he think the business owners, city council members, teachers and the mayor would say? What did he think the manager at Crestmoor would say?
I think the whole article was a slap in the face of Creston and other small towns. When has DMR come to Creston to gather info about a positive event or news story? This was just "sensationalist journalism".
He didn't interview a single "run of the mill" citizen....or at least print it. He went straight to the people he KNEW would not or possibly could not talk.
Fresh views

United States

#495 Jan 4, 2009
There is one thing I could have said better in my previous post.
There are many occupations that require conditional relinquishment of the freedom of speech. I know of no occupation the requires complete relinquishment.
Woman Power

United States

#496 Jan 4, 2009
Fresh views wrote:
We do not know all the circumstances. Were the teachers told not to respond while on school property? During working hours? There are many occupations where employees are required to give up the Freedom of Speech. Lawyer's, police officers, doctors, military personnel etc....etc...
If the teachers themselves thought their rights were being infringed upon I am sure they would have protested.
Personally I did not like the article from the DMR. What was the young man trying to prove? What did he think the business owners, city council members, teachers and the mayor would say? What did he think the manager at Crestmoor would say?
I think the whole article was a slap in the face of Creston and other small towns. When has DMR come to Creston to gather info about a positive event or news story? This was just "sensationalist journalism".
He didn't interview a single "run of the mill" citizen....or at least print it. He went straight to the people he KNEW would not or possibly could not talk.
I agree with you, you said it perfect.
CRESTON

Overland Park, KS

#497 Jan 7, 2009
We should only comment on facts and right now we don't have any!
Creston

United States

#498 Jan 7, 2009
CRESTON wrote:
We should only comment on facts and right now we don't have any!
I disagree to some degree, we do have the defendents statements..which they refused to explain.
Question

United States

#499 Feb 25, 2009
Is the trail still set for March 3. Have heard some things about a continuous. Anyone know for sure.
March 3

Waukegan, IL

#500 Feb 25, 2009
It is on the court docket but unsure if it was granted or not! They are supposed to start next week on Tuesday!! SO we should here something!
This is rediculous! Get it done already!!

Like either of them have the money to pay for this anyway...somone elses money????
Trial begins

United States

#501 Mar 4, 2009
Ex-officers' sexual abuse trial begins

Sioux City, Ia.- Creston's former police chief sat face-to-face with a country-club bartender last year and grinned while his assistant chief raped her, prosecutors alleged Tuesday.

James Christensen, the former chief, then patted the 44-year-old woman's head and told her to "shush" as she begged the men to stop, Assistant Iowa Attorney General Becky Goettsch said.

As the men left, Goettsch said, Christensen told the bartender: "This didn't happen."

The second-degree sexual abuse trial of Christensen and his assistant chief, John Sickels, began Tuesday with conflicting accounts of what happened at the Crestmoor Country Club in April.

Defense lawyers said Sickels and his accuser had both drunk heavily that night and had consensual sex. The accuser also gave inconsistent statements to authorities and her boyfriend, Sickels' lawyer, Richard McConville, charged.

Christensen's lawyer, Paul Scott, said the veteran law enforcement officer and father of two has "for eight months been living under the cloud of being accused of something he did not do."

"There is not one single thread of evidence, other than the testimony of" the accuser, Scott said. "No sign of force, no vaginal tearing, no bruising, no report of any rape for a week."

Christensen, 41, and Sickels, 39, surrendered to state authorities in July in a case that has rocked their south-central Iowa hometown. The trial was moved to Sioux City because of intense media coverage.

The accuser, a divorced mother of three, lived in Creston with her boyfriend and has planned to become an elementary school teacher, lawyers said. She is expected to testify today. The Des Moines Register does not generally identify alleged sexual assault victims.

According to prosecutors:

Christensen and Sickels arrived at the Crestmoor Country Club in Creston before 10 p.m. on April 17 and started drinking. Neither was in uniform.

Sometime after 1 a.m., after the club had emptied, Sickels asked the bartender for oral sex. When she refused, both men walked around the bar to block her. Christensen stayed near her while Sickels left to lock the front door.

Authorities have refused to say whether alcohol or drugs were involved in the alleged rape.

State crime agents interviewed both men on May 6. Sickels denied contact with the woman but later admitted that he touched and kissed her and penetrated her vagina with his finger. Pressed further, he acknowledged that he had sex with the woman but described it as consensual.

Christensen also denied contact with the woman but later acknowledged that he had touched her hand, heard her protests and saw Sickels assault her.

Des Miones Register March 4, 2009

falcon

Murray, IA

#502 Mar 13, 2009
Wouldn"t it be nice to ask these "Good Old Boy's" One Question. "Who's the Bitch NOW BOY'S??? LOL!!

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