Lockport High School considers anothe...

Lockport High School considers another referendum

There are 77 comments on the Herald News story from Apr 22, 2011, titled Lockport High School considers another referendum. In it, Herald News reports that:

In coming months, the Lockport Township High School Board will decide if it will hold a seventh referendum next spring in its so far futile effort to get voters to OK a new school.

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Jack

Los Angeles, CA

#1 Apr 22, 2011
How bout this. Build 2 new High Schools. One in Crest Hill and one is Homer. Both high schools not to exceed the 85 mil combined. Percentage of building budgets would be proportionate to the enrollment numbers.

All City of Lockport residents go to Lockport East HS.

All Crest Hill residents go to Crest Hill HS.

All Homer Glen residents go to Homer Glen HS.

As far as the small amount of Romeoville and the unincorporated folks, we can slot them in based on geograpics or schools that have more room.

I'm sure I'll get beat up for this idea, but I'm just trying to think outside the box.
Just Say No

Plano, TX

#2 Apr 22, 2011
We do not need one school, let alone 2. Back to the drawing board Jack. By the way, do you have a fact to share today?
Jack

Los Angeles, CA

#3 Apr 22, 2011
Fact - Central is 102 Years old. It has asbestos and needs millions of dollars in addl repairs.

Fact - East is 300 students over capacity, supported by the fact that there are "temporary" trailor shacks currently staggered around it.

Fact - Most who voted NO would support a new HS, as long as it's not on Homer.

Fact - You are delusional or just in pure denial.
Enough

Homer Glen, IL

#4 Apr 22, 2011
Fact: We don't need more taxes

Fact: We don't need more taxes

Fact: We don't need more taxes

I am tired of hearing about the age of Central. 102 years is new compared to a number of buildings on college campuses.

Come up with a new arguement because I am not "buying" the fact that the poor building is so old that it is just going to crumble. Put the necessary investment in the building and be done with it already.

Again, pass your referedum, build the school, give me a reason to relocate. Enough of the bickering already. Every referendum question is a waste of taxpayer money.

I am not convinced we need a new school so that means that IMHO the yes voters have not done enough to convince me. I do pay a great deal of property taxes and I am watching homes all around this area go into foreclosure.

Until the market stabilizies and the down trend stops I am sorry but the growth will be stagnant. I am in the market for a new home and will not commit to buying in Homer Glen because of this nonsense. There are many beautiful homes sitting empty selling for half of what they were worth in 2006.

I am a lifelong resident of this area and I am a LTHS 205 graduate. I was a student before this huge expansion of growth and I was raised in an area that many people on this board refer to as the slums of Lockport.

I've got news for you. It does not matter where you live. It is caring parents that help contribute to those test scores. I never had a problem getting into the college of my choice as well as graduate school. My wife, also a 205 alum, and I have done very well in part due to caring parents.

There is no substitute out there to make up for that. Education starts in the home and is only reinforced through the public education system. It is up to all of us as parents to raise our children, this includes education. Do you talk to your kids? Do you review their homework? Do you teach them if there is something they do not understand?
DLP314

Lemont, IL

#5 Apr 22, 2011
thank you well said
LMP33C

Homer Glen, IL

#6 Apr 22, 2011
Well Jack, if you would have stopped at Lockport and Crest Hill getting something new it would have been fine. However, you had the balls to suggest that Homer would get something for their tax dollars and to those As-holes, that is just not acceptable. How dare you? lol

BTW - I agree with you, that would be a fair solution. Lincoln Way did it.
Jack wrote:
How bout this. Build 2 new High Schools. One in Crest Hill and one is Homer. Both high schools not to exceed the 85 mil combined. Percentage of building budgets would be proportionate to the enrollment numbers.
All City of Lockport residents go to Lockport East HS.
All Crest Hill residents go to Crest Hill HS.
All Homer Glen residents go to Homer Glen HS.
As far as the small amount of Romeoville and the unincorporated folks, we can slot them in based on geograpics or schools that have more room.
I'm sure I'll get beat up for this idea, but I'm just trying to think outside the box.
Just Say No

Plano, TX

#7 Apr 22, 2011
Jack wrote:
Fact - Central is 102 Years old. It has asbestos and needs millions of dollars in addl repairs.
Fact - East is 300 students over capacity, supported by the fact that there are "temporary" trailor shacks currently staggered around it.
Fact - Most who voted NO would support a new HS, as long as it's not on Homer.
Fact - You are delusional or just in pure denial.
Jack, you gave one fact and only one for that matter. Central does have Asbestos, but so do 20 million other building in the US. Why don't you pay for abatement in all of those buildings. Everything else you provided is pure fiction.

Jack, you have officially been crowned the King Dipshit on these boards. Congratulations.
DLP314

Lemont, IL

#8 Apr 22, 2011
The fact that you wanted to build the campus in HG was just the icing on the cake of hell no. Asbestos please those kids are there nine months what life safety issues? that asbestos is not a danger at this time. Asbestos is a great fire retardant, Isn't that your main concern with Central that its a fire trap?
DLP314

Lemont, IL

#9 Apr 22, 2011
DEAR LMP33C- I am curious- mayybe LO has the answer, what exactly does Hg pay into 205 and then all the other areas what do they pay? I would like to see a breakdown for the last fifty years of who paid what-
Concerned

Homer Glen, IL

#10 Jun 6, 2012
They need to redo the boundaries to Lockport High School. There is no reason that Crest Hill students couldn't go to Romeoville High School. They are closer to Romeoville than to Lockport. Also, this years Romeoville High School had 400 students in their graduating class. They could afford to take on some more students. Try that first and see how it goes.
Dumber than rocks

Lemont, IL

#11 Jun 6, 2012
Asbestos is in every old home, old school, old department stores, and any old buiilding. Left undisturbed it is not a danger. A few years back Kg Schools had their asbestos removed. You cannot go into even City Hall and think there is no asbestos as it is everywhere. Children do not have to worry about it nor does anyone else. It is only when it is disturbed by non professionals that there is a danger. As for Lockport, how many times are they going to try their best to get a school? It is not going to happen. The best suggestion I have heard on here is let Crest Hill go to Romeoville. They are close and could handle those kids. It would be a solution for all. As for Homer Glen, get ripped! You are not going to get a high school in this area ever. The people do not want it nor do we see a need for it. You and your high standards can build your own or do with ours. It is your choice but over and over it is defeated and will continue to be so. Bye!
Hardliner

Homer Glen, IL

#12 Jun 6, 2012
Concerned wrote:
They need to redo the boundaries to Lockport High School. There is no reason that Crest Hill students couldn't go to Romeoville High School. They are closer to Romeoville than to Lockport. Also, this years Romeoville High School had 400 students in their graduating class. They could afford to take on some more students. Try that first and see how it goes.
The Cedar Road campus was never about head count, it was about stroking the egos of certain area residents and our fearless leader superintendent.

With the dramatic decline in the economy and enrollment thank God cooler and smarter heads prevailed in that vanity project. Can you imagine what our property taxes would be right now if we didn't!?!?!?
your dollars

United States

#13 Jun 6, 2012
dont let school spend money on central and raise your taxes each year to do so they can an will an the cost to u will not fix the overcroding
Senior Homewowner

Lemont, IL

#14 Jun 6, 2012
No way would I ever vote for a new school in Homer Glen nor would my husband or all of my friends. You are dreaming!
your dollars

Whiting, IN

#15 Jun 7, 2012
Senior Homewowner wrote:
No way would I ever vote for a new school in Homer Glen nor would my husband or all of my friends. You are dreaming!
it must be nice to be so rich that u can aford to make poor choices pay to fix old school ad later a new one i hope your neibors are as wealty good luck
No Thank You

West Chicago, IL

#16 Jun 7, 2012
Fiscally this makes no sense and the high school has a record of raising taxes and dishonesty that they will not be able to recover from. Enrollment has been decreasing and the market is in the can for at least another decade.

Lincolnway has empty seats from passing their referendums and we would have the same if we had done so. A suggestion would be to redraw the boundaries so that the southern half of Homer Glen goes to Lincolnway and fill their empty seats.

Fix Central. No one wants to see an abandon building in their town and this won't be supported by Lockport.
Concerned

Homer Glen, IL

#17 Jun 7, 2012
I agree that we don't need a new high school. I'm saying we should redo boundaries to ease the overcrowding at Lockport. Send Crest Hill to Romeoville and then see if that helps. If need be, some Homer students that live further southwest could go to Lincolnway. School officials should learn to live within their means just like the rest of us do. No need to build new.
ISBE

Naperville, IL

#18 Jun 7, 2012
Concerned wrote:
I agree that we don't need a new high school. I'm saying we should redo boundaries to ease the overcrowding at Lockport. Send Crest Hill to Romeoville and then see if that helps. If need be, some Homer students that live further southwest could go to Lincolnway. School officials should learn to live within their means just like the rest of us do. No need to build new.
Boundaries are set by the Illinois State Board of Education.

The ISBE has consolidated dozens of school districts over the past 30 years. State law which is nearly 40 years old does allow a multi-step process to petition the ISBE to change the boundaries.

The ISBE will never allow the change in the District 205 boundaries.

Therefore, any talk about changing boundaries is a dead issue the moment the idea crosses anyone's mind.
No Thank You

West Chicago, IL

#19 Jun 7, 2012
ISBE wrote:
<quoted text>
Boundaries are set by the Illinois State Board of Education.
The ISBE has consolidated dozens of school districts over the past 30 years. State law which is nearly 40 years old does allow a multi-step process to petition the ISBE to change the boundaries.
The ISBE will never allow the change in the District 205 boundaries.
Therefore, any talk about changing boundaries is a dead issue the moment the idea crosses anyone's mind.
Not sure I believe this. I am sure it would be a complicated process. But during the 6 referendums the public was informed many times that boundaries could be changed if all schools and communities were in favor of it.
ISBE

Naperville, IL

#20 Jun 7, 2012
No Thank You wrote:
<quoted text>
Not sure I believe this. I am sure it would be a complicated process. But during the 6 referendums the public was informed many times that boundaries could be changed if all schools and communities were in favor of it.
Believe what you want. I gave accurate information. The law was changed in 1976. I believe the law was amended in 1980 to make it virtually impossible for the creation of new school districts. If you don't believe me you can spend an hour doing the research.

The basis of the whole boundary argument is wanting Homer Glen to build their own school. That can't and won't happen. Crest Hill is within the District 205 boundaries. It will always be within the 205 boundaries. Therefore, all current and future students will go to a District 205 boundary. So sending those students to Valley View 365U isn't and won't ever be an option.

It only makes sense that those living west of I-355 would go to the current school and those living east of I-355 will go to a new school on Cedar Road.

There will come a time in the future when the economy picks up. The enrollment will once again go up and eventually exceed current maximum levels. Then what? Building onto the East Campus isn't an option.

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