Could Crawfordsville see smoking ban?

Could Crawfordsville see smoking ban?

There are 35 comments on the WISH-TV 8 Indiana News story from Sep 18, 2008, titled Could Crawfordsville see smoking ban?. In it, WISH-TV 8 Indiana News reports that:

Communities all over the country are going smoke-free. If a group of Montgomery County citizens have their way, Crawfordsville could be next.

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“Non smoking freedom loving vet”

Since: Apr 08

Chicago

#23 Nov 16, 2008
just candid wrote:
<quoted text> Give it time, even you and your ilk will learn to live with it.
We are adjusting to it. It's becoming non existant in many places.
Fred the Citizen

Indianapolis, IN

#24 Nov 16, 2008
Ha, burning tobacco is one of the best smells ever. And it helps toughen your lungs for all the pollution out there, when you smoke a lot, you can only get more healthy in all the bad air out there.

You don't have to spend a lot of cigs anyway, there are plenty of places that will sell them to you real cheap if you are a regular.
petie

Salem, OR

#25 Nov 16, 2008
I live in the Northwest
We have a had a smoking ban for 5 years here
A pack of ciggs will run $8.00 a pack
The reason here is that the cancer related disease are costly & the state is tired of picking up the tab on health care
I worked on a respiratory unit & the vent units cannot be built fast enough for all that are in need most are related to smoking but M.S. is big here we have the highest M.S. in the country
We also have a law if caught throwing a cigg out the window of a moving car is a $500.00 fine
needless to say fire season here is another issue in itself lighting strikes cause some but most are careless campers
The list is only going to take more rights away babies being born with RSV
In California most apartment complexes have a ban if you are a smoker they will not rent to you
God bless our firefighters

“Non smoking freedom loving vet”

Since: Apr 08

Chicago

#27 Nov 17, 2008
petie wrote:
I live in the Northwest
We have a had a smoking ban for 5 years here
A pack of ciggs will run $8.00 a pack
The reason here is that the cancer related disease are costly & the state is tired of picking up the tab on health care
I worked on a respiratory unit & the vent units cannot be built fast enough for all that are in need most are related to smoking but M.S. is big here we have the highest M.S. in the country
We also have a law if caught throwing a cigg out the window of a moving car is a $500.00 fine
needless to say fire season here is another issue in itself lighting strikes cause some but most are careless campers
The list is only going to take more rights away babies being born with RSV
In California most apartment complexes have a ban if you are a smoker they will not rent to you
God bless our firefighters
During the fire season, the logic of forcing people to smoke outside in the wind instead of safely inside using fire resistant ash trays makes absolutly no sense whatsoever. I'm surprised that the firefighters aren't bringing this up.
just candid

AOL

#28 Nov 17, 2008
generalsn1234567 wrote:
<quoted text> During the fire season, the logic of forcing people to smoke outside in the wind instead of safely inside using fire resistant ash trays makes absolutly no sense whatsoever. I'm surprised that the firefighters aren't bringing this up.
I've been told that in areas of the West when fire danger is considered high, it is illegal to smoke in your auto or outside.
Fed up wit it

Lapel, IN

#29 Nov 17, 2008
Fred fo President

“Veritas Vincit. Pro Libertate”

Since: Jun 08

peoples republic of Madison

#31 Nov 17, 2008
petie wrote:
I live in the Northwest
We have a had a smoking ban for 5 years here
A pack of ciggs will run $8.00 a pack
The reason here is that the cancer related disease are costly & the state is tired of picking up the tab on health care
I worked on a respiratory unit & the vent units cannot be built fast enough for all that are in need most are related to smoking but M.S. is big here we have the highest M.S. in the country
We also have a law if caught throwing a cigg out the window of a moving car is a $500.00 fine
needless to say fire season here is another issue in itself lighting strikes cause some but most are careless campers
The list is only going to take more rights away babies being born with RSV
In California most apartment complexes have a ban if you are a smoker they will not rent to you
God bless our firefighters
The so called health care costs are yet another myth perpetrated by tobacco control. Smokers cost society far less then non-smokers. When will you people try the truth for a change?

Obese individuals had the highest health care costs from age 20 to 56, and obese individuals and smokers had a higher rate of heart disease than healthy individuals, the study found. However, the study found that obese individuals and smokers had lower lifetime health care costs than healthy individuals because they died earlier.

On average, healthy individuals lived 84 years, compared with 80 years for obese individuals and 77 years for smokers, the study found. Healthy individuals on average had lifetime health care costs of $417,000, compared with $371,000 for obese individuals and $326,000 for smokers, according to the study.
http://www.kaisernetwork.org/daily_reports/re...

Since: Jan 07

Deerfield, IL

#32 Nov 17, 2008
Another fine example of the great nanny state in action.
Ronnie

Indianapolis, IN

#33 Nov 17, 2008
We deregulated the insurance and medical professions and allowed them to become industrialized around 1980. The plan was for competition to cause the costs savings that we were always promised. However, instead we got an industrial machine that was based on greed and profits. Profits that have the largest inflation rate of any industry in the world. Smokers were a large part of that profit making industry, and still are. But that's OK, the medical industry needs smokers. As for obese people, there are many causes for obesity, some easy to manage and many not easy. Our insurance industry doesn't support treatments for obesity as they do for smoking. Mostly because they have not found the profit vectors that exist for the smoking related diseases. Once the profit vectors for obesity have been found, the AMA will push congress and the insurance industry to start supplying benefits for those vectors.

Now allowing smokers to congregate in closed spaces like bars and such is a good thing. It allows concentration of the tobacco toxins and time for them to be infused into the smokers. This is good in that it provides an increased disease risk and therefore a much greater profit vector for the medical industry. As long as there is profit to be made, it's a good thing.

“Non smoking freedom loving vet”

Since: Apr 08

Chicago

#34 Nov 20, 2008
How sad to see another small town caving in to paid lobbyists. Smoking in public places, such as court houses or city buildings is, of course, the choice of the government. Do you not realize that small businesses belong to private individuals who USED to have property rights in this country.
They have paid with years of work to own their own property.
If you do not want to be around smoke, go to non smoking venues. There are lots of them to chose from.
The people who want to control smoking are not even from your community. They simply fund those ladies who are badgering your City Council.
Johnson and Johnson Co., who just happen to make Chantix, Nicoderm and Nicoderm CQ, donate hundreds of millions of dollars per year through their partner, the James Wood Johnson Foundation, which sends the money through the World Health Organization. The money then goes to groups calling themselves Anti Smoking or Anti Tobacco or some other name. These groups consist of ladies who work in your Health Department. They are paid well and receive great insurance and retirement. They do not even clock out of their County jobs to lobby your Councilmen.
Doctors love this as they are big investors in pharma stocks and write the prescriptions, too! Your local paper makes good advertising dollars. ALL the big guys win.
Just imagine how many sick people could actually be helped if our Health Departments were not so busy buying ads and making posters and pamphlets!
Try walking into a Health Department and asking for help for an illness or even to quit smoking. What a shock that would be for them.
Hopefully all small business people will support each others private business rights. Don't think that these people will stop. They don't. They will never run out of pharmaceutical company money.
Call your council people. Register to vote.
If you feel like you MUST control other peoples lives- STOP- take a long look in the mirror. Read the facts. They are available.
Smoking is stinky to non smokers. Fat people are yucky to skinnies. Fords are worthless to Chevy people.
I doubt most people even go into bars. For some people it beats the heck out of sitting home alone, watching TV and getting fat.
Don't you find it curious that these lobbiest AND your government have not even suggested banning the sale of tobacco products??? Then people would quit smoking. I guess the government doesn't want to give up their dollars from this horrible, deadly product.? They also do not want to tackle the big boys- Dillons, Kwik Shops, WalMart. Those guys CAN afford to fight back and would.
Pick on the little guys. How sad
petie

Salem, OR

#38 Nov 20, 2008
Sad but true
The Evils of this world are upon us all
The government is getting more control on everyone rights
Universal health care is next in line & Kaiser will be the first in line to jump to the challenge of wanting to be a part of the manage universal health care
Micheal Moore had this in his movie where the man died from a brain tumor because Kaiser misdiagnosed him , Telling the man he was having panic attacks the family won millions in their law suit right here in Vancouver WA
Iz Wrong

Schiller Park, IL

#39 Dec 16, 2008
just candid wrote:
<quoted text> I've been told that in areas of the West when fire danger is considered high, it is illegal to smoke in your auto or outside.
You likely have been told a lie. On GOVERNMENT owned properties they may restrict smoking outside to certain areas. I know of noplace that restricts smoking in a privately owned vehicle. Can you reference "they said"?
Iz Wrong

Schiller Park, IL

#40 Dec 16, 2008
petie wrote:
I live in the Northwest

We also have a law if caught throwing a cigg out the window of a moving car is a $500.00 fine

In California most apartment complexes have a ban if you are a smoker they will not rent to you
God bless our firefighters
On the left coast SOME apartment complexes in SOME areas will not rent to smokers. There is a whole lot more to the left coast and northwest than the coastal areas. You can find establishments in California that will let people get away with smoking because they are out and away from the nanny centers.

We have had a law here about throwing cigarettes out of vehicle windows for decades. Here we call it littering. What do they call it in the northwest?

“Fredneck County Md”

Since: Feb 08

Small Town

#41 Dec 16, 2008
Iz Wrong wrote:
<quoted text>
On the left coast SOME apartment complexes in SOME areas will not rent to smokers. There is a whole lot more to the left coast and northwest than the coastal areas. You can find establishments in California that will let people get away with smoking because they are out and away from the nanny centers.
We have had a law here about throwing cigarettes out of vehicle windows for decades. Here we call it littering. What do they call it in the northwest?
Uz Right... LOL!
Phoenix

United States

#45 Apr 6, 2009
You MIGHT have a point, all the way up until you said if you are offended avoid it. You can not avoid being in public. It is not to much to ask for a smoker to be conscious of his/her smoke and not blow smoke all over people that may not want to smell it.

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