Daniels says I-69 south could include...

Daniels says I-69 south could include tolls

There are 75 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Mar 26, 2007, titled Daniels says I-69 south could include tolls. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Gov. Mitch Daniels said today the state may have to turn to traditional funding --- state and federal gas tax revenues --- in order to complete the 142-mile Interstate 69 extension between Indianapolis and ...

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Really

La Vergne, TN

#1 Mar 26, 2007
We don't need it built.

We don't want another toll road.
Where is the money going

United States

#2 Mar 26, 2007
Reports issued today claim that the State of Indiana is earning $6.00 per second in interest! Where is the money going? Do you realize what $6.00 per second really means?
$360.00 per Minute.
$21,600 per Hour
$518,400 per Day
$15,552,000 per Month
$186,624,000 per Year
I know that I went to public school, but that is a lot of money, and we have yet to touch the principle. And now My Man Mitch wants us $13.00 per hour citizens to pay for his road.
So where is this money going?
Sean

Chicago, IL

#3 Mar 26, 2007
So let me get this straight. We're going to "extend" I-69 from Evansville halfway to Indianapolis, and then just dead end it for six or seven years? I-69 won't even connect to anything? Why aren't they just starting it in Indianapolis? At least it would then be an extension and be usable...

Since: Mar 07

United States

#4 Mar 26, 2007
Reports issued today claim that the State of Indiana is earning $6.00 per second in interest! Where is the money going? Do you realize what $6.00 per second really means?

$360.00 per Minute.
$21,600 per Hour
$518,400 per Day
$15,552,000 per Month
$186,624,000 per Year

I know that I went to public school, but that is a lot of money, and we have yet to touch the principle. And now My Man Mitch wants us $13.00 per hour citizens to pay for his road.

So where is this money going?
told you so

Bridgeport, WV

#5 Mar 26, 2007
I have an idea. How about ALL the politicians leaving the money from the toll road "lease" alone for a year. The intrest should offset the need for another toll. But I said before they will spend the money they got before the road projects were complete.
Practical

Newburgh, IN

#6 Mar 26, 2007
It's a shame that an outspoken few caused the Commerce Connector to be nixed - and as a result, we'll likely pay for I-69 in increased taxes or by tolls.

I think the ICC was an innovative idea that allowed for the state to plan ahead with growth in the Indy metro area without costing the taxpayers an extra dime. Instead, we got opposition from people who live too close to the city to expect to indefinitely hold onto their large land plots complain that they want the "country" to stay the "country." If you want to live the rural lifestyle, that's entirely your choice. You just need to recognize that when that rural area is adjacent to an urban area, you run the risk that, some day, your little slice o' heaven will be shared with others. Between that group and the head-in-the-clouds mass transit proponents, no wonder Mitch pulled the plug. Now, we're left with no highway for the future of Indianapolis (because, face it, there will be an outer beltway built within many of our lifetimes), no mass transit because it's simply not viable for a city with the population density of Indianapolis, and an I-69 that we'll have to pay for as taxpayers.

Nice going, bellyachers. I hope you're happy with the selfish gripes you voiced. Just keep that in mind when progress happens (you can't stop it) and YOU will be the one paying for it instead of a private consortium.

Since: Mar 07

United States

#7 Mar 26, 2007
The Priciple is from the Major Moves sell off of the Indiana Toll Road.
just wondering

Indianapolis, IN

#9 Mar 26, 2007
Is this where you log on to complain about Mitch Daniels? It seems that's what everyone does when there is an article mentioning anything the guy is trying to do to to help the state out. Just wondering...I just want to be like everyone else...just a complainer waiting for state handouts.
American

South Vienna, OH

#11 Mar 26, 2007
How thick is this moron?

No tolls.

There's no way to get to Bloomington without using 37, so it's just trapping us into his stupid toll road.

Just as this moron was starting to get his administration back on track and not cost us the Gov's office in 2008, he goes back on his word and brings back tolls.

Mitch has created so much enmity at his dumb ideas that may cost the Republicans Indiana's electoral votes in 2008. When was the last time Indiana voted for a Democrat President?

Wake up, Mitch.
boeingman

Lexington, KY

#12 Mar 26, 2007
The CAVE (Citizens Against Virtually Everything) have assured tolls on I-69. They didn't want the Connector which would have paid for the new highway. Be careful what you ask for clowns, you just got it. These people with their stone age mentality want us to live in caves too.
Northern Lights

Mishawaka, IN

#13 Mar 26, 2007
I don't want to say I told you so... that the 3.8 Billion won't go as far as MMM said it would... but here we go... more evidence of the bait and switch that was the Toll Road lease... Remember how it was going to solve all our road funding needs for the next 15 years? Looks like it is running out a bit sooner than that...
Not surprised

Nineveh, IN

#15 Mar 26, 2007
American wrote:
How thick is this moron?
No tolls.
There's no way to get to Bloomington without using 37, so it's just trapping us into his stupid toll road.
Just as this moron was starting to get his administration back on track and not cost us the Gov's office in 2008, he goes back on his word and brings back tolls.
Mitch has created so much enmity at his dumb ideas that may cost the Republicans Indiana's electoral votes in 2008. When was the last time Indiana voted for a Democrat President?
Wake up, Mitch.
I suspected this would happen when he suddenly "dropped" the
tolls on 37/69 and introduced the ICC a week or so later. That
man wants a toll road to sell...er, lease. It's a way to make
money for other pet projects. And anyone that thinks that's
progress should be checking INDOT's website for old studies
done. Who knows which one will be picked out and dusted off
next? There's still full-day kindergarten to be paid for, and
health insurance for all....
Patrick Horn

Chicago, IL

#16 Mar 26, 2007
Although a faster route to Evansville is needed, but why take it through the most beautiful area in Indiana. Have any of you ever been to Greene County. Those citizens live down there to be away from the city life. All we are doing is bringing the city to them. An interstate will bring nothing more than commercial businesses to the area. The people that work at Crane are from the local area. As many times that I have drove past crane and through the area, I have NEVER seen anything coming or going from Crane. Maybe we should keep Crane hidden and hard to get to.
Southern Girl

Evansville, IN

#17 Mar 26, 2007
I live in Evansville and commute on a regular basis to Indy to see my family. I'm all for I-69 being built; that being said, I won't travel it with toll booths. With gas prices the way they are and rising, I can spend the same amount of money on gas and a little more of my time, rather than pay some outrageous toll just to go home. It'll even out in the end. And if there are more people out there who think like me, then Indiana has wasted how much money to build I-69 and then won't make anything from it. Mitch needs to think this one through.
William Robert

Indianapolis, IN

#18 Mar 26, 2007
37 is 69, they just need about 10 stop lights removed and a few overpasses. IT doesnt sound that difficult. The hard part is cutting a new path through the southern hills and bedrock.
Fishers Resident

Union, KY

#19 Mar 26, 2007
Just for Fun wrote:
Reports issued today claim that the State of Indiana is earning $6.00 per second in interest! Where is the money going? Do you realize what $6.00 per second really means?
$360.00 per Minute.
$21,600 per Hour
$518,400 per Day
$15,552,000 per Month
$186,624,000 per Year
I know that I went to public school, but that is a lot of money, and we have yet to touch the principle. And now My Man Mitch wants us $13.00 per hour citizens to pay for his road.
So where is this money going?
The principle & the interest have both already been alloted to proposed projects for the next 10 years. There's that much road work that needs and/or is slated to be done.
i have a clue

United States

#20 Mar 26, 2007
it is painfully obvious that the majority of people dont have a clue as to what goes on and what is needed outside of indianapolis there is a very large employer called crane in sw indiana look it up sometime and maybe you will see how important this pace is i69 is needed the majority of people in indy are ignorant and selfish
Jim

League City, TX

#21 Mar 26, 2007
We still don't need that I 69. Upgrading I70 and US41 was proven to save hundred's of million dollars vs new terrain....all for the savings of 15 minutes between Indy and Evansville. If they want that new terrain route bad enough, it should be a toll road. Why should I pay it? Let those who want it pay it.
William Robert

Indianapolis, IN

#22 Mar 26, 2007
"State officials have estimated that the route would cost about $1.7 billion to build and save about 23 minutes in travel time between Evansville and Indianapolis"

23 minutes......Is this really worth it?
I never understood why they just cant upgrade 41, or people use 65 to 64.
Bob from Martinsville

Lexington, KY

#23 Mar 26, 2007
I voted for Mitch and have been quite disappointed in some of his proposals - toll roads being just one. Toll roads may make sense for the east coast, but not for the central part of the United States. The same can be said about Daylight Savings Time. We have much more in common with the people of St. Louis, Chicago, and Memphis than we do with New Yorkers, Bostonians and the Washington DC elite.

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