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doit urself

San Jose, CA

#21 Aug 11, 2011
Nope, I am not on the Board for Fire Dept. or board of commissioners, because believe me if I were, our Fire Dept. would have remained opened. Resident from what I gather this is all over fire chief and the town wanting to have the say in who is fire chief. You can throw in spending complaints or all the political jargon you want, but this is about personal feelings toward current fire chief. The way you explain things and defend town then it is obvious you are also one sided, I bet you go to Tavern and eat and drink after each town council meeting too. See people can tell when a town has turned into a "clique" and either way you swing it that is what this is now. There is no reason for the people to go to the meetings because we have you there to inform of what really going on right? So why should we bother, things may have been spent or could have been done differently but to have the Fire Dept. shut down because of this is uncalled for period.
CramertonBoy

York, SC

#22 Aug 11, 2011
Since "cramertonresident" knows so much about the town tell us about the 6 foot marijuana plants found at the waste water treatment plant that the town employees were growing or maybe you can tell us about the golf clubs and other items that the town manager took when the police dept transfered from north main st to julia ave .
CramertonBoy

Belmont, NC

#23 Aug 14, 2011
Mrs Lawrence we are still waiting for you to completely "put this rumor to rest". If elected do you intend to resign so the Town can appoint someone else??
seeker

Rock Hill, SC

#24 Aug 14, 2011
Yes Ms. Lawrence put on the record that if you are re-elected (fat chance) you will not resign so that those still there can continue with thier one sided yes yes yes yes yes all the time. Please does anybody down there ever say NO?
seeker

Rock Hill, SC

#25 Aug 14, 2011
In response to the Town Manager and the "golf clubs" i am more interested in where he is on Friday afternoon's... usually cannot find anybody around after lunch.. can you say golf course?
CramertonCitizen

Belmont, NC

#26 Aug 14, 2011
Cramerton Resident wrote:
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I am not trying to help anyone, its just that this past year the tax payers of Cramerton paid an extra $8,000 to bail out the fire department because they are spend crazy. Explain to me why cramerton needs a $40,000 fire boat? If the town would have had a say so this would not have happened. Are you aware of what the dispute between the town and fire department stem from? Do you know what new equipment was purchased by the fire department this past year. Do you know how much is needed this year to purchase a new fire truck that is needed. Unless you are on the Board of Directors or you attend town council meetings I am sure you have no idea because I don't think you are on the board and I know for a fact you don't come to council meetings.
The "bail out" you mention was to repair a blown motor on one of trucks. An unexpected expense. The budget is not written with such major anticipated expenses included. The need for those funds was not in response to overspending. The request for those funds was approved by the council.

And the boat was gotten with grant money from the state...with the intent of being able to provide adequate protection in anticipation of Goat Island and Greenway needs....again, with full support from town council.
Cramerton Resident

Cramerton, NC

#27 Aug 16, 2011
doit urself wrote:
Nope, I am not on the Board for Fire Dept. or board of commissioners, because believe me if I were, our Fire Dept. would have remained opened. Resident from what I gather this is all over fire chief and the town wanting to have the say in who is fire chief. You can throw in spending complaints or all the political jargon you want, but this is about personal feelings toward current fire chief. The way you explain things and defend town then it is obvious you are also one sided, I bet you go to Tavern and eat and drink after each town council meeting too. See people can tell when a town has turned into a "clique" and either way you swing it that is what this is now. There is no reason for the people to go to the meetings because we have you there to inform of what really going on right? So why should we bother, things may have been spent or could have been done differently but to have the Fire Dept. shut down because of this is uncalled for period.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I do have to admit you above statement is the most stupid, lazy, answer I have ever in my life heard. You don't come to meetings because you have other people tell you what is going on, my god do you ever vote? Do you ever think on your own because from what I am reading you don't
Cramerton Resident

Cramerton, NC

#28 Aug 16, 2011
seeker wrote:
In response to the Town Manager and the "golf clubs" i am more interested in where he is on Friday afternoon's... usually cannot find anybody around after lunch.. can you say golf course?
I tell you Seeker, if you need to find Mr Peoples and you can't on Friday afternoons try checking usually and other day of the week around 7, 8, or 9 oclock, he is usually still at town hall working, also I have found him there on many Saturdays and Sundays, grow up his job is not 9 to 5, he attends many meeting in the evenings, and has to attend state workshops out of town for several days, my god you make me sick.
Cramerton Resident

Cramerton, NC

#29 Aug 16, 2011
CramertonCitizen wrote:
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The "bail out" you mention was to repair a blown motor on one of trucks. An unexpected expense. The budget is not written with such major anticipated expenses included. The need for those funds was not in response to overspending. The request for those funds was approved by the council.
And the boat was gotten with grant money from the state...with the intent of being able to provide adequate protection in anticipation of Goat Island and Greenway needs....again, with full support from town council.
cramertoncitizen, it is apparent you have never managed a company because you are supose to budget for emergencies such as blown engine in the fire truck and prior to this past chief the fire dept had a $20,000 emergency fund set up just for situations like this but you Board of Directors felt paying cash for a new bush truck was more important that having the emergency fund. The board did not support giving the money to the fire dept, but they had no choice (I was at the council meeting but to fix the truck

As far as the boat the state grant did not cover all the expense only 50%. Now that you have the boat how many Cramerton emergencies have you been on in the past year, I am not talking joy rides which are very common, how many fires have you taken the boat to. I know you will not answer that but the answer is NONE.
do iturself

San Jose, CA

#30 Aug 17, 2011
Resident, no.....you not knowing that was sarcastic comment is what is stupid. My point is simple the CVFD really can't do anything until November.....then when we see who runs for council and so on, then maybe with town people behind the new council, they can come back to where they belong. This is the hope of the majority of the town, whether they go to meetings or not, the town wants it to stay the same. I really can't believe it has came to this mud slinging and tearing down of each other in this town. Ronnie is a good person, I just feel he has got pulled in wrong direction. It will all settle but the hurt feelings and words that citizens in this town that have known each other for a long long time have been spewing at each other is the thing that upsets me most. Relationships have been damaged here and so bad that there is no going back, its just sad. I am talking about people that have lived here and known each other from children into adulthood, its just a sad sad time in Cramerton.
Cramerton Resident

Cramerton, NC

#31 Aug 17, 2011
do iturself wrote:
Resident, no.....you not knowing that was sarcastic comment is what is stupid. My point is simple the CVFD really can't do anything until November.....then when we see who runs for council and so on, then maybe with town people behind the new council, they can come back to where they belong. This is the hope of the majority of the town, whether they go to meetings or not, the town wants it to stay the same. I really can't believe it has came to this mud slinging and tearing down of each other in this town. Ronnie is a good person, I just feel he has got pulled in wrong direction. It will all settle but the hurt feelings and words that citizens in this town that have known each other for a long long time have been spewing at each other is the thing that upsets me most. Relationships have been damaged here and so bad that there is no going back, its just sad. I am talking about people that have lived here and known each other from children into adulthood, its just a sad sad time in Cramerton.
Its totally crazy but to an extent I agree with you. Unfortunately, it seems a lot of people do not understand our form of government and how it works. The five members of the town council (not the mayor) agreed changes needed to be made in the fire dept, end of story. If the people of Cramerton are not satisfied with the results then it is as you said changes can be made by the November upcoming election. We the people vote on who we want in office, there are over 3200 residents in the town limits yet less than 1000 people come out to vote. If you did not vote in the last election then in reality you should not have a voice in what is going on. We elect the council members to represent us in town decisions and again if you are not happy then vote for a change, but as it stands now our council has decided we need a new fire chief and that is what is going to happen reguardless of how much we debate this. I do hope you are wrong about friends turning against each other, this is business not personal, I support the town decision but if after the election some new council members vote to make things as they were then I will embrace it, I won't like it but I will abide by their decision.
CramertonCitizen

Belmont, NC

#32 Aug 18, 2011
Cramerton Resident wrote:
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cramertoncitizen, it is apparent you have never managed a company because you are supose to budget for emergencies such as blown engine in the fire truck and prior to this past chief the fire dept had a $20,000 emergency fund set up just for situations like this but you Board of Directors felt paying cash for a new bush truck was more important that having the emergency fund. The board did not support giving the money to the fire dept, but they had no choice (I was at the council meeting but to fix the truck
As far as the boat the state grant did not cover all the expense only 50%. Now that you have the boat how many Cramerton emergencies have you been on in the past year, I am not talking joy rides which are very common, how many fires have you taken the boat to. I know you will not answer that but the answer is NONE.
C-R, With the council's increasing need to scrutinize the budget each year, we have not been allowed to ask for any extra funds. In fact, when the last truck was paid off, the FD asked to continue to receive funds to be allotted for the upcoming need to replace another truck. The town opted not to do that but DID promise to set aside funds each year for a down payment when a truck was needed. Of course, the town did not do so.

It has been through frugal spending and managing the funds well that we were able to invest and save money to replace the outdated brush truck WITHOUT asking for money from the town. Rather than that being a 'plus' reflecting our budgeting, we are criticized for not 'asking permission' to buy the truck. Some of the firefighters are skilled 'handymen' and as such, have saved us a lot. The council could have refused the extra funding, but the truck would then be out of service and affect the available service.

The boat has not had any calls to fight fire. We've had a few rescue calls (people in the water, hit by a train, etc). The 'joy rides' you refer to are either the monthly required check-offs or for training. Further, the state did pay for half, the town and FD together paying the rest. And the cost was around $31,000, not $40,000.
CramertonBoy

Belmont, NC

#33 Sep 25, 2011
I guess we will never know atleast until after the election.
CramertonBoy wrote:
Mrs Lawrence we are still waiting for you to completely "put this rumor to rest". If elected do you intend to resign so the Town can appoint someone else??

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