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#1 Dec 20, 2012
There have been 2,074 US troops killed in Afghanistan since the war started there. That number is a little inaccurate because some troops have been killed outside the country but were there to support the war. That number seems to be around 200 or so since the war started. That is terrible. I am sure we would all agree.
The Seattle times had an article today about gun deaths in the United States. Gun deaths by homicide, suicide and accident peaked to 37,666 in 1993. The low year 2000 where 28,393 died. Since then the total has risen back to 31,328 in 2010.
Now lets take the the average of the number of gun deaths in the United States per year since 1993. I only have numbers for 1993, 2000, and 2010. 37,666 +28,393 + 31,328 = 97,387 for those three years only. If we divide that by 3 it = an average of 32,462 people that die as a result of murder, suicide or accident per year.
From 1993 up to and including 2010 that would be 17 years. Now multiply 17 years X 32,462 = 551,854.
wondering
#2 Dec 21, 2012
There have been 2,074 US troops killed in Afghanistan since the war started there. That number is a little inaccurate because some troops have been killed outside the country but were there to support the war. That number seems to be around 200 or so since the war started. That is terrible. I am sure we would all agree.
The Seattle times had an article today about gun deaths in the United States. Gun deaths by homicide, suicide and accident peaked to 37,666 in 1993. The low year 2000 where 28,393 died. Since then the total has risen back to 31,328 in 2010.
Now lets take the the average of the number of gun deaths in the United States per year since 1993. I only have numbers for 1993, 2000, and 2010. 37,666 +28,393 + 31,328 = 97,387 for those three years only. If we divide that by 3 it = an average of 32,462 people that die as a result of murder, suicide or accident per year.
From 1993 up to and including 2010 that would be 17 years. Now multiply 17 years X 32,462 = 551,854.
okay ....wonder what the number is for the people that has been SAVED because of a gun ?? bet its higher.
Citizenn

United States

#3 Dec 21, 2012
There have been 2,074 US troops killed in Afghanistan since the war started there. That number is a little inaccurate because some troops have been killed outside the country but were there to support the war. That number seems to be around 200 or so since the war started. That is terrible. I am sure we would all agree.
The Seattle times had an article today about gun deaths in the United States. Gun deaths by homicide, suicide and accident peaked to 37,666 in 1993. The low year 2000 where 28,393 died. Since then the total has risen back to 31,328 in 2010.
Now lets take the the average of the number of gun deaths in the United States per year since 1993. I only have numbers for 1993, 2000, and 2010. 37,666 +28,393 + 31,328 = 97,387 for those three years only. If we divide that by 3 it = an average of 32,462 people that die as a result of murder, suicide or accident per year.
From 1993 up to and including 2010 that would be 17 years. Now multiply 17 years X 32,462 = 551,854.
Those numbers are very misleading. Most of those deaths are suicides. Also included in those figures are legal shootings, such as self defense and police shootings. How many people were killed by something other than guns, such as knives and bats? That number is conveniently left out and would show people kill people, not guns. Guns ownership is a Constitutionally protected RIGHT.

Those that would sacrifice liberty for temporary security deserve NEITHER.~Ben Franklin
#4 Dec 21, 2012
Amazing- NRA suggested a gun in every school. How about a teacher in every gun shop? People actually pay dues and some of which I am sure goes to pay his wages. What a waste of money.
#5 Dec 21, 2012
Mr Cititizen. About half of suicides are committed with guns. That number is around 18,000. Many other types of committing suicide fail. When a gun is used the failure rate is pretty small. People kill people with guns. We certainly do have a right to own a gun lets make it a six shooter. There are several instances in this country where a mass killing was attempted and when his 6 shells were spent the other lives were saved when the killer attempted to re load and was attacked by a by stander or cop etc. I saw a review of six examples of this on TV last night. When the second ammendent was enacted what were we using? No we don't have to go back to that but we sure as hell don't need the crap that is on the streets now. If you need a 20 shell magazine to hunt with you need to stay home. Some states actually limit the number and caliber of shells in a gun depending on the hunting season. There is no limit when some old boy is standing on the street and a gangster goes by and pumps about 16 rounds into him. Or more recently a group of first grade kids with 3 to 11 shots in them.
Citizenn

United States

#6 Dec 22, 2012
Between 2006 and 2010 there were 156 "mass killings", one third of those didnt involve a firearm. There are no figures I can find that show how many of those left were done with assualt type weapons but I bet it is very few. You are deluding yourself if you think banning certain things will stop pyschos from killing. It also isnt an honest arguement trying to use suicides as a justification to ban assualt weapons or high cap mags, those only take one bullet. It isnt fair to ban certain weapons so you can have a false "feel good" feeling because of some deranged lunatic when in reality it will achieve nothing other than driving up the price and the black market. The only thing it will do is take guns out of the hands of law abiding gun likers. Your real goal is to ban guns outright and that will never happen. More people need to be armed, not less. Criminals dont follow the law and the best defense against an armed bad guy is an armed good guy. No law you pass will stop a deranged psychotic murderer. You are willing to trade liberty for a false feeling of temporary security. Ben Franklin advised otherwise and I will take his advice.
#7 Dec 23, 2012
Citizenn wrote:
Between 2006 and 2010 there were 156 "mass killings", one third of those didnt involve a firearm. There are no figures I can find that show how many of those left were done with assualt type weapons but I bet it is very few. You are deluding yourself if you think banning certain things will stop pyschos from killing. It also isnt an honest arguement trying to use suicides as a justification to ban assualt weapons or high cap mags, those only take one bullet. It isnt fair to ban certain weapons so you can have a false "feel good" feeling because of some deranged lunatic when in reality it will achieve nothing other than driving up the price and the black market. The only thing it will do is take guns out of the hands of law abiding gun likers. Your real goal is to ban guns outright and that will never happen. More people need to be armed, not less. Criminals dont follow the law and the best defense against an armed bad guy is an armed good guy. No law you pass will stop a deranged psychotic murderer. You are willing to trade liberty for a false feeling of temporary security. Ben Franklin advised otherwise and I will take his advice.
Just want to ban guns and parts of guns that have no place in our society. Guns that are diesigned or made to be modified for mass killinfs. I don't want to get rid of guns. You can bet that there are going to be some changes and it won't be every man, woman and child walking around with a gun.

Cops on every school?? In Lakwood Washington a couple of years ago there were 4 cops setting in a coffee shop around a table which actually ment there was a cop facing all directions. A gunnman came in and murdered 4 cops before one could get off a shot at him. Do you thing some ritired cop , soldier, fireman or what the heck ever the NRA suggested could protect a school. NO not even one door.
Citizenn

United States

#8 Dec 23, 2012
Drunk drivers kill far more people than guns, so tell me again why booze and cars are legal? Maybe we should ban all cars that go over 5 MPH, that would cut down on the drunk driving fatalities.

Things will change, but actually it will be MORE people carrying guns. Guns sales have skyrocketed since this happened. People like guns, people want guns and just because you dont doesnt mean they should be banned or restricted. Some people like baseball, some people golf, I like to shoot guns. People kill each other with baseball bats every year so why are they still legal? Oh thats right, we only infringe on peoples rights when it come to guns.
The thing that needs changed is the gun show loophole. No one should be able to purchase a gun without a FBI background check. Gun shows are how most criminals get their guns. I fully support closing that loophole but that is it. AN politician that supports a gun ban of any kind will lose his job next election, and that includes Joe Manchin.
#9 Dec 23, 2012

this is a six shooter why is it any different from a semi-auto pistol that holds 10 or 15 rounds? And yes a cop in every school would help and so would every teacher capable of firing a gun carrying one also

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