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hillbilly

Catlettsburg, KY

#9663 Oct 15, 2012
hillbilly n proud wrote:
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There is none so blind as those who will not see and none so ignorant as those that will not learn.
Romney is famous for lying and his flip flops and his etch-a-sketch program. You need to either get back on your meds or get on new ones. You are the kettle calling the pot black but then I think that right there is what the real problem is with some of you ardent Romney supporters. We have a black President and you just can't deal with it.
ROMNEY has CHICKEN eyes.
Obama Flip Flops

Bridgeport, WV

#9664 Oct 15, 2012
Running for President

The very first flip-flop that Obama committed since running for President is actually running for the office in 2008. Obama said in 2004 that he would not run for President in the next election. Based on what has happened in the last 3 years, this is one promise that most Americans would likely prefer he had kept.

Taxes & Spending

Adding Debt & Raising the Debt Ceiling

As a Senator, Obama opposed raising the debt ceiling, and said adding 4 trillion in was ”unpatriotic”. As President, he insisted the debt ceiling be raised and has added substantially more than 4 trillion to the debt.

Bush Tax Cuts

In 2008, Obama said that, as President, he would repeal the Bush tax cuts for the rich. In 2010, he extended those cuts.

Capital Gains Taxes

In 2008, Obama said that, as President, he would raise taxes on capital gains and dividends for higher-income taxpayers. He has not done so.

Raising Taxes

In 2008, Obama pledged that,”no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes. My opponent can’t make that pledge.” However, he has raised taxes on tanning, cigarettes, and those who do not purchase health insurance (regardless of income).
Obama Flip Flops

Bridgeport, WV

#9665 Oct 15, 2012
Senior Income Tax

In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would ”eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year”. He has not done so.

PAYGO

Shortlyafter entering office, Obama signed PAYGO legislation which demanded that all expenditures be paid for unless they are part of an emergency. Democrats in Congress started using the loophole to bypass the legislation almost immediately. Obama touted that a previous extension of unemployment benefits was fully paid for, but later blasted Republicans for not continuing to extend those benefits without paying for them.

Spending Freezes

In 2008, Obama derided spending freezes as ”using a hatchet where you need a scalpel” and ”unfair burden-sharing”. He said that, although it’s ”proposed periodically”, a spending freeze ”doesn’t happen”. In 2010, Obama announced support for a three-year federal spending freeze on discretionary spending not related to national security.

Earmarks

In 2008, Obama’s campaign said that, as President, he would reduce earmarks ”to less than $7.8 billion a year, the level they were at before 1994&#8243;. Earmarks for fiscal year 2010 were more than $15 billion.

Competitive Bidding on Earmarks

In 2008, Obama said that, as President, he would ”ensure that federal contracts over $25,000 are competitively bid”. He has not done so.

Tax Credits for Child Care

In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would increase the tax credits for child care and dependent care, and make such credits refundable. He has not done so.
Obama Flip Flops

Bridgeport, WV

#9666 Oct 15, 2012
Killing NASA Program

“In August 2008, Senator Obama announced, as The Washington Post noted,“a detailed comprehensive space plan that includes $2 billion in new funding to reinvigorate NASA”.

But, as The Washington Post reported in March 2010, President Obama later shattered the dreams of the NASA community with a decision “to kill NASA’s Constellation program, crafted during the Bush administration with an ambitious goal of putting astronauts back on the moon by 2020.”

Foreign Policy

Iraq Timetable

Obama promised to end the war in Iraq and bring the all the troops home in 2009. He later changed his tune to say the withdrawal depends on conditions on the grounds and troops remained in Iraq past 2009.

Iraq Surge

Obama originally opposed the Iraq surge and claimed that extra troops would not do anything to quell sectarian violence. However, after the surge was clearly successful, Obama suggested that everyone knew the surge would decrease violence in Iraq.

Military Action without Congressional Approval

“President Obama has shown a striking lack of consistency with regard to the question of Congressional authorisation and the use of force. In a 2007 interview with The Boston Globe, then Senator Obama declared:


“The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation. In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent. History has shown us time and again, however, that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the Legislative branch. It is always preferable to have the informed consent of Congress prior to any military action.”

However, as President in March 2011, Barack Obama authorized military action against the Libyan regime without consulting Congress, a decision which drew heavy fire on Capitol Hill.”

Dropping Missile Defenses in Poland to appease Russia

“In his Prague speech in April 2009, President Obama pledged to move forward with the Bush-era plans for Third Site missile defences in Poland and the Czech Republic…

Just six months later however, the Obama administration surrendered to Russian demands, and dramatically dropped plans for Third Site.”

There has been speculation that Obama’s recent Hot-Mic comments to Russia’s president about flexibility after the election signal further concessions in this area.
Obama Flip Flops

Bridgeport, WV

#9667 Oct 15, 2012
Israel

While giving a speech in front of the Pro-Israel group AIPAC in 2008, Obama proclaimed that Jerusalem must remain the undivided capital of Israel. However, a few days later his advisers were clarifying that he no longer believes that and the division of Jerusalem is actually an issue to be addressed in negotiations.

Obama repeated the same strategy in 2012 when he promised to “have Israel’s back” on Iran in his 2012 AIPAC speech and backtracked a few days later.

Letting Sudan off the hook for the Darfur genocide

“In 2004, Senator Obama was a prominent supporter of a “humanitarian intervention” to halt state-sponsored mass killing in Darfur, declaring in a speech that ‘we cannot, in good conscience, stand by and let the genocide continue.’ He advocated tough UN sanctions against the brutal regime of Omar Hassan al-Bashir, which “should freeze the assets of the Sudanese government, its leaders and business affiliates; outlaw arms sales and transfers to Sudan; and prohibit the purchase of Chinese oil.”

However, as president, Obama dramatically changed his tune, extending the hand of friendship to Bashir, despite the fact the Sudanese government and its proxy Janjaweed Arab militias had butchered hundreds of thousands of people”.

Abandoning Mubarak in Egypt after calling him a “stalwart ally”

“Big picture foreign policy strategy has not been a forté of this administration, as demonstrated by its inconsistent policy on Egypt and the Middle East. In an interview with the BBC’s Justin Webb in June 2009, when asked if he viewed President Mubarak as an authoritarian ruler, President Obama declared:


No, I tend not to use labels for folks. I haven’t met him; I’ve spoken to him on the phone. He has been a stalwart ally, in many respects, to the United States. He has sustained peace with Israel, which is a very difficult thing to do in that region, but he has never resorted to unnecessary demagoguing of the issue and has tried to maintain that relationship. So I think he has been a force for stability and good in the region.

20 months later, the White House emphatically called for Mubarak to go”.

Cuba Embargo

Obama opposed the embargo in 2004, but later supported it when speaking in front of a Cuban audience during his run for president. It is still in place today.

Recognizing Armenian Genocide

In 2008, Obama said he would recognize the Armenian Genocide once he is president. He has not done so.

Meeting with Iran Without Preconditions

Obama tried to distance himself from the position that he would meet with Iran without preconditions during the 2008 campaign by claiming there would be “preparations”, before returning to his original position.

Iran Threat

Obama has never had a consistent position on Iran, but one particular shift over a two day period in 2008 is the greatest example of Obama’s waffling on the issue. On one day Obama suggested that Iran does not “pose a serious threat to us”, but the very next day he was describing Iran as a “grave threat”.

Designating Revolutionary Guard as a Terrorist Group

In September 2007, Obama voted against the Kyl-Lieberman bill which would designate the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps as a terrorist organization. Obama attacked Hillary Clinton for voting for the bill, but later claimed that he supported labeling the Iran Revolutionary Guard Corps a terrorist organization. Obama explained his vote against the bill using a variety of different reasons at different times.

Obama Flip Flops

Bridgeport, WV

#9668 Oct 15, 2012
NAFTA

During the 2008 campaign Obama was very critical of NAFTA, but later referred to his own rhetoric as “overheated and amplified.”

Meeting with Chavez

While running for office, Obama stated that he would meet with Hugo Chavez and discuss his support for FARC on one day and then said governments supporting FARC should be isolated the next.

Annual “State of the World” Address

In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would ”give an annual State of the World address to the American people in which I lay out our national security policy”. He has never given any such address.

Promised to Improve America’s Image

A key foreign policy theme of the Obama presidential election campaign was the notion that President Bush had damaged America’s image on the world stage, with his supposedly ‘cowboy’ policies. In the words of a campaign document,“Barack Obama and Joe Biden will restore America’s standing in the world by providing a new American leadership to meet the challenges of a new century”.

As President, however, Obama has done exactly the opposite, insulting key allies such as Great Britain, Israel and Poland, projecting weak leadership, and undermining the standing of the United States as the world’s only superpower. As I’ve noted before:


“No American president in modern times has invested less effort in maintaining US alliances than Barack Obama. Whether it is siding with Marxists in Honduras against pro-American forces, condemning Israel, throwing the Poles and Czechs under the bus, or trashing the Anglo-American Special Relationship, the Obama administration has gone out of its way to kick its allies in the teeth while kowtowing to America’s enemies. For a president who boasted in his election campaign of restoring America’s “standing” in the world, Obama has done a spectacularly bad job of preserving friendships with Washington’s closest friends.”

Energy

Gas Prices

Obama, along with many other leading Democrats, blamed George W. Bush for high gas prices when he was President. Yet now that prices have reached near record highs under his administration, Obama is claiming that he has no control of those prices. Furthermore, Obama has previously said he supports a gradual shift to higher gas prices, but now laughs off the claim that he is rooting for higher prices to reduce dependency.

Cap and Trade

In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would “set a hard cap on all carbon emissions at a level that scientists say is necessary to curb global warming – an 80% reduction by 2050&#8243;. No cap and trade legislation has been passed.
Obama Flip Flops

Bridgeport, WV

#9669 Oct 15, 2012
Selling Oil from Strategic Reserve

In July 2007, Obama rejected selling oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, which he said should be “reserved for a genuine emergency.” A month later, Obama said,“We should sell 70 million barrels of oil from our Strategic Petroleum Reserve for less expensive crude, which in the past has lowered gas prices within two weeks”, even though gas prices were higher in July 2007 than in August 2007.

Keystone XL

Obama touted the possibility of a pipeline during his 2008 campaign, but rejected rapid approval of the Keystone XL pipeline this year.

Nuclear Power

Obama told a group of Democratic Governors in June of 2008 that he was open to expanding nuclear power after having previously opposed it.

Immigration & Healthcare

Immigration Reform

In 2008, Obama said that, as President, he would introduce comprehensive immigration reform legislation in his first year. He did not. He has now made the same promise for the first year of his second term.

Health Care Mandate

Obama was against the individual mandate before it became a central part of his signature legislation.

Single Payer Health Care

In 2003, as an Illinois state senator, Obama said,”I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care program.” In 2009, Obama said,”I have not said that I was a single-payer supporter.”

Keeping Your Insurance

Leading up to the passage of Obamacare, Obama promised Americans that they would be able to keep their current insurance plan if they like it. Further analysis by the CBO has revealed that Obamacare would cause many seniors to have their Medicare Advantage coverage cut in half and millions to be dropped from their employer-provided insurance.

Cost of Obamacare

Obama promised that he would “not sign [a healthcare bill] if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future, period.” Yet, a new analysis determines that his bill will add quite a bit to future deficits.

Insuring All Americans

Obama outlined three goals for his health care legislation. Lowering the cost curve and insuring all Americans were two of the three. It has now been determined that Obamacare will add to the deficit and 25 million Americans will remain uninsured.

Reconciliation

In 2010, Obama signed into law health care reform that was passed via reconciliation, contrary to his 2007 insistence that health care reform should not be passed by a bare ”50 plus one majority”, and his 2005 rejection of the ‘nuclear option’ in the Senate.
Obama Flip Flops

Bridgeport, WV

#9670 Oct 15, 2012
Televising Healthcare Negotiations

In 2008, Obama said, when it came to crafting health care reform,”we’ll have the negotiations televised on C-SPAN.” Many crucial negotiations pertaining to health care reform were not televised.

Taxing Health Benefits

In 2008, Obama criticized his presidential opponent, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), saying,”for the first time in American history, he wants to tax your health benefits.” In 2010, Obama signed into law health care reform legislation that puts a 40% tax on some health insurance policies.

Importing Cheaper Drugs

In 2008, Obama said that, as President, his health care reform would allow Americans to import cheaper prescription drugs. The health care reform he signed into law does not allow this.

Cracking Down on Employers of Illegal Immigrants

Obama opposed cracking down on employers of illegal immigrants before running for President, but supported it during his run.

Defense

Closing Guantanamo

In 2008, Obama’s campaign said that, as president, he would ”close the detention facility at Guantanamo.” And, in January 2009, Obama signed an executive order calling for the Guantanamo Bay facility to be closed. It remains open.

Military tribunals for terror suspects

In the 2008 campaign, Obama said that, as president, he would end the use of military commissions with respect to terrorism suspects and detainees. However, they are still in use.

Rendition of Terror Suspects

“In a 2007 Foreign Affairs article, Senator Obama gave a strong indication that he would end the Bush administration practice of rendition of terror suspects:


“To build a better, freer world, we must first behave in ways that reflect the decency and aspirations of the American people… This means ending the practices of shipping away prisoners in the dead of night to be tortured in far-off countries, of detaining thousands without charge or trial, of maintaining a network of secret prisons to jail people beyond the reach of the law.”

But, as The New York Times reported in August 2009, the Obama administration’s Interrogation and Transfer Task Force announced that it would retain renditions, but with what The Times referred to as “more oversight.’”

Photos of Detainee Abuse

In April 2009, the Obama administration said it planned to release photos depicting abuse of detainees being held by the U.S. overseas. The administration then reversed its decision, and said it would resist court rulings demanding the release of such photos.

Patriot Act

Obama said he would repeal the Patriot Act in a 2003 questionnaire, but later voted to renew it in the Senate.

FISA

In 2007, Obama pleased liberal advocates by promising to filibuster any bill that gave amnesty to telecommunication companies that were assisting authorities with wiretapping activities. Obama voted for a bill that did just that in July of 2008.

Killing Osama Bin Laden

Obama highlighted the importance of killing Osama Bin Laden while running for president and after OBL was killed in Pakistan, but made the claim that it was no longer “essential” when he first got into office. Of course took all the credit when he was killed.
Obama Flip Flops

Bridgeport, WV

#9671 Oct 15, 2012
Other

Public Financing

Obama promised to seek public financing for his presidential campaign in 2008, but ended up rejecting public financing.

2008 Debates

In May 2008, Obama said he would meet McCain ”anywhere, anytime to have a debate about our respective policies in Iraq, Iran, the Middle East or around the world”. But he rejected town hall debates proposed by the McCain campaign.

Voting Along Party Lines

In 2010, Obama decried Senate candidate Scott Brown’s (R-MA) record of voting with Republicans 96% of the time, saying it showed Brown was not ”independent.” When he himself was in the Senate, Obama voted with Democrats 96% of the time.

Minimum Wage

In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would raise the minimum wage to $9.50 an hour, up from the current $7.25 an hour. It has not been raised.

Civility

“After the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) and several others (six people were killed), Obama said,”at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who happen to think differently than we do — it’s important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we’re talking with each other in a way that heals, not in a way that wounds”. Yet Obama has frequently described Republicans as Social Darwinists. He has said that the difference between Democrats and Republicans is that Democrats ”have a sense of neighborliness and a sense of community, and we are willing to look out for one another and help people who are vulnerable and help people who are down on their luck”.



In his book,“The Audacity of Hope”, Obama lamented the description of abortion opponents as”right-wing ideologues who want to take away a woman’s right to choose”. Obama said the”standard boilerplate” rhetoric had been written — not by himself — but by someone on his U.S. Senate campaign staff, and he had the ”offending words” removed from his website. In recent months, however, Obama has described Republican opponents of abortion as seeking to ”turn back the clock”,”prevent millions of women from getting basic health care that they desperately need”, and ”stirring up fights over a woman’s right to make her own health care choices”.



Despite advocating civility and civil debate, Obama has appointed Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) to chair the DNC, even though she has frequently resorted to name-calling (e.g., here, here,here, here, and here). Rather than chastising her for her incivility, Obama has praised her.



After James “Jimmy” Hoffa, Jr., launched this invective at the Tea Party –”President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. Let’s take these son of a bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong”– during an event at which Obama was about to speak, the Obama administration refused to denounce Hoffa’s offensive (and violent) rhetoric, saying they would not act as the ”speech police”. Days later, Obama’s presidential campaign launched AttackWatch.com , a website dedicated to policing the speech of Republicans and denouncing them when they say unfair things about Obama.”
Obama Flip Flops

Bridgeport, WV

#9672 Oct 15, 2012
Questioning Patriotism

“In 2008, Obama said,”I will never question the patriotism of others in this campaign. And I will not stand idly by when I hear others question mine.[...] Patriotism can never be defined as loyalty to any particular leader, or government, or policy.” However, in that same year, he called the Bush administration’s decision to raise the debt ceiling ”unpatriotic”.[Obama] has accused Republicans of putting party before country, and he has stood idly by as others in his party — e.g., Rep. Linda Sanchez (D-CA)— have said Republicans are ”not patriotic.’”

Presidential Commissions

In 2008, Obama derided presidential commissions as ”Washington-speak” for ”we’ll get back to you later.” In 2010, he appointed the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform to look for solutions to the debt crisis. The commission did not have the votes to submit their plan to Congress, and Obama has not championed their proposals.

Furthermore, in 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would create a national commission to look at whether programs such as Social Security Disability Insurance, Supplementary Security Income, Medicare and Medicaid create an incentive for people to not work. He has yet to do so.

Public Posting of Bills Before Passage

In 2008, Obama’s campaign said that, as president, he would ”not sign any nonemergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House Web site for five days”. He has since signed non-emergency bills without the five-day public review period.

White House Fleet

In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would convert the White House fleet of cars to plug-in hybrid and electric vehicles. He has not done so.

Gay Marriage

Obama’s position on this issue is constantly changing. President Obama openly opposed gay marriage during the 2008 election. Obama also supported states deciding the issue at that point. However, later on Obama opposed California’s ban on gay marriage and has said his views on the issue are “evolving.”

Super PACs

Obama opposed use and coordination of Super PAC’s following the Citizens United decisions, but recently changed course and signaled approval of Super PAC’s that are supporting his re-election effort
Obama Flip Flops

Bridgeport, WV

#9673 Oct 15, 2012
D.C. Handgun Ban

Obama supported the D.C. hand gun ban before agreeing with the Supreme Court decision that it “went beyond constitutional limits.”

School Voucher Program

Barack Obama suggested he would support a D.C. voucher program before opposing it and eventually cutting funding to it.

Decriminalizing Marijuana

Obama told students in 2004 he supported decriminalizing marijuana usage, but opposed it during his run for president. He has yet to take significant steps to decriminalize marijuana as President.

Union Support

“In January [2008], the Obama campaign described union contributions to the campaigns of Clinton and John Edwards as ‘special interest’ money. Obama changed his tune as he began gathering his own union endorsements. Since gaining his own union support, Obama refers respectfully to unions as the representatives of ‘working people’ and says he is ‘thrilled’ by their support.”

Abortion

Obama disagreed with the Supreme Court decision upholding a ban on partial birth abortion and had a 100% NARAL rating in 2006, 2007 and 2008, but while being interviewed by a Christian magazine Obama said that “mental distress” should not count as a “health of the mother” exception to a ban.

Wearing a U.S. Flag Pin

Obama refused to wear a flag pin during the 2008 primaries because he considered them a substitute for “true patriotism”, but he started wearing it again once the primaries were over.

Welfare Reform

Obama called Bill Clinton’s 1996 Welfare Reform legislation “disturbing” at the time it was passed, but he celebrated the reforms and what they resulted in once running for president.

Jeremiah Wright

When videos of the controversial remarks of Obama’s long time pastor and mentor, Reverand Jeremiah Wright, first appeared, the President said he can no more disown Wright than his white grandmother. Once it became even clearer that Wright was an extreme individual, Obama did disown and disassociate himself from Wright.

Accepting Donations from Lobbyists

Obama had a campaign pledge to not accept political contributions from lobbyists, yet Obama accepted money from registered airline lobbyist Ron Klein.

No Lobbyists

President Obama promised and made a campaign issue of not have a revolving door of lobbyists joining and leaving his administration, but has consistently violated this pledge by providing waivers to circumvent this promise.
JCK

Bridgeport, WV

#9674 Oct 15, 2012
Of course, when you don't agree with a black man your racist. What are you then? What is someone who disagrees with a white man called? "Chicken Eyes" thanks for educating us.
hillbilly wrote:
<quoted text> ROMNEY has CHICKEN eyes.
Just curious

United States

#9675 Oct 15, 2012
I'm not as long winded nor do I have the time that you obviously do to spend on here. I just have a few questions.

Who is making money off sending our american jobs overseas?

Who has fired american workers and eliminated thousands of american jobs?

Who keeps his millions of dollars in out of country banks?

Who has millions of dollars invested in China?

Due to his actions, who should be held responsible for the struggles these displaced workers are now dealing with?
Farmgirl

Rupert, WV

#9676 Oct 15, 2012
Obama Flip Flops! Way to go. I sure did not mind reading it all in one condensed, truthful, factual place. Glad you took the time to enlighten those that probably don't read that much in a month. I appreciated all the information in one condensed format. I read nothing to suspect you of racism. I think you did a great job.. You did what I would not take the time on this formum to even try. Love it!! Always hard to fight facts you don't want to believe unless with degrogatory remarks.
when

Craigsville, WV

#9677 Oct 15, 2012
where
JCK

Bridgeport, WV

#9678 Oct 15, 2012
Oh how misleading your questions are.
Many people holler and wail about Bain Capital costing people their jobs. Keep in mind, Bain founded and funded several companies, which created and saved jobs. When they weren't doing this, they were acquiring companies. Once acquired, some of these companies would see layoffs as a means to cut operating costs and become profitable.

Once profitable, these companies were either sold or nurtured further along and continued to grow. 90% of the time or more, these companies hired more people than were originally laid off. Very few companies that were funded, acquired or founded by Bain were not successful. A few went bankrupt. Interestingly, all of them went bankrupt after Romney was no longer leading Bain Capital. He had the loss of his parents in the mid-90's as well as illness to his wife. After that he went and led the olympic games. You could argue that had he stayed those companies may not have gone under and those employees may have kept their jobs. Different discussion.

The truth is, if you look at the net job creation or job loss, Bain Capital directly created thousands if not millions of jobs. You might be surprised to hear about some of the companies they helped with funding. You might be surprised to know about some of the companies they founded. You might be surprised to know about some of the companies they once acquired and later sold. Of course, the Left and anti-Romney Republicans want you to focus on those few companies that went bankrupt or those that had jobs cut after acquisition. Keep in mind, they cut those jobs to make the company profitable again so that it could grow. Many of them did grow and hire people again. If you look at just the point of acquisition that might look bad. If you take a holistic look at what Romney and Bain accomplished, they were responsible for the growth of hundreds of very successful companies who have hired thousands if not millions of people collectively.

Overseas misconceptions were addressed during debate.

My company is laying off 30 employees next year. Who can I blame for that?
Just curious wrote:
I'm not as long winded nor do I have the time that you obviously do to spend on here. I just have a few questions.
Who is making money off sending our american jobs overseas?
Who has fired american workers and eliminated thousands of american jobs?
Who keeps his millions of dollars in out of country banks?
Who has millions of dollars invested in China?
Due to his actions, who should be held responsible for the struggles these displaced workers are now dealing with?
Angel

Bronx, NY

#9679 Oct 15, 2012
Farmgirl wrote:
<quoted text> Basically the incidence of suicide is directly related to the long your legs to an explosive device or
they cross borders back and forth from Syria and
Iraq? These people thrive on unrest and
bloodshed. It is historically proven. I'm most sorry
we ever became involved, but remember Who
demolished the World Trade Center. Is it so
easy in a comfortable lifestyle to forget about
them. I think that people who feel so strongly that
USA is such a horrible country, should packr
ups by the Cabinets at this point, I'm not sure
who knows what is going on. I don't like either
candidate, but to delay decisions about situations
like Libya and our troops, Medicare and so many
other items, until after election is repugnant to
me. AND please don't forget they were
murdering entire villages of their own people
before we ever stepped on their soil. Have you
forgotten the torture and atrocities committed by
Hussein, his sons and his thugs? Maybe you are
even one of those people that thinks the
Holcaust never even happpened. It is not all
black and white. I hope I misunderstood your
inference that our soldiers are killing themselves
because of the things they are doing while
deployed. If that is in fact your opinion, you sure
don't knowmany soldiers.
Okay, this post will be a long one, I hope you
read it all.
I do suggest that soldiers are killing themselves For what they've seen and done overseas. You can get on several support sites and read their stories. It is unjust for u aswell to make assumptions. You really think men are committing suicide because they miss their families and mess up relationships? Yeah...right. That kind of stuff happens to ppl all the time and they are able to live with themselves. You r so blind and in denial about the harshness of the subject. If ununderstand basic psychology, you will realize a soldiers situation.
And I wish almost more than anything that I could move out of this country. I am not however free to do so. Capitalism has me trapped into financial slavery.
Our government controls USA foreign policy. Duh. Have u heard of the pentagon? You're even saying yourself that there are coverups, Wikileaks are uncovering them!!!!!!! Look up who Bradley manning is. He is a real American hero.
Do not dare insult Julian assange or wiki leaks! It's one of the most important things to happen in our lifetime. It's real journalism, Julian assange should be given the Nobel peace prize. Wikileaks allow us to see governnt documents and real footage of the stuff that is hidden from us. How is it like a gossip train??? Please explain further?! Jerk. I reiterate, search Bradley manning.
Next, u say that Hussein was commuting acts of murder and torture against his citizens so somehow that gives our military the right to do it,
that's stupid. Murder is always wrong. Just
because we claim that it's in the name of
patriotism, freedom, and democracy does not
make it okay.
Last, I don't understand how my post would leave u to believe that I am a holocaust denier.
More like the exact opposite. I've been to
auschwitz, I've seen the remnants of it, that
experiencer gas made me extra sensitive to
those people who are being harmed and treated
in such an inhumane way.
The reason this war has gone on so long is
because of ppl like you, who are in denial about
how disturbing this war is. If you would wake up
then maybe the American ppl could gather
enough strength to demand our leaders to stop it. Someday the truth will surface and u will feel very foolish.
Farmgirl

Rupert, WV

#9680 Oct 15, 2012
I hope you find a way to leave my country. You omitted the comments of long deployments, maiming, body disfigurement, brain injuries and the list is endless. I have served "my" country. My son has served in this war. I would like it to be over tomorrow, but unfortunately all wars have not been only political. You have the right to your opinion on a public forum such as this because of those that served and sacrificed. I'm sure if finances is your only hold back from leaving, many AMERICANS would be happy to start a fund to get you out of our country.
Farmgirl

Rupert, WV

#9681 Oct 15, 2012
Oh, I did forget to tell you I have visited Auschwitz and have spent probably more hours than you've been alive supporting and counseling those in the exact situations you think you know so much about. Granted, I read your entire reply. I think you are an ungrateful person that does not deserve to call themselves an American and I hope you sure find a way to leave our country and FAST! Don't bother to reply to my comment as you could have absolutely nothing I would want to hear. Have a good life somewhere else.
Q

Williamson, WV

#9682 Oct 16, 2012
call me a traitor but wrote:
I'm glad my mom isn't around to see this but I'm voting Republican this year for the first time in my life. I'm fed the @#$% up with present Democrats and the way things are going.
I THOUGHT OBAMA WAS GONNA FIX ALL THIS MESS' I fell for it .......last time..... I figured give him a chance. Not again.
Just my opinion
U r probably to young to remember Reagan as president. U think its bad now. If Romney gets elected their will b a whole lot more miners out of work. I thought the same as you. I voted for Ronald Reagan for President & I ended up in the Army. Things got a whole lot worse around here. Mark my words. I want u to remember what Romney does for WV. We have been mining record amounts of coal to spite Obama. I hope u r one of the 53% of Americans that Romney thinks will do well under his administration. I'm telling u now it will be 1% of the people & they r filthy rich already.

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