Are Allegheny County Police Corrupt?

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yes yes yes

Covington, VA

#2 Jul 6, 2011
HELL yes they are corrupt and everyone that lives or has lived in Alleghany county knows this.You should look into some of the things that have happened in this town in years past.
Prosecution

Washington, DC

#3 Jul 6, 2011
yes yes yes wrote:
HELL yes they are corrupt and everyone that lives or has lived in Alleghany county knows this.You should look into some of the things that have happened in this town in years past.
Thank you. I'm specifically looking for information on why Joyce Craft Sizemore was not charged in the brutal beating of her husband, Gerald Sizemore. This incident occurred two weeks ago at the Moose Lodge.
birdie birdie

Covington, VA

#4 Jul 6, 2011
She's probably a narc, cops protect their own kind.
alleghany corrupted cops

Lyndhurst, VA

#5 Jul 7, 2011
they are unstoppable they do what they want when they want and nothing or anyone can or will do anything about not the government or dcjs been that route and all I was told you have to take it up with the head sheriff and of course he protects his own so it's a endless route,just pray you or a loved one doesn't get arrested the innocent pay and the guilty are set free
yes yes yes

Covington, VA

#6 Jul 7, 2011
No they are not unstoppable they need to be reported to the right people.I am sure the cops in franklin county thought they were unstoppable too.
yes yes yes

Covington, VA

#7 Jul 7, 2011
I am sure the ones in henery county thought they were unstoppable too.
Penal System

Covington, VA

#8 Jul 8, 2011
Especially that Balser dude!
yes yes yes

Covington, VA

#9 Jul 8, 2011
Barry who is like 30 years old??? I went to school with him he always seemed like a nice guy.

“Resist or Die”

Since: Feb 10

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#10 Jul 8, 2011
They are not "unstoppable" or all-powerful. They also aren't uber-malevolent or evil. They are just people-like anybody else.

They are just as noble or flawed, as helpful or biased as any human being. They are not automatically raised above the average citizen morally or legally by boon of their uniform.

If you believe the officers are not conducting themselves appropriately, are using the authority we as citizens have granted them improperly, or are "corrupt" then it is your right to bring accountability into the equation. Many citizens have done so in their communities by instituting a "CopWatch". CopWatch is a citizen driven initiative to ensure accountability among our peace officers. Most, if not all, police corruption is the result of citizens allowing police the curtsy of unquestioned authority. That's right, the Curtsy. The police are public servants, payed by citizens for citizens. We do have a right to question police actions and orders, even if they do not involve us, personally. We also have a right to watch, photograph and video record the police. This is the basis of Cop Watch. To bring accountability to our police through citizen involvement, and video documentation. By activily watching a police officer interacting with other citizen, we can provide a source of accountability. By recording a police officer during interaction with a cictzen, they are made aware of their accountability to others for their actions.

Here's a video excerpt from the documentary "These Streets Are Watching" explaining the CopWatch movement:
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I'm guessing most people here are just talkers and not doers. That's fine. But, each person who complains about the police has the power and right to change the situation. If you do not utilize that right or power then it can only be assumed you are satisfied with the police force, or are not so dissatisfied as to actually act. If that is the case-then they can't be doing such a bad job.
looking

Covington, VA

#11 Jul 8, 2011
FairyGothMother wrote:
They are not "unstoppable" or all-powerful. They also aren't uber-malevolent or evil. They are just people-like anybody else.
They are just as noble or flawed, as helpful or biased as any human being. They are not automatically raised above the average citizen morally or legally by boon of their uniform.
If you believe the officers are not conducting themselves appropriately, are using the authority we as citizens have granted them improperly, or are "corrupt" then it is your right to bring accountability into the equation. Many citizens have done so in their communities by instituting a "CopWatch". CopWatch is a citizen driven initiative to ensure accountability among our peace officers. Most, if not all, police corruption is the result of citizens allowing police the curtsy of unquestioned authority. That's right, the Curtsy. The police are public servants, payed by citizens for citizens. We do have a right to question police actions and orders, even if they do not involve us, personally. We also have a right to watch, photograph and video record the police. This is the basis of Cop Watch. To bring accountability to our police through citizen involvement, and video documentation. By activily watching a police officer interacting with other citizen, we can provide a source of accountability. By recording a police officer during interaction with a cictzen, they are made aware of their accountability to others for their actions.
Here's a video excerpt from the documentary "These Streets Are Watching" explaining the CopWatch movement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =L8sgnd4uTrsXX&feature=rel ated
I'm guessing most people here are just talkers and not doers. That's fine. But, each person who complains about the police has the power and right to change the situation. If you do not utilize that right or power then it can only be assumed you are satisfied with the police force, or are not so dissatisfied as to actually act. If that is the case-then they can't be doing such a bad job.
IT ISN'T THE FACT THAT PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO STAND UP FOR OUR RIGHTS THE FACT IS WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY THAT IS HELL BENT ON REVENGE START GIVING YOUR COMPLAINTS WITH OUT HIDING YOUR IDENITY AND I PROMISE YOU THIS YOUR LIFE WILL BE A LIVING HELL YOUR FAMILY WILL BE A TARGET DAY AND NIGHT!YOU WILL GET THE RATH OF ALL THE CROOKED COPS AROUND OUR AREA.

“Resist or Die”

Since: Feb 10

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#12 Jul 8, 2011
looking wrote:
<quoted text>IT ISN'T THE FACT THAT PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO STAND UP FOR OUR RIGHTS THE FACT IS WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY THAT IS HELL BENT ON REVENGE START GIVING YOUR COMPLAINTS WITH OUT HIDING YOUR IDENITY AND I PROMISE YOU THIS YOUR LIFE WILL BE A LIVING HELL YOUR FAMILY WILL BE A TARGET DAY AND NIGHT!YOU WILL GET THE RATH OF ALL THE CROOKED COPS AROUND OUR AREA.
Well, I wasn't actually complaining...Just offering an opinion on and one possible solution too police accountability. And, well really, I'm the only person who posted from a registered account with a clearly displayed picture of myself, so I'm not really "hiding".

What you say about becoming a target may be true. I do not debate that is a possibility.

That is one of the concerns addressed by a CopWatch Group. It's just like a neighborhood watch program. One person, alone, trying to confront criminals, drug dealers, gangs, etc. in their neighborhood would be faced with retaliation. So, neighborhood watches formed to confront these dangerous urban elements as a group.

The same theory applies to CopWatch. One person could face retaliation, or become a target of a corrupt police force. But a group of citizens, fully informed and educated on their rights, keeping a written and video record of police actions presents a united front and effective deterrent to police corruption.

While the police may be able to intimidate/target one person and their family, making their life hellish, they can not intimidate a group of people-and their families-and their friends- as easily. As the number of witnesses, recordings and complainants increases, police power decreases.

Many, maybe even most, citizens do not understand police powers, their rights when speaking or interacting with the police, or the regulations governing police behavior. By forming a CopWatch group, you not only create a way to document police actions but also provide a forum to inform and educate citizens. By educating citizen you ensure that more people are aware and utilizing their rights. A police department confronted with an informed and involved community can not act against individuals for the purpose of intimidation without drawing attention from the community.

But, dude, really....I'm not saying anyone has to do anything. I was just providing information on how other communities have actively confronted police corruption on a message board addressing police corruption. It's not impossible. People have and are doing it.
looking

Covington, VA

#13 Jul 8, 2011
FairyGothMother wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, I wasn't actually complaining...Just offering an opinion on and one possible solution too police accountability. And, well really, I'm the only person who posted from a registered account with a clearly displayed picture of myself, so I'm not really "hiding".
What you say about becoming a target may be true. I do not debate that is a possibility.
That is one of the concerns addressed by a CopWatch Group. It's just like a neighborhood watch program. One person, alone, trying to confront criminals, drug dealers, gangs, etc. in their neighborhood would be faced with retaliation. So, neighborhood watches formed to confront these dangerous urban elements as a group.
The same theory applies to CopWatch. One person could face retaliation, or become a target of a corrupt police force. But a group of citizens, fully informed and educated on their rights, keeping a written and video record of police actions presents a united front and effective deterrent to police corruption.
While the police may be able to intimidate/target one person and their family, making their life hellish, they can not intimidate a group of people-and their families-and their friends- as easily. As the number of witnesses, recordings and complainants increases, police power decreases.
Many, maybe even most, citizens do not understand police powers, their rights when speaking or interacting with the police, or the regulations governing police behavior. By forming a CopWatch group, you not only create a way to document police actions but also provide a forum to inform and educate citizens. By educating citizen you ensure that more people are aware and utilizing their rights. A police department confronted with an informed and involved community can not act against individuals for the purpose of intimidation without drawing attention from the community.
But, dude, really....I'm not saying anyone has to do anything. I was just providing information on how other communities have actively confronted police corruption on a message board addressing police corruption. It's not impossible. People have and are doing it.
PLEASE READ MY POST MORE CAREFULLY NO WHERE DID I STATE YOU WERE HIDING WHOM YOU WERE!I STATED THAT IF ANY ONE LET THEIR IDENITY BE KNOWN THEY WOULD BE UP THE RIVER SO TO SPEAK WE ALL WANT JUSTICE BUT LETS BE HONEST ALOT OF HAVE FAMILIES AND IF WE PROTEST WE COULD GO TO JAIL THE POLICE COULD ARREST YOU FOR FARTING AND GET AWAY WITH IT FRANKLY SPEAKING FAMILY LIFE AND SAFETY IS A MUST AND SPEAKING YOUR MIND OPENLY MAY GET YOU IN SOME HOT WATER!BY THE WAY IAM A FEMALE NOT A DUDE*******

“Resist or Die”

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#14 Jul 8, 2011
looking wrote:
<quoted text>PLEASE READ MY POST MORE CAREFULLY NO WHERE DID I STATE YOU WERE HIDING WHOM YOU WERE!I STATED THAT IF ANY ONE LET THEIR IDENITY BE KNOWN THEY WOULD BE UP THE RIVER SO TO SPEAK WE ALL WANT JUSTICE BUT LETS BE HONEST ALOT OF HAVE FAMILIES AND IF WE PROTEST WE COULD GO TO JAIL THE POLICE COULD ARREST YOU FOR FARTING AND GET AWAY WITH IT FRANKLY SPEAKING FAMILY LIFE AND SAFETY IS A MUST AND SPEAKING YOUR MIND OPENLY MAY GET YOU IN SOME HOT WATER!BY THE WAY IAM A FEMALE NOT A DUDE*******
I'm not sure why your posting in all caps? I generally regard all caps as "shouting", excitement, or exclamation.

I understand your concerns. Your afraid of the police. This fear prevents you from acting. That's OK. I'm not forcing you to act. I'm just starting a dialogue about our ability to act.

I do not personally have experience with the local police departments, except for one instance when I was assisted by the Sheriff while my car was broke-down. So, I have no reason to complain or actively protest. However, if I was aware a a citizens group such as CopWatch being formed in the area, I would not hesitate to participate. I am not intimidated by the idea of confronting the police if they act in a manner unbecoming an officer. I just have not seen or encountered such behavior myself, so have not had reason to act. Being afraid to act is the only reason you are not freed from fear by your own actions. That is not condemnation, but just good advice.

Even if you feel to intimidated to participate as an active protester, that does not mean you can not work behind the scenes as an organizer and contact for others who are willing to directly act. Having support from people not directly involved is a vital part of any direct action.

Any way, I'm not condemning anyone who doesn't act, I'm just pointing out that you Can. As a veteran, there really is nothing more depressing then hearing a US citizen state that they are too afraid to assert and fight for their rights. It prompts the part of me that fought for those rights to encourage others to act. That's just my own nature.

Everything Is OK, though. We're just talking, and these are just idea's. I have no problem with other people living as they see fit, and do not claim I am an authority or even that I am "right".I am just offering one opinion, my own.
who cares

Covington, VA

#16 Jul 12, 2011
Washington DC wrote:
I started this post because I was told that a certain Officer in Covington could not be trusted to investigate a certain crime due to his personal relationship with a witness to the crime. In other words, the Officer would not take at face value the information provided to him by a witness to a crime because the witness had been married to the Officer's relative, and the marriage ended badly.
I'm not sure how what happened between two people in a marriage is in any way connected to a crime that occurred in Covington that has nothing whatsoever to do with the marriage, except that one of the people in the marriage (now divorced) saw the crime occur.
Also, FairyGothMother is the only person on the Covington Topix blog who can write a gramatically correct sentence. Thank you GothMother.
...What do you expect?? Alleghany county is full of idiots.Watch some of the fat arrogant cops come out of local restaurants it is so DISGUSTING.
who ya going to call

Charlottesville, VA

#17 Jul 12, 2011
~~~ghostbusters~~~
outcast99

Covington, VA

#18 Jul 13, 2011
Allegheny's whole justice system is flawed,corrupt and illegal. The cops take bribes to look the other way while drug deals good down. So the hard working people get over priced tickets for minor offenses. The cops here are cowardly,money greedy bullies. The whole common welth idea is another version communism.
really

Covington, VA

#19 Jul 13, 2011
outcast99 wrote:
Allegheny's whole justice system is flawed,corrupt and illegal. The cops take bribes to look the other way while drug deals good down. So the hard working people get over priced tickets for minor offenses. The cops here are cowardly,money greedy bullies. The whole common welth idea is another version communism.
....I could not agree with you more.Many people know this type of thing is happening in this area.I wonder when it is going to be stopped?
Eric Bogar

Covington, VA

#20 Dec 17, 2011
They're so corrupt that we now have a Copwatch for them... http://www.facebook.com/groups/AlleghanyCount...
reader of this

Covington, VA

#21 Dec 20, 2011
alleghany county cops suck along with the DA the sizemore son only got 2 months imagine that the wife sold his guns to get her son outta jail while he was in the hospital in critical condition hope he aint stayin with her ass
peoplethesedays

Covington, VA

#22 Dec 29, 2011
They are not sons of gerlad they are low life peices of shit sons of that stupid B**** Joyce and the word around town is that they are still togther because he dont remember anything Screw them boys and joyce karma will come around soon enough

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