Fight to legalize gay marriage in Rho...

Fight to legalize gay marriage in Rhode Island

There are 525 comments on the New York Daily News story from Jan 15, 2013, titled Fight to legalize gay marriage in Rhode Island. In it, New York Daily News reports that:

Supporters of same-sex marriage rights plan to assemble at the Rhode Island Statehouse to urge lawmakers to make the smallest state the 10th to allow gay and lesbian couples to wed - and the last to do so in New England.

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“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#390 Jan 22, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
<quoted text>WHAT?????? They didn't investigate who was going to tell the child about menses!!!!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!
Good thing when you had yours, your mom was around to calm you down. All that screaming like a little girl scared Old Mrs. Jones.

“Vita e' Bella.”

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#391 Jan 22, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
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Why does the State allow single parent adoption?
Oh please tell us oh great wise Jane of Do Do? Could it be to provide a child with a parent, because his/her biological parents are unable to, or unwilling to, raise him/her? Just a shot in the dark. Your kids must think you're just the peachy keen....Jane Do Do who wears a pink tutu

“Vita e' Bella.”

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#392 Jan 22, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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But according to your logic a single woman should only be able to adopt a female child and a single man should only be able to adopt a male child in order to provide the necessary "plumbing" guidance.......
Nice try Sheeeeepie.....hmmmm....I suppose that would prevent a single person from adopting a pair of opposite sex twins. ;)
Btw, when I got my first boner I asked my mom about it, because like most dads, mine didn't talk about that kind of stuff. It was another classic "go ask your mother" moment.
Atta boy! See...Good ole Mom....she's the best! Ahhh those were the moments...."Dad...where do babies come from?"....Dad puts down the paper, or his hammer, or turns from the game on TV for just a brief moment and says, "Go ask your mother". Now let's see what were the "Dad moments"...those times when Mom would say, "Go ask your father"?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#393 Jan 22, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Nice try Sheeeeepie.....hmmmm....I suppose that would prevent a single person from adopting a pair of opposite sex twins. ;)
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Atta boy! See...Good ole Mom....she's the best! Ahhh those were the moments...."Dad...where do babies come from?"....Dad puts down the paper, or his hammer, or turns from the game on TV for just a brief moment and says, "Go ask your mother". Now let's see what were the "Dad moments"...those times when Mom would say, "Go ask your father"?
Which only proves SOME parents should make sure they one of each gender in their marriage. If you are one of those, that is certainly your choice.

The rest of us do just fine having two of the same gender in our marriages, and our kids do just fine.

Again, if YOU are prepared to raise an opposite gender child on your own, then YOU probably shouldn't have one.

Quit worrying about what the rest of us want to do.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#394 Jan 22, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Which only proves SOME parents should make sure they one of each gender in their marriage. If you are one of those, that is certainly your choice.
I suppose having one of each gender in the marriage makes it easier to have kids.
The rest of us do just fine having two of the same gender in our marriages,
"...rest of us...."?
and our kids do just fine.
Are you including both bio parents of the kids?
Again, if YOU are prepared to raise an opposite gender child on your own, then YOU probably shouldn't have one.
Ahhh laddie...tis true...tis also true it helps a lad to have a lass if he wants a wee one.....biology 101
Quit worrying about what the rest of us want to do.
Again with "the rest of us".....exactly who are the rest of us?
Quest

Culpeper, VA

#395 Jan 23, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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I suppose having one of each gender in the marriage makes it easier to have kids.
.......
It makes it possible to create children who are genetically related to both parents, which is a nice thing for so many folks.
It as no bearing on "having kids", or raising them well, since couples who adopt, or couples who form blended families can also be wonderful parents, regardless of the gender "mix" in a marriage.
And, of course, having legally married parents is good for kids, regardless of the gender of those parents.
straight shooter

Barre, VT

#396 Jan 23, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
<quoted text>Try that argument in Court. I double dog dare you.
its called gays are not "similarly situated" and you will hear it argued before the scotus...

aren't you tired of being wrong just so you can be snarky?
straight shooter

Barre, VT

#397 Jan 23, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
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Why does the State allow single parent adoption?
because one is greater than zero?

guess what?
two is greater than one...

and guess what else, one of each is better than "doubles"...

yup, a little kindergarten level logic just for you...
straight shooter

Barre, VT

#398 Jan 23, 2013
Quest wrote:
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It makes it possible to create children who are genetically related to both parents, which is a nice thing for so many folks.
It as no bearing on "having kids", or raising them well, since couples who adopt, or couples who form blended families can also be wonderful parents, regardless of the gender "mix" in a marriage.
And, of course, having legally married parents is good for kids, regardless of the gender of those parents.
do you accept that, in general, children of single parent families do not do fare as well those of married families?

if so, then why doesn't your logic that many heroic single mothers do better raising kids than abusive married parents apply like you would use for gays?

In other words, if the fact that gays can be successful in raising kids negates any claim that opposite sex parents are optimum, why doesn't the fact that Obama was raised by a single mother for example negate that "in general, children of single parent families do not do fare as well as those of married families"?

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#400 Jan 23, 2013
Truthteller wrote:
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The largest scientific study on the subject indicate major problems among children raised by homosexuals.
A number of scientific studies confirm that the best indicator of a child's future success is having both a father and mother in the home.
Which didn't you need, a father or a mother? Homosexual adoption denies a child one or the other!
False again. Can't you do any better?

Geesh.

Since: Mar 07

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#401 Jan 23, 2013
straight shooter wrote:
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do you accept that, in general, children of single parent families do not do fare as well those of married families?
if so, then why doesn't your logic that many heroic single mothers do better raising kids than abusive married parents apply like you would use for gays?
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Yes, in general, studies have should that children raised by two parents have an advantage wit children raised by single parents. That would be logical, since two people often have more financial stability and more time to spend with their kids. This applies equally to gay and straight cuoples with kids.

There are millions of of wonderful kids being raised by wonderful single parents, but it IS harder that having two committed parents raising a child. Ask any single parent.

But I don't understand your last bit. I can't see where you are comparing good parents to good parents here. Or even bad parents to bad parents.

Any child will ALWAYS do better with loving parents, even a single parent, than with abusive parent/parents.

But that's not the real argument, is it?

You will need to PROVE that kids raised by gay parents will do better if their parents are legally forced to remain unmarried. That's what this is about.

So that's the only pertinent question.

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#402 Jan 23, 2013
straight shooter wrote:
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....
..why doesn't the fact that Obama was raised by a single mother for example negate that "in general, children of single parent families do not do fare as well as those of married families"?
Do you know what "in general" means? And how it differs from "always"?

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#403 Jan 23, 2013
Ninthman wrote:
I never realized how much the French people are against gay marriage. They are all rioting in France to stop gay marriage. Who would have thought?
America is more gay than France!!
Ain't that sumpin'?
French Catholics are against same sex couples marrying. That's not the entire population of France.
straight shooter

Barre, VT

#404 Jan 23, 2013
Quest wrote:
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False again. Can't you do any better?
Geesh.
care to explain how you can agree that children of single parents on average fare worse in the face of all the same exceptions you note as to gays?

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#405 Jan 23, 2013
Truthteller wrote:
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Which didn't you need, a father or a mother? Homosexual adoption denies a child one or the other!
Have you ever asked a child with gay parents which of their parents they could do without? Which one they would swap with someone of a different gender, so as to have the "right mix"?
straight shooter

Barre, VT

#406 Jan 23, 2013
Quest wrote:
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Yes, in general, studies have should that children raised by two parents have an advantage wit children raised by single parents.
oops I guessed i jumped the gun with my previous post which you have answered here...my apologies for MY error...

I am asking why the fact that single parents have raised many children better than SOME married couples doesn't negate the general rule?Money does not explain why the general rule holds in the face of exceptions (like Obama).

I opine that by having access to both genders, children raised by opposite sex couples have an "advantage". But this is disputed based on the fact that gays often raise balanced children as if that fact negates the general rule?

SO...
if the fact that single parents are often successful does not change the general rule, why does the fact that gay parents can raise a child successfully negate the rule?

that gays have an extra hurdle which can be addressed, but its nonetheless still there...

as to proving anything, neither side has anything but junk science to rely on right now...
straight shooter

Barre, VT

#407 Jan 23, 2013
Quest wrote:
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Have you ever asked a child with gay parents which of their parents they could do without? Which one they would swap with someone of a different gender, so as to have the "right mix"?
who the heck would do that to a kid?
I mean really....

Have I seen children obviously jealous that my kids have a father?
yes, I have...
straight shooter

Barre, VT

#408 Jan 23, 2013
Quest wrote:
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Do you know what "in general" means? And how it differs from "always"?
yes, I specifically put it there...

In GENERAL, children of straights will fare better...
now watch as you highlight children of gay couples who have done just fine...

see what I am doing here?
Jane Dodo

West New York, NJ

#409 Jan 23, 2013
straight shooter wrote:
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its called gays are not "similarly situated" and you will hear it argued before the scotus...
aren't you tired of being wrong just so you can be snarky?
He was talking about bisexuals, dipshit. Bisexuals should be allowed to have one spouse of each sex.

Aren't you embarrassed? Probably not.
Jane Dodo

West New York, NJ

#410 Jan 23, 2013
straight shooter wrote:
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because one is greater than zero?
guess what?
two is greater than one...
and guess what else, one of each is better than "doubles"...
yup, a little kindergarten level logic just for you...
One of each is better than doubles, eh?? Prove it.

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