The May 21, 2011 rapture prediction: Part 2

Jul 26, 2010 Full story: Examiner.com 165

Throughout the history of mankind, frauds, opportunists and charlatans have taken advantage of the ignorance, fears and superstitions of their fellow man in the name of religion.

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“Gods love ... poured out”

Since: Dec 06

Sacramento

#1 Jul 27, 2010
What a rogues gallery the JWs are linked with.

"The Jehovah's Witnesses announced that Christ would come in 1914, then in 1925, then again in 1975. During World War II, faithful witnesses were encouraged not to get married because the war was a sure sign of the soon coming of Christ. Until recently, the Watchtower taught that the generation that saw the events of 1914 would see the return of Christ, but with the extended passage of time, that teaching has been quietly dropped."
bobby stecko

Dundalk, MD

#2 Jul 27, 2010
borgfree wrote:
What a rogues gallery the JWs are linked with.
"The Jehovah's Witnesses announced that Christ would come in 1914, then in 1925, then again in 1975. During World War II, faithful witnesses were encouraged not to get married because the war was a sure sign of the soon coming of Christ. Until recently, the Watchtower taught that the generation that saw the events of 1914 would see the return of Christ, but with the extended passage of time, that teaching has been quietly dropped."
JW were all time false as false prophets man made Gospel because time pattern they based on 7000 years of Creation earth chronology of Bishop Usher 16 century theolog,this theory is misleding,biblical chronology and scietific based on ocean sendiments proof existing of 13000 years earth.
whole doctrines of JW BASED on Bishop Usher chronology have nothing to do with 2 time comming Christ,same 1914 is BULL,because our King LORD OF LORDS SEAT ON HIS THRONE AFTER RESURECTION FROM 33 BC and throwing same time Satan father of all lies.just JW foundation is man made salvation builded on mud,mud of doctrines of early church thelogs Eusebiush and Ignathius,changed look for modern world,JW are one more branch of this apostate churches builded on man doctrines,and man made creeds.
jhnsn d-s

Seattle, WA

#3 Jul 27, 2010
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Excellent research, one in a million.

Evertime the Watchtower people come out and make their claims they are essinetally saying they are "sombody".

Acts 5:36 "...For instance, before these days TheuŽdas rose, saying he himself was somebody,..."
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Martha

United States

#4 Jul 28, 2010
Jehovahs' witnesses are not false prophets, they are imperfect men, and their prophetic statements have proved to be imperfect. Bible prophecy is fulfilled in spite of mens teachings.

Jehovah's witnesses who put faith in men and their teachings of the Bible are responsible for their own consequences. The majority of Jehovah's witnesses put their faith in God's word and live in harmony with direction from GB of imperfect men.

Not all Jehovah's witnesses believed the end of this world was going to happen in 1975, only the ones who lived for that date, and spent their money and made sacrifices to be viewed by men did.

“Gods love ... poured out”

Since: Dec 06

Sacramento

#5 Jul 28, 2010
I am sure every false prophet has said: "I am NOT a false prophet"

“Gods love ... poured out”

Since: Dec 06

Sacramento

#6 Jul 28, 2010
Martha wrote:
Jehovahs' witnesses are not false prophets, they are imperfect men, and their prophetic statements have proved to be imperfect. Bible prophecy is fulfilled in spite of mens teachings.
Jehovah's witnesses who put faith in men and their teachings of the Bible are responsible for their own consequences. The majority of Jehovah's witnesses put their faith in God's word and live in harmony with direction from GB of imperfect men.
Not all Jehovah's witnesses believed the end of this world was going to happen in 1975, only the ones who lived for that date, and spent their money and made sacrifices to be viewed by men did.
Members of a cult are expected, required, to accept what the leaders teach. That is the case with Jehovah's witnesses. Any Jehovah's witness living during the 1960s and early 1970s was required to accept the 1975 teaching, if they did not accept it they were going against the "faithful and discreet slave" and would be considered "fringe witnesses" and not "good association"

“Delivering the Gospel”

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#7 Jul 28, 2010
Martha wrote:
Jehovahs' witnesses are not false prophets, they are imperfect men, and their prophetic statements have proved to be imperfect. Bible prophecy is fulfilled in spite of mens teachings.
Jehovah's witnesses who put faith in men and their teachings of the Bible are responsible for their own consequences. The majority of Jehovah's witnesses put their faith in God's word and live in harmony with direction from GB of imperfect men.
Not all Jehovah's witnesses believed the end of this world was going to happen in 1975, only the ones who lived for that date, and spent their money and made sacrifices to be viewed by men did.
Martha
When you say "their prophetic have PROVEN to be IMPERFECT",are you saying their message was wrong?
Would that not make them a false prophet? If not,what makes a false prophet false?

Also,when you say "Not all jws believe" and "the marjority of the jws",are you saying they are not ALL on the same page in their beliefs?
What about 1 Cor.1:10 that all jws quote to prove there is not division in their org. therefore they must be the only "true religion"?

“Delivering the Gospel”

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#8 Jul 28, 2010
borgfree wrote:
I am sure every false prophet has said: "I am NOT a false prophet"
Lets use their words.

"Jehovah, the God of the true prophets, will put all false prophets to shame either by not fulfilling the false prediction of such self-assuming prophets or by having His own prophecies fulfilled in a way opposite to that predicted by the false prophets. False prophets will try to hide their reason for feeling shame by denying who they really are." {Paradise Restored to Mankind 353-4}

I believe the shoe fits.

“Gods love ... poured out”

Since: Dec 06

Sacramento

#9 Jul 28, 2010
Christian Trucker wrote:
<quoted text> Lets use their words.
"Jehovah, the God of the true prophets, will put all false prophets to shame either by not fulfilling the false prediction of such self-assuming prophets or by having His own prophecies fulfilled in a way opposite to that predicted by the false prophets. False prophets will try to hide their reason for feeling shame by denying who they really are." {Paradise Restored to Mankind 353-4}
I believe the shoe fits.
Ouch! That must hurt!

They try to do an OJ, spread their toes, arch their feet, so it looks like the shoe doesn't fit, but any thinking person or for JWs "any honest-hearted person" can plainly see that the shoe does fit.
Martha

United States

#10 Jul 28, 2010
Did you not read what I wrote, not all Jehovahs witnesses lived for 1914, 1925 or 1975. Almighty God Jehovah knows how to separate people who are not sincere in their love for Him or his word.

Just as the Bible example of God's prophets is to show that you will be tested by your faith in God's word, not men. 1 Kings 13
Prime

San Dimas, CA

#11 Jul 28, 2010
Martha wrote:
Did you not read what I wrote, not all Jehovahs witnesses lived for 1914, 1925 or 1975. Almighty God Jehovah knows how to separate people who are not sincere in their love for Him or his word.
Just as the Bible example of God's prophets is to show that you will be tested by your faith in God's word, not men. 1 Kings 13
EE will you always deny Christ?

“Delivering the Gospel”

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#12 Jul 28, 2010
Martha wrote:
Did you not read what I wrote, not all Jehovahs witnesses lived for 1914, 1925 or 1975. Almighty God Jehovah knows how to separate people who are not sincere in their love for Him or his word.
Just as the Bible example of God's prophets is to show that you will be tested by your faith in God's word, not men. 1 Kings 13
Those dates were from the wtbts material.Seeing how they were wrong on all the above,how can you put faith in error?
Martha

United States

#13 Jul 28, 2010
You are missing the point of understanding prophecy. The prophecy was fulfilled, it was trying to make what men believed fit it, and that did not happen.

The WTBS has always explained what was fulfilled and why what they believed didn't happen. First there was the Rapture, that teaching proved to be untrue. Then the literal presence of Jesus Christ, that was also proven untrue, Jesus will never be on this planet earth again. 1975 proved to be 6000 years from the creation of Adam, but not the end of this system.

I put my faith in God's word the Bible, and the teaching of Bible principles in application to my life. No other religion but Jehovah's witnesses have prove to be true prophets.

“Delivering the Gospel”

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#14 Jul 28, 2010
Martha wrote:
You are missing the point of understanding prophecy. The prophecy was fulfilled, it was trying to make what men believed fit it, and that did not happen.
The WTBS has always explained what was fulfilled and why what they believed didn't happen. First there was the Rapture, that teaching proved to be untrue. Then the literal presence of Jesus Christ, that was also proven untrue, Jesus will never be on this planet earth again. 1975 proved to be 6000 years from the creation of Adam, but not the end of this system.
I put my faith in God's word the Bible, and the teaching of Bible principles in application to my life. No other religion but Jehovah's witnesses have prove to be true prophets.
Martha <quoted>You are missing the point of understanding prophecy. The prophecy was fulfilled, it was trying to make what men believed fit it, AND THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.

CT > If it did not happen, then they were wrong which = false prophets.

Wait a minute,you said I'm missing the point of how prophecy works.Please explain it to me.If I say Jesus will return friday,and you have not seen him by monday,would I be a false prophet?
kal

United States

#15 Jul 28, 2010
Christian Trucker wrote:
<quoted text>Martha <quoted>You are missing the point of understanding prophecy. The prophecy was fulfilled, it was trying to make what men believed fit it, AND THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.
CT > If it did not happen, then they were wrong which = false prophets.
Wait a minute,you said I'm missing the point of how prophecy works.Please explain it to me.If I say Jesus will return friday,and you have not seen him by monday,would I be a false prophet?
but.. the angel with the flaming sword, told joseph smith, he had to take more wives or he would slay him. angels with flaming swords don't lie!
Martha

United States

#16 Jul 28, 2010
There is no use trying to explain anything to you, I have tried a few times already.

You want to believe that Jehovah's witnesses are false prophets, so go ahead and believe it.

False prophets are prophets who predict what God is going to do, Jehovah's witnesses have never done that. Jehovah's witnesses have given their understanding of prophecy based on Scripture, as what would happen according to Bible chronology.
shaun

Tacoma, WA

#17 Jul 28, 2010
Martha wrote:
There is no use trying to explain anything to you, I have tried a few times already.
You want to believe that Jehovah's witnesses are false prophets, so go ahead and believe it.
False prophets are prophets who predict what God is going to do, Jehovah's witnesses have never done that. Jehovah's witnesses have given their understanding of prophecy based on Scripture, as what would happen according to Bible chronology.
ROTFLMFAO!!! Miss Gulch are you tired of chasing and trying to kill the angel toto??? Sorry gulch Jesus loves toto!!!

“ Harm None Do What Ye Will”

Since: Jun 08

here

#18 Jul 28, 2010
Martha wrote:
There is no use trying to explain anything to you, I have tried a few times already.
You want to believe that Jehovah's witnesses are false prophets, so go ahead and believe it.
False prophets are prophets who predict what God is going to do, Jehovah's witnesses have never done that. Jehovah's witnesses have given their understanding of prophecy based on Scripture, as what would happen according to Bible chronology.
so what you are saying is that jw's don't predict what god is going to do? that's like saying that grass is really blue and the sky is really green.like i have stated before many times,i used to be a jw, and the kh i went to was always talking about what god is going to do to those that 'were not his people,. so,has that changed or were they just making that up?
don't you think that when they predicted that christ was going to return in 1914,1925,etc and it didn't come true they were doing alittle false predicting? or was it just out and out lying? i have done some reading on the origins of the jw's and their founders.my main question is if these are god's true people and they can be traced back to christ's time then how could charles taze russel started them? i have alwaays wondered that,even when i was a witness myself. i have always wondered how they could one year say that it is okay to do something and then suddenly the next decide that it waswrong just because some old men hidden away at bethel say so.

“GOD'S TRUTHS *NEVER* CHANGE”

Since: Aug 09

A SMALL VILLAGE IN UPSTATE NY

#19 Jul 28, 2010
Martha wrote:
There is no use trying to explain anything to you, I have tried a few times already.
You want to believe that Jehovah's witnesses are false prophets, so go ahead and believe it.
I feel sorry for you, as it IS difficult trying to show evidence that the WTS writing staff has NOT shown themselves to be fools, false prophets and charlatans.

Despite their horrible track record....there are still those who are foolishly clinging to the NEXT AND LATEST GUESSES that these men will be sure to feed you as ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE that isn't.

“GOD'S TRUTHS *NEVER* CHANGE”

Since: Aug 09

A SMALL VILLAGE IN UPSTATE NY

#20 Jul 28, 2010
Hello Wykkan! Nice to see you back here again!

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