Who will be Cortland's New DA?

Who will be Cortland's New DA?

Created by Jaded13045 on Jul 14, 2008

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David Hartnett

Mark Suben

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Alice

Sherburne, NY

#1 Jul 15, 2008
What a choice! Help, please someone else run!
Suben who defended killer drunk cop Jeffrey Stockton who killed one woman and made another disabled for life! Suben managed to get him just four months in county jail! That is all I know about him.
Or Hartnett who without mercy put a friend of mine through HELL when she was innocent and I hear he is not beyond this with others also.
Although to be honest when I was involved with a case with him he was very good to me, but I was the victim not someone he considered guilty.
Amazed

Franklin, NY

#2 Jul 26, 2008
Suben may have been hired to defend him, but if you want to place blame on anyone for the plea bargain snd light sentence, look to Hartnett for that. He puts so much effort into going after kids that doesn't have time to do what we pay him to do, prosecute the real bad guys. He's screwed up so bad with this Thibeault case that it won't be long before that killer walks among us again. Think long and hard before you cast your vote for Hartnett in November.

Since: Jul 08

Franklin, NY

#3 Jul 27, 2008
I agree, it time to get Plea Bargain Dave out of office. We need someone who isn't afraid to actually go to trial. If you ask me, we need a complete revamp of the entire 6th judicial system. We need someone in the DA's office who is willing to back up those who try to enforce the law, not cut deals with the criminals. We pay the DA to put criminals away, we pay him to be our voice in the courtroom. I for one am sick of all the money Hartnett has cost the taxpayers by making stupid mistakes. Somthings got to give here.
Voter

Rome, NY

#4 Aug 17, 2008
I understand your sentiments, but don't lose sight on who "lost" this case. Suben was doing his job that he was hired to do.Remember "everyone has a right to a fair trial" (weather we like it or not) Hartnett was the one prosecuting this case. If you don't like the outcome focus your anger on the "losing" attorney !!
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Alice wrote:
What a choice! Help, please someone else run!
Suben who defended killer drunk cop Jeffrey Stockton who killed one woman and made another disabled for life! Suben managed to get him just four months in county jail! That is all I know about him.
Or Hartnett who without mercy put a friend of mine through HELL when she was innocent and I hear he is not beyond this with others also.
Although to be honest when I was involved with a case with him he was very good to me, but I was the victim not someone he considered guilty.
Jeff

Saranac Lake, NY

#5 Aug 17, 2008
Alice wrote:
What a choice! Help, please someone else run!
Suben who defended killer drunk cop Jeffrey Stockton who killed one woman and made another disabled for life! Suben managed to get him just four months in county jail! That is all I know about him.
Or Hartnett who without mercy put a friend of mine through HELL when she was innocent and I hear he is not beyond this with others also.
Although to be honest when I was involved with a case with him he was very good to me, but I was the victim not someone he considered guilty.
Alice, there were other issues with the Stockton thing, but bottom line, agree with the final decision or not, Suben did the job he was hired to do as a defense attorney. It was his job. Could he, or any defense attorney, ethically take a case and then not do their best to free their client? Of course not. Your anger should be targeted to the prosecutor. And you're right, the district attorney has a horrible record of bad prosecutions -- both poorly handled and mean spirited, not in the interest he represents. Though I honestly have no idea what those interests are.
Jeff

Saranac Lake, NY

#6 Aug 17, 2008
Alice, there were other issues with the Stockton thing, but bottom line, agree with the final decision or not, Suben did the job he was hired to do as a defense attorney. It was his job. Could he, or any defense attorney, ethically take a case and then not do their best to free their client? Of course not. Your anger should be targeted to the prosecutor. And you're right, the district attorney has a horrible record of bad prosecutions -- both poorly handled and mean spirited, not in the interest he represents. Though I honestly have no idea what those interests are.
Sharyn

AOL

#7 Oct 6, 2008
We can not let Mark Suben into the position of District Attorney makes a habit of defending the extremely guilty! He defends drug addicted child molesters, murderers etc...But I would also blame the narrow, biased views of the vacuous Judge Julie Campbell!(in 2013 I hope she is removed from that posistion!) Although in my opinion with either choice we all lose.
Jenn

Brooklyn, NY

#8 Oct 8, 2008
Mark Suben is a syracuse attorney who owns scores of run down properties in that city. Does the word slumlord mean anything? Also, Suben fled to Canada during the Vietnam War years to avoid the draft. Ask Mark Suben what he was doing and where he resided in the period from 1964 through 1978. Guaranteed you will see his face turn a bright shade of red. Better yet, have a Gold Star Mother ask him.
George

Phoenix, NY

#9 Oct 20, 2008
Amazed wrote:
Suben may have been hired to defend him, but if you want to place blame on anyone for the plea bargain snd light sentence, look to Hartnett for that. He puts so much effort into going after kids that doesn't have time to do what we pay him to do, prosecute the real bad guys. He's screwed up so bad with this Thibeault case that it won't be long before that killer walks among us again. Think long and hard before you cast your vote for Hartnett in November.
Oh Please, Thibeault's lawyer did what any lawyer worth their money would do. Try anything to get their client off. Mr. Hartnett made sure he had all his p's and q's in line so that he can get a conviction. As far as kids go, Mr. Hartnett was doing his job. Are you saying that kids shouldn't be accountable for their actions? So, any kid that commites a crime will have a free pass if Sueben is elected? Are you sure that is what you want? And one last note, did anyone ask those kids what they would be doing now if they hadn't been made accountable for their actions? I am pretty sure not going to college. Before you vote, I think you should check Mr. Hartnetts record. I am sure that you will see that his record is outstanding. Have you forgotten many of the cases that he prosecuted? One comes to mind about three children living in unacceptable conditions. The outcome was a happy one for the children. And as far as the Thibeault case I am confident there will be a conviction.
Jeff

East Syracuse, NY

#10 Oct 21, 2008
For George...George, wake up. Have a cup of coffee or something. I don't know what you mean about the kids and what they'd be doing now...they'd be doing exactly what they're doing now, going to college. On Hartnett's record...he claims a 95% conviction rate...his best year to date is 52% and that was reported in the Cortland Standard a week ago. He has file papers late on felony cases FIVE times, allowing the accused to WALK, and that includes a rape. To get really petty, he even misspelled District Attorney on his palm card, where he credits himself with thousands of prosecutions and hundreds of convictions....not a great ratio, and certainly not 95%. This is NOT about partisan politics, I AM a Republican, but I'm voting for Suben. Last I checked, the world was still spinning on its axis for having said that.
Anon

Hamilton, NY

#11 Oct 25, 2008
Hey Jeff, It is quite apparent that you are paid by the Suben campaign. Make sure you get all your facts straight before you speak. Your numbers do not match his website.
Jenn

Brooklyn, NY

#12 Oct 26, 2008
Hmmm....have you ever look Suben up in the archives of the syracuse paper?? He dumped a gun possession case that was a slam dunk against a fellow attorney. Wonder how much $$$ slid under the table on that one!!!!
Jenn

Brooklyn, NY

#13 Oct 26, 2008
ps...that was when he was an assistant da in syracuse which is his home county. Don't believe me?? Look it up!!!!!!!
Jeff

East Syracuse, NY

#14 Oct 27, 2008
Jenn wrote:
Mark Suben is a syracuse attorney who owns scores of run down properties in that city. Does the word slumlord mean anything? Also, Suben fled to Canada during the Vietnam War years to avoid the draft. Ask Mark Suben what he was doing and where he resided in the period from 1964 through 1978. Guaranteed you will see his face turn a bright shade of red. Better yet, have a Gold Star Mother ask him.
Suben owns NO property in the city. I'm becoming embarrassed to be a Republican.
Jeff

East Syracuse, NY

#15 Oct 27, 2008
Jenn wrote:
Hmmm....have you ever look Suben up in the archives of the syracuse paper?? He dumped a gun possession case that was a slam dunk against a fellow attorney. Wonder how much $$$ slid under the table on that one!!!!
I would take caution with those kinds of remarks.
Jeff

East Syracuse, NY

#16 Oct 27, 2008
Anon wrote:
Hey Jeff, It is quite apparent that you are paid by the Suben campaign. Make sure you get all your facts straight before you speak. Your numbers do not match his website.
Yes, I think he was given more credit that was due actually, that's before the Cortland Standard did their own analysis from the State Justice Web Site, showing his number substantially lower that we was credited on the site. Thanks for pointing that out, the website is 28% points in the positive for Hartnett, which was incorrect.
Jenn

Brooklyn, NY

#17 Oct 27, 2008
Jeff--
If you look in the archives section of the Syracuse newspapers under Mark Suben you will see that he does indeed have substantial holdings in that city. It would be under "real estate transactions". He is the buyer. Look at the addresses and drive by them and you will see that I am correct. With respect to the gun case, I believe that was in the early 1990's. Again, look under Mark Suben in the archives of the paper and you can read about this case. I believe Mark dumped it under the speedy trial provisions whereby a prosecutor will sit on a case until it can be dismissed for failure to prosecute. NO COMPETENT PROSECUTOR EVER LOSES A CASE FOR THIS REASON!!!! It is only a matter of stating at arraignment "the people stand ready for trial" to assure this. Rarely a prosecutor will cut a defendant a break in this manner. But usually it is a matter of gross incompetence or blatant corruption when the ADA drops a case for speedy trial. Another case involved a somewhat prominent business man who was charged with vehicular manslaughter. The ADA, Donald Fico, conveniently dumped this case. The defendant allegedly saw to it that the right people were taken care of. Shockingly, neither Fico (or Suben) was not sanctioned or terminated for their actions. See CPL 30.30 for the speedy trial statute. As an aside, Suben was NOT involved in any way in the vehicular manslaughter case which occured a couple years ago.
Jeff

Saranac Lake, NY

#18 Oct 28, 2008
Jenn,

I can't argue the real estate holdings one way or the other, because I don't know, period, so let's put that aside for this...on the point you make about a DA losing a case due to a late filing, I can't agree more. Current DA Hartnett has lost FIVE cases because of that, it's documented. NO excuses, if Suben did it once, shame on him, Hartnett did if FIVE times....Please respond.
Jenn

Brooklyn, NY

#19 Oct 29, 2008
As I said, there is NEVER any valid reason for a DA to lose a case for speedy trial purposes. Rare exceptions include unavailability of a witness or a simple desire on the part of a well intentioned prosecutor to cut a defendant a break. Not bad under proper circumstances. I do not know the circumstances regarding Mr. Hartnett's losing five cases for this reason so I really cannot comment. However, it was no secret in the syracuse legal community that Mark Suben helped out another attorney who was arrested on gun charges and that he was "rewarded" for his efforts. It was also no coincidence that Suben was discharged from the Onondaga County DA's office shortly thereafter. As to the run down homes Suben owns, simply listen (again) to what I said----check out real estate transactions in the archives of the syracuse paper under Suben and drive by them.
Anon

Syracuse, NY

#20 Oct 29, 2008
Jenn...sounds like you are getting into Jeff's melon...:)...You should write a letter to the Cortland Standard editorial page on your position explaining Mr Suben...You seem very knowledgable on him... I'm sure the people of Cortland County would love to hear your opinion Jenn...Jeff...why do you not explain where Suben lived from 1964-1978...He is your man correct?...It seems like this is nothing more than personal to you...You must be getting paid by him...are you the Jeff on his web page???...Keep up the good work Jenn always good to be fair and balanced...You should read the Cortland Standard Jenn, It would make you smile...

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