Relay for Life support affected by ab...

Relay for Life support affected by abortion views

There are 126 comments on the Farmington Daily Times story from Jul 8, 2010, titled Relay for Life support affected by abortion views. In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

What does the nation's largest abortion business and the American Cancer Society, or ACS, have in common? Apparently more than most people would think as the anti-smoking giant awarded the pro-abortion group a large grant to tell its customers they should stop smoking.

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new to farmington

Santa Fe, NM

#2 Jul 8, 2010
You have that right. ACS is going out to all groups to get the word out to quit smoking. Why should they skip Planned Parenhood, when theycan reach many more that are smoking? I think ACS is doing a good job in trying to getthe word out any way they can.
Dr Who

Bloomfield, NM

#3 Jul 8, 2010
So..... you are all for protecting life from the moment of conception but once that person is old enough to start smoking which is deadly you aren't interested in protecting life?

"I cannot and will not support the American Cancer Society/Relay for Life."

“Beauty on four legs”

Since: Sep 06

Location hidden

#4 Jul 8, 2010
Dr Who wrote:
So..... you are all for protecting life from the moment of conception but once that person is old enough to start smoking which is deadly you aren't interested in protecting life?
"I cannot and will not support the American Cancer Society/Relay for Life."
Yep.
Some 'christian' woman that one is. Oh, well, the ACS will just have to do without the .39 she was going to contribute.
I wonder why she isn't concerned about the deaths of born, living women instead of whining about an org like PP, which in some areas is the only provider of women's health care services. Oh, wait, those are BORN, sex-having women, so she doesn't care.
Shame on her.
Pro healthy women

Farmington, NM

#5 Jul 8, 2010
Firstly, "pro-choice" should never be described as "pro-abortion." Just because one is given a choice, it doesn't mean that the are being encouraged to make the wrong choice.
Secondly, Planned Parenthood does so much more than educate women on the choices they have. It is a women's health organization, which is something that is much needed in this area, and all over the country. I think encouraging women to stop smoking, or to not even start, is an important element of women's health.
It's important that women, and all americans, are given factual information about all of the choices they have in their lives. It should be recognized that Planned Parenthood and the American Cancer Society are two of the many organizations that strive to give americans the information we need to prepare for the consequences of our life choices.
Hugh Jass

Nashville, TN

#6 Jul 8, 2010
Wasn't there a recent report that smokers were more likely to quit if they were given the nudge at their dentists office? It seems logical that when you are dealing with someone you have already committed to trusting, their advice is much more likely to take. Wouldn't that apply here?

As a corrolary, of course, there is the edginess that accompanies both clinic visits, I would assume.
Anti-Cancer

Farmington, NM

#7 Jul 8, 2010
ACS's Relay for Life is a wonderful event raising high dollars for research to stop cancer, pure and simple. It hasn't anything to do with abortion, and by the way, if you don't agree with a woman's having control of her reproductive system, fine. Don't have an abortion! But don't paint a group such as Planned Partenthood, that helps women in determining their destinies, with the 'pro-abortion' brush. Shame on you indeed!
Ink

Indianapolis, IN

#8 Jul 8, 2010
new to farmington wrote:
You have that right. ACS is going out to all groups to get the word out to quit smoking. Why should they skip Planned Parenhood, when theycan reach many more that are smoking? I think ACS is doing a good job in trying to getthe word out any way they can.
Wouldn't you think PP would tell their pregnant clients to stop smoking any way, even without getting paid?

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#9 Jul 8, 2010
Ink wrote:
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Wouldn't you think PP would tell their pregnant clients to stop smoking any way, even without getting paid?
You're confused. Not surprising, given your lack of reading comprehension. Nowhere does it say that PP clinics DON'T already tell their patients to stop smoking. It says they're giving money to train the staff on offering assistance to do so. Learn to read.

BTW, they are not 'clients', they are patients. PP clinics are medical facilities, offering medical services. They are not non-medical facilities, like CPCs.
ichoosefreedom

Reynoldsburg, OH

#10 Jul 8, 2010
The ACS doesn't care about anyone but the ACS. If you think they're so darned good, ask them why they don't support schools? That's right. They own BILLIONS in property yet they pay $0 in property taxes to support our kids' schools. To top it off, schools let them run their relays at their schools.

I'm done with the ACS. Take a look at their 990 forms and see just how LITTLE they give to patients and families compare to how much their SALARIES and benefits are! And they claim they're a "volunteer" organization? They don't even look for a CURE anymore. Their "research" does not involve trying to find a way to cure this horrific disease. The barbaric ways to treat the disease have not improved. In ALL THESE YEARS, the amount of money the ACS has gotten, they haven't found a cure?

They'll never get a thin dime from me. I'll never go door-to-door for them anymore. I think they're a JOKE!
Ink

Indianapolis, IN

#11 Jul 8, 2010
Bitner wrote:
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You're confused. Not surprising, given your lack of reading comprehension. Nowhere does it say that PP clinics DON'T already tell their patients to stop smoking. It says they're giving money to train the staff on offering assistance to do so. Learn to read.
BTW, they are not 'clients', they are patients. PP clinics are medical facilities, offering medical services. They are not non-medical facilities, like CPCs.
So why pay them for something that they are already doing?

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#12 Jul 8, 2010
Ink wrote:
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So why pay them for something that they are already doing?
Ye Gods, but you're stupid. They aren't. Once again, they are paying for the clinics to train their staff to offer their patients ASSISTANCE in quitting. Did you understand the words THAT time?
marbee

Janesville, WI

#13 Jul 8, 2010
The American Cancer Society (ACS) is an organization that presents itself as an advocate for cancer victims.
Sounds great, but there are troubling truths. Who gives the ACS money? What does the ACS tell the public about the causes of cancer? What does the ACS tells the public about cancer treatment and cancer prevention? What research Does the ACS fund and what research does the ACS block? The ACS receives money from chemical companies and pharmaceutical companies and, in exchange, the ACS protects their political and economic interests. The ACS protects pharma by pushing on the public their treatment for everything from smoking to being overweight and protects pharmaceutical companies by attacking natural, non-patentable, non-pharmaceutical forms of cancer treatment and spend billions influencing legislators into making laws that benefits pharma, the benefactor of the ACS. Smoking bans and french fries come to mind? Pharma owns the market on alternative nicotine, Splenda, and bariatric surgery. The ACS wastes hundreds of millions of dollars on high salaries and bonuses vs. research by a 10/1 ratio. A cure for cancer would put pharma out of business! It's nothing but a brilliant marketing scam, and people run around in circles thinking they are making a difference. They are, to the pockets of the executives!
Ink

Indianapolis, IN

#14 Jul 8, 2010
Bitner wrote:
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Ye Gods, but you're stupid. They aren't. Once again, they are paying for the clinics to train their staff to offer their patients ASSISTANCE in quitting. Did you understand the words THAT time?
What do you suppose "smoking cessation assistance involves"

I haven't seen that listed as one of their "services"
beth

Albuquerque, NM

#15 Jul 8, 2010
thet say, No Smoking after sex!
JayDubya

Fort Worth, TX

#16 Jul 8, 2010
Any funds donated to Premeditated Homicidehood are more funds they can use to reallocate in order to market and provide their contract killer services.

Shame on the ACS.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#17 Jul 8, 2010
Ink wrote:
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What do you suppose "smoking cessation assistance involves"
I haven't seen that listed as one of their "services"
Yes, you are stupid. They've been given money to BEGIN doing it, you imbecile. It certainly involves more than just saying "you should quit smoking".
brogers

Dayton, OH

#18 Jul 8, 2010
I stupidly donated to the ACS for years until I found out that the CEO makes about $800,000 a year and directors make about $400,000 annually. Geez, my donation was like a drop in a water tower. Never again!

“Fredneck County Md”

Since: Feb 08

Small Town

#19 Jul 8, 2010
beth wrote:
thet say, No Smoking after sex!
Did you ever look?

:-)
Thomas Laprade

Thunder Bay, Canada

#20 Jul 8, 2010
The alternative to abortions is adoption
That way nobody dies or is murdered
laughing

United States

#21 Jul 9, 2010
so what

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