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There are 49 comments on the Cortez Journal News story from Jan 1, 2011, titled education. In it, Cortez Journal News reports that:

Senate Republicans on Saturday doomed an effort that would have given hundreds of thousands of young illegal immigrants a path to legal status if they enrolled in college or joined the military.

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Memo From Turner

Bayport, NY

#44 Jan 3, 2011
OvrAndOvrAgn wrote:
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I never said that US Customs and the TSA were part of the Mexican government. You should try reading a little slower.
"Mexican citizens need to pay a $100 application fee and pass a security check by U.S and "MEXICAN AUTHORITIES"
Now if you want to trust a country with a corrupt government and military then go right on ahead.
This is not a joint venture between the two governments.
The only role played by Mexican authorities is criminal background checks. Everything else including the issuance of the cards is handled by US Customs.

The result is the Mexican's can provide information that could result in somebody's application being denied, but there is nothing they can do to help somebody get a pass.

Rico from East LA

“But it's so Racist”

Since: Mar 10

United States

#45 Jan 3, 2011
Gloria85 wrote:
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Is it a conspiracy for you to avoid having a job so you can be on Topix all day and night?
Do you not have a kitchen to attend & a diaper to change?

Rico from East LA

“But it's so Racist”

Since: Mar 10

United States

#46 Jan 3, 2011
OvrAndOvrAgn wrote:
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I never said that US Customs and the TSA were part of the Mexican government. You should try reading a little slower.
"Mexican citizens need to pay a $100 application fee and pass a security check by U.S and "MEXICAN AUTHORITIES"
Now if you want to trust a country with a corrupt government and military then go right on ahead.
What are these security checks that will they be subverting? I asked you this once before!

I understand your distrust of Mexico as I've encountered corrupt police there. However, whatever the USA & Mexico are agreeing to is obviously for the benefit of commerce and efficiency for those Mexican Nationals who are not criminals.

To claim that it can be abused therefore lets not do it is rather vague & ambiguous.

Gloria85

Since: Feb 10

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#47 Jan 3, 2011
Rico from East LA wrote:
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Do you not have a kitchen to attend & a diaper to change?
I asked you 1st...
Memo From Turner

Bayport, NY

#48 Jan 3, 2011
Rico from East LA wrote:
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What are these security checks that will they be subverting? I asked you this once before!
I understand your distrust of Mexico as I've encountered corrupt police there. However, whatever the USA & Mexico are agreeing to is obviously for the benefit of commerce and efficiency for those Mexican Nationals who are not criminals.
To claim that it can be abused therefore lets not do it is rather vague & ambiguous.
I don't understand this either. Airport security occurs before you get on the plane.

Global Entry only comes into play after you land. There are no security checks at this point.
CCRand

Atlanta, GA

#49 Jan 3, 2011
like I said in a previous post, OBUMMER cares more about the Illegals and keeping them here and getting them taking care than for our very own Veterans, Senior Citizens, Welfare participants, working poor, and our Unemployed Citizens?????

Note: I am not talking about the Welfare people who can work and don't just because they can get by with it with our government.
Anybody that is physically and mentally able needs to be doing something even if it is picking up trash on the side of the road.
I dont think so

Denver, CO

#50 Jan 3, 2011
CCRand wrote:
like I said in a previous post, OBUMMER cares more about the Illegals and keeping them here and getting them taking care than for our very own Veterans, Senior Citizens, Welfare participants, working poor, and our Unemployed Citizens?????
Note: I am not talking about the Welfare people who can work and don't just because they can get by with it with our government.
Anybody that is physically and mentally able needs to be doing something even if it is picking up trash on the side of the road.
Agreed, we don't have enough money to take care of Americans because we are spending it on illegals.

“ Divided We Fall ”

Since: Dec 08

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#51 Jan 3, 2011
Memo From Turner wrote:
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This is not a joint venture between the two governments.
The only role played by Mexican authorities is criminal background checks. Everything else including the issuance of the cards is handled by US Customs.
The result is the Mexican's can provide information that could result in somebody's application being denied, but there is nothing they can do to help somebody get a pass.
It is an agreement between both countries.

Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano visited Mexico City to meet with her international counterparts and reiterate the Obama administration’s ongoing commitment to combating terrorism and other transnational crimes.
The two countries signed an agreement to facilitate secure, legitimate travel as part the United States’ and Mexico’s continued efforts to enhance the security of both nations.
Secretary Napolitano, Minister Blake Mora and Mexican Foreign Ministry Undersecretary Julian Ventura also signed a Letter of Intent between DHS, Mexico’s Secretariat of Governance and Secretariat of Foreign Affairs affirming their shared commitment to collaborating on a strategic plan for the expedited and humane repatriation of Mexican nationals to the interior of Mexico.
Memo From Turner

Bayport, NY

#52 Jan 3, 2011
OvrAndOvrAgn wrote:
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It is an agreement between both countries.
Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano visited Mexico City to meet with her international counterparts and reiterate the Obama administration’s ongoing commitment to combating terrorism and other transnational crimes.
The two countries signed an agreement to facilitate secure, legitimate travel as part the United States’ and Mexico’s continued efforts to enhance the security of both nations.
Secretary Napolitano, Minister Blake Mora and Mexican Foreign Ministry Undersecretary Julian Ventura also signed a Letter of Intent between DHS, Mexico’s Secretariat of Governance and Secretariat of Foreign Affairs affirming their shared commitment to collaborating on a strategic plan for the expedited and humane repatriation of Mexican nationals to the interior of Mexico.
You're really beating this to death. This started out with claims that 84 million Mexicans were being handed cards that exempted them from all security and inspection process everywhere.

As it turns out, this is an obscure program that requires people to undergo far more scrutiny than everybody else would receive in exchange for using a shorter line at the airport. I'll let you in on a little secret about Global Entry. Nobody uses it. Americans don't use it and I doubt too many Mexicans will either. Unless you travel internationally on a regular basis it is not really worth the effort.

The program is wholly administered by the US CBP with some support from the Mexican government. All applications are made through US CBP and all interviews are conducted by US CBP Officers. Below is a list of the locations where the interviews are held. You may notice that all of the locations are in the US.

http://www.globalentry.gov/enrollmentcenters....

Now explain to me what would be the point of a Mexican illegally entering the US to go to a Customs and Border Patrol office for an extensive interview and fingerprint process that may enable them to get a Global Entry card.

All the card would do is allow them to use an express lane at Customs the next time they enter the US. Of course since they are undocumented they would never have a reason to go through Customs. Besides that without a US visa they would not even be able to get on a plane to the US.

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