Corte Madera tackles medical pot

May 8, 2010 Read more: Marin Independent Journal 27
Nearly a year after two medical marijuana collectives appeared in town, the Corte Madera Planning Commission this week will consider an ordinance to regulate the rogue dispensaries. Read more
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Wannabe Pot Smoking Marin

Ashburn, VA

#1 May 9, 2010
I want to get me a little something something, but I do not want to pay >taxes for spend maniacs of Marin Co. BOS
I can wait for turnout of incumbents.
After all, I am not an addict!
Santa Venetia Resident

Larkspur, CA

#2 May 9, 2010
Dear District One Supervisor:

The only legal dispensary in Marin is Marin Alliance for Legal Marrijuana in Fairfax.

100 conditions on the permit.

That dispensary plus the other 3 (currently illegal) Sausalito and CM dispensaries are NOT located in a residential neighborhood like the one in Santa Venetia, which continues to operate illegally right next to the 7-11 frequented by neighborhood children.

P.S. During Dispensary Rush hours you will notice lots of cars parked on N San Pedro Rd near the stop sign. Guess there is not enough parking in the lsmall parking lot that serves the 7-11, Pot Club, and Laundramat.

Latest city to totally outlaw such businesses: Alameda
Common Sense Police

Lewisburg, PA

#3 May 9, 2010
The decision by the people of this country concerning legalization of the marijuana medicinal plant that has been used by humans for thousands of years is based in choosing between two opinions. The first one, articulated by the “father” of marijuana prohibition in the 1930-s and the second one by Dr Greenspoon, one of the leading contemporary experts in this country. These are the the direct quotes from the prohibitionist Harry Anslinger pushing the “Marijuana Tax Act” of 1937: “There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others.” “…the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races.” “Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death.” “Reefer makes darkies think they’re as good as white men.” “Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing” “You smoke a joint and you’re likely to kill your brother.” “Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind.” And this is what Dr. Greenspoon said in 2006 about Cannabis Sativa medicinal Plant: “Cannabis will one day be seen as a wonder drug, as was penicillin in the 1940s. Like penicillin, herbal marijuana is remarkably nontoxic, has a wide range of therapeutic applications and would be quite inexpensive if it were legal”. Dr. Lester Grinspoon, professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, Los Angeles Times, May 5, 2006 ” These are two opinions the citizens around the country will be asked to compare and to choose from. I do not believe that the choice is an exceedingly difficult one. What I believe is that the fear-tactics must be rejected once and for all, and at least MEDICAL marijuana should be legalized in all 50 States ASAP.
Sweetwater fan

San Anselmo, CA

#4 May 9, 2010
Marin Holistic Solutions : ... college kids hanging out in the parkinglot with their buddies laughing their butts off how easy it is to score some pot. Just say you have backpain is enough to get access to their pot I assume. As long as MHS can get their money they don't care
Santa Venetia Resident

Larkspur, CA

#5 May 9, 2010
It is the way it is Sweetwater fan. Anyone who takes the time to research this will find that it is a bad joke.

Pretty much anyone can get a "doctors" reccomendation for any real or imagined reason.
The illegally operating Santa Venetia site hands out "Drs" business cards that advertise $80 fee. Venice Beach boardwalk outfits have barkers outside loudly offering the convenience of on-site Drs so you don't have to wait ($150 for that).

Operators are in it for one reason:$$. They could care less about anything else.

Lots of armed robberies associated with many clubs including one that closed in Sausalito.

The job of regulating these outfits and protecting public safety is the job of the local politicians.

What do politicians care about ?
Sweetwater fan wrote:
Marin Holistic Solutions :... college kids hanging out in the parkinglot with their buddies laughing their butts off how easy it is to score some pot. Just say you have backpain is enough to get access to their pot I assume. As long as MHS can get their money they don't care
offgrid

Barnesville, OH

#6 May 9, 2010
teens can also easily get fake id's to buy alcohol. The differece is alcohol abuse makes people mean and violent, destroys families, and is responsible for thousands of highway deaths per year. A person can use cannabis 24 hrs a day with the worst side affect being a little short term memory loss.
Hang around a jail, 8 out of 10 of those arrested are drunk.
cirr

San Leandro, CA

#7 May 9, 2010
Santa Venetia Resident wrote:
It is the way it is Sweetwater fan. Anyone who takes the time to research this will find that it is a bad joke.
Pretty much anyone can get a "doctors" reccomendation for any real or imagined reason.
The illegally operating Santa Venetia site hands out "Drs" business cards that advertise $80 fee. Venice Beach boardwalk outfits have barkers outside loudly offering the convenience of on-site Drs so you don't have to wait ($150 for that).
Operators are in it for one reason:$$. They could care less about anything else.
Lots of armed robberies associated with many clubs including one that closed in Sausalito.
The job of regulating these outfits and protecting public safety is the job of the local politicians.
What do politicians care about ?
<quoted text>
Thanks! I need something to numb the pain of a mediocre existence, and alcohol
just makes me feel terrible. Dealing with Marin Narcissists all day--makes a boy
hungry for a escape.
cirr

San Leandro, CA

#8 May 9, 2010
Now we need to legalize all depressives and make
tri and hetro-cyclic uppers over the counter--

then we could fire those overpaid prison guards, and
give the money to our game boys and little lolitas.

America might have a future--if politicians are
replaced by scientists--and stop regulating every
industry to death. Or maybe you will all be content working
for the Cost-co's of the world?
dragonfly

Mill Valley, CA

#9 May 9, 2010
another non issue. as far i can tell, no one is complaining about these businesses. they
are quiet, and discreet. they provide a service that was previously only available
illegally and they produce tax revenue. they sell a locally grown product that
is mostly pesticide free, creates no waste and requires no refrigeration or special
containers. despite many years of testing and research, this product has not been proven to
be any more harmful than cigarettes, alchohol or trans-fats. most of these businesses are located in places that would be vacant if these pot clubs weren't renting them.
i say- back off corte madera, santa venetia, novato and sausalito. your choice is clearly between collecting-some- tax revenue vs. 0 tax revenue. i don't see any other businesses
clamoring to open anything in these places.
sativa girl

San Leandro, CA

#10 May 9, 2010
Santa Venetia Resident wrote:
Dear District One Supervisor:
the one in Santa Venetia, which continues to operate illegally right next to the 7-11 frequented by neighborhood children.
I agree, this place should not be operating next to a 7-11. These small grocery stores sell very harmful food products to our children, not to mention extremely dangerous drugs like cigarettes and coffee and alcohol and aspirin. At least according to these studies.
How Dangerous is Marijuana
Compared with other Substances?


Number of American deaths per year that result directly or primarily from the following selected causes nationwide, according to World Almanacs, Life Insurance Actuarial (death) Rates, and the last 20 years of U.S. Surgeon Generals' reports.



TOBACCO 340,000 to 450,000
ALCOHOL (Not including 50% of all highway deaths and 65% of all murders) 150,000+
ASPIRIN (Including deliberate overdose) 180 to 1,000+
CAFFEINE (From stress, ulcers, and irregular heartbeats, etc.) 1,000 to 10,000
MARIJUANA 0-none ever


(Marijuana users also have the same or lower incidence of murders and highway deaths and accidents than the general non-marijuana using population as a whole. Crancer Study, UCLA; U.S. Funded ($6 million), First & Second Jamaican Studies, 1968 to 1974; Costa Rican Studies, 1980 to 1982; et al. LOWEST TOXICITY 100% of the studies done at dozens of American universities and research facilities show pot toxicity does not exist. Medical history does not record anyone dying from an overdose of marijuana.(UCLA, Harvard, Temple, etc.)


Drug Enforcement Administrative Law Judge, Francis L. Young, called marijuana

"one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man,"

I know my argument sounds backwards to some, but thats how I see it. For those that think kids get pot at the medical dispensary, I say, Why? they can get it far cheaper at school from the drug dealers. I don't say close the 7-11. They are selling legal products within the rules. Just like the Cannabis Dispensary.



somebody told me

San Leandro, CA

#11 May 9, 2010
sativa girl wrote:
<quoted text>

Drug Enforcement Administrative Law Judge, Francis L. Young, called marijuana
"one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man,"
I would like to see proof that this DEA judge or any other judge would say such a thing about this terrible drug.
sativa girl

San Leandro, CA

#12 May 9, 2010
somebody told me wrote:
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I would like to see proof that this DEA judge or any other judge would say such a thing about this terrible drug.
From Judge Grey,
I served as a Superior Court judge in Orange County for 25 years, so I was on the front lines of California's war on cannabis for a long time.
Here's what I learned:
California simply can't afford to continue to waste hundreds of millions of dollars and countless hours of law enforcement time targeting non-violent cannabis consumers who have hurt no one.
That's why I strongly support the Regulate, Control, and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010.
In order to spread the word about the November initiative, I've recorded a one-minute video called "Prioritize." I hope you'll take a moment to watch it -- and just as importantly, share it with your friends and family.
Click here to watch the video!
http://www.taxcannabis.org/page/content/judge...

It isn't every day that conservative columnist George Will and liberal pundit Arianna Huffington agree on something. But they do agree that our war on cannabis has failed. That's because no matter what political lens you look through, it's crystal clear that our current cannabis policies are wrong.
Our police waste countless hours targeting and arresting non-violent cannabis consumers. Those arrested are then sent to court, where judges waste countless hours hearing their cases and sentencing them. Then they wind up in jail, where we waste hundreds of millions of dollars incarcerating them.
On top of this, we have thousands of people in state prisons simply because they smoked marijuana while on parole. This often puts their families back on welfare when they are placed back in prison.
Yet none of this stops anyone from consuming cannabis. It doesn't make our communities safer. It just doesn't make sense.
California has an historic opportunity in November to change all of this. We've got to seize it.
Please take a moment to watch my short video -- and then forward this email to your friends and family.
I'm optimistic that we can win in November, but only if we get active and educate California voters about the initiative.
Sincerely,

Judge Jim Gray (ret.)
Proponent, Control & Tax Cannabis 2010

This is why we need to pass the TAX, CONTROL AND REGULATE CANNABIS 2010
Pinky T

Mill Valley, CA

#13 May 9, 2010
I have been to BOTH of these clubs and they are defiantly the better clubs in Marin.
There has been great debate about whose got the license to do legitimate business and its been corte madera that has not been able to issue the new kind of permit.
Now that the city has time to figure what works and what does not work....

Like for instance.... The corte madera clubs are not next to a baseball field so all the kids can see and wonder what happens in the pot store in fairfax.
What happened to being 1000 Ft away from schools, parks and playgrounds? Like it says in prop. 215??

I guess fairfax overlooked that little gem in there 100 "conditions"
Is one of the "conditions" not to let people always ask to buy pot for them? I seriously get asked every time I am there.... they just sit in the car and wait for a patient with credentials to show up...
Either it's a set up or someone been banned from there or what ever... I dont want to make that decision for someone else... I dont like to be put in that situation either.....
I like to help, but not at my expense
somebody told me

San Leandro, CA

#14 May 9, 2010
Pinky T wrote:
I have been to BOTH of these clubs and they are defiantly the better clubs in Marin.
There has been great debate about whose got the license to do legitimate business and its been corte madera that has not been able to issue the new kind of permit.
Now that the city has time to figure what works and what does not work....
Like for instance.... The corte madera clubs are not next to a baseball field so all the kids can see and wonder what happens in the pot store in fairfax.
What happened to being 1000 Ft away from schools, parks and playgrounds? Like it says in prop. 215??
I guess fairfax overlooked that little gem in there 100 "conditions"
Is one of the "conditions" not to let people always ask to buy pot for them? I seriously get asked every time I am there.... they just sit in the car and wait for a patient with credentials to show up...
Either it's a set up or someone been banned from there or what ever... I dont want to make that decision for someone else... I dont like to be put in that situation either.....
I like to help, but not at my expense
I hope you don't buy the pot for these other people in the parking lot waiting for people they think might buy for them. That would be as bad as buying beer for them at the 7-11
BUDDY BOY

Berkeley, CA

#16 May 9, 2010
I smoke cigars. You smoke Mother Mary. Who cares?

“I'll paint any car,”

Since: Aug 08

For $99.99

#17 May 9, 2010
I smoke trout.
Pinky T

Mill Valley, CA

#18 May 9, 2010
somebody told me wrote:
<quoted text>
I hope you don't buy the pot for these other people in the parking lot waiting for people they think might buy for them. That would be as bad as buying beer for them at the 7-11
well miss somebody said it was lynnette ... thing is... the other clubs make SURE that crap does not happen.... i dont want to be asked and to be put in a situation where I have to say no to begin with...
I have stopped going to that club in fairfax among other issuses that I will not be apart of the maddness of fairfax...
I will though be there for that fairfax town meeting to make sure that club is known how crappy it treats their cash cows, er I mean patients. how crappy they treat thier patients at the fairfax club....
its on the 20th right?? i cant wait.
sativa girl

San Leandro, CA

#19 May 10, 2010
Pinky T wrote:
<quoted text>

I have stopped going to that club in fairfax among other issuses that I will not be apart of the maddness of fairfax...
.
Thank you. I think it's better for all of us this way. Go ask Alice when she's ten feet tall, no disrespect Mr. Bunny
Maybe Definitely Defiant

Ashburn, VA

#20 May 10, 2010
Pinky T wrote:
I have been to BOTH of these clubs and they are defiantly the better clubs in Marin.
You are definitely positive about their defiance?
Bud Green

Rocklin, CA

#21 May 10, 2010
Cops and city officials like talking about "rogue dispensaries," but that doesn't mean the phrase should be parroted in the lede of this story. As the comments here prove in abundance, there is no shortage of people who view medical marijuana dismissively, which makes it all that much easier to paint all medipot providers as "shady" or worse.

The reporter and/or editor would likely choose their words more carefully after spending more time covering the MM scene; balanced reporting requires better word choice than shown here.

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