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randallh

Dallas, TX

#1 May 31, 2012
i wonder what city leaders will do with the former superkmart buiding on west highway 31 also the former golden corral restruant that sits empty and boarded up on west seventh? also the former cinemark cinema 4 cinema?
Texas Proud

Tuscaloosa, AL

#2 Jun 4, 2012
Probably turn them into taco stands
Noahzark

Euless, TX

#3 Jun 28, 2012
randallh wrote:
i wonder what city leaders will do with the former superkmart buiding on west highway 31 also the former golden corral restruant that sits empty and boarded up on west seventh? also the former cinemark cinema 4 cinema?
Hey! I know: why don't you buy them yourself? Then YOU can open and manage multiple businesses! It will be great! I'll look forward to your opening dates!
Texas Proud

Euless, TX

#4 Jun 30, 2012
Yes make them all taco stands/flea markets/auto repair and you will make a fortune. Corsicana is a dying town for any business. I'm surprised there's even a walmart there still
Noahzark

Euless, TX

#5 Jul 1, 2012
randallh wrote:
i wonder what city leaders will do with the former superkmart buiding on west highway 31 also the former golden corral restruant that sits empty and boarded up on west seventh? also the former cinemark cinema 4 cinema?
Randalh:
Since ALL three (3) of these buildings are PRIVATELY (I.e. " NOT PUBLICLY") owned properties, why don't YOU call the PRIVATE property owner and ask the PRIVATE property owner why these buildings are vacant?
The names and contact information for the PRIVATE property owner and/or listing broker is clearly written on signage located directly in front of these buildings.
You may call the broker and/or PRIVATE property owner and tell them you are willing to assit in locating a suitable tenant. I am sure they will welcome YOUR help!!!!
FWGirl

Irving, TX

#6 Jul 1, 2012
I think Ben Wheeler TX is a good example of what could be done with the downtown area, at least. I think that the organization that is revitalizing it rents buildings to artists/artisans for $1/mo just to bring the town back. If there are privately owned buildings empty in downtown, I would hope the owners would consider letting renters fix up/maintain them in lieu of rent. It's better than watching them crumble and paying taxes on them just to see them destroyed by neglect.

Those other empty buildings are just what they are. Every city has them. Fort Worth has them all over the place and I think it's still the fastest growing city in the entire country. Since the big cinema bought the little one, I think they would score a lot of points with the community by letting someone do something with it, too, for free, up to and including allowing the theater to show old and/or indie films that the big cinema would never show. I would love to see 'Bernie' in Corsicana, for instance. I'll have to go to Dallas or wait for Netflix. People here are more sophisticated than I first thought. When I brought our cat 'Ratzo' to the vet, the vet tech asked if he was named for the movie 'Midnight Cowboy'. It's a pretty obscure film so I was impressed that he got the reference so I do think there's a market for films outside of the mainstream. NEway, just my useless suggestions for the day.:)
noahzark

Euless, TX

#7 Jul 1, 2012
FWGirl wrote:
I think Ben Wheeler TX is a good example of what could be done with the downtown area, at least. I think that the organization that is revitalizing it rents buildings to artists/artisans for $1/mo just to bring the town back. If there are privately owned buildings empty in downtown, I would hope the owners would consider letting renters fix up/maintain them in lieu of rent. It's better than watching them crumble and paying taxes on them just to see them destroyed by neglect.
Those other empty buildings are just what they are. Every city has them. Fort Worth has them all over the place and I think it's still the fastest growing city in the entire country. Since the big cinema bought the little one, I think they would score a lot of points with the community by letting someone do something with it, too, for free, up to and including allowing the theater to show old and/or indie films that the big cinema would never show. I would love to see 'Bernie' in Corsicana, for instance. I'll have to go to Dallas or wait for Netflix. People here are more sophisticated than I first thought. When I brought our cat 'Ratzo' to the vet, the vet tech asked if he was named for the movie 'Midnight Cowboy'. It's a pretty obscure film so I was impressed that he got the reference so I do think there's a market for films outside of the mainstream. NEway, just my useless suggestions for the day.:)
FWGirl:
I think you are spot-on!
I completely agree: Ben Wheeler is an awesome example of how a philanthropist (or any direct infusion of money and talent) can turn around an area that was a victim of a market-shift, or loss of jobs, or any other series of events that created a surplus of vacant property. As I understand it, many of the property owners in the Corsicana downtown district have been (quietly) purchasing buildings and working hard to revitalize the downtown district. In my opinion, the major issues facing the continued revitalization of the downtown district concerns bringing people into the area on a consistent basis. This will involve adaption of buildings into loft apartments (permanent residents), enticing commercial businesses to relocate into the Chase Bank and the BoA buildings (walking wallets), and continuing to promote regularly scheduled events in the arts, music, and cultural arenas (such as the Palace Theater, Warehouse Living Arts, The Remington, Martin's Music Hall, etc...) for entertainment activities to draw outsiders into the downtown district. Also, the retailers and restaurants will need to work together to create an environment that is "open for business" with designated late nights for shopping and special attractions to create a unique shopping experience for encouraging people to come to downtown Corsicana versus any of the alternatives. Just like the "fun" atmosphere found in Ben Wheeler, Texas!
Just a thought....
FWGirl

Irving, TX

#8 Jul 2, 2012
Oh NO, another solution oriented person on Corsicana topix. I think hell may indeed be freezing over. I know that people who were raised here have just about given up, but as a newbie, all I see is opportunity, once I take off my negative glasses. Yes, this town is sinking and needs a lot of work BUT it's a great little town and deserves to come back. I wish I had the money to do something creative but I don't.(I am a willing volunteer though.) But there is A LOT of old money here. We need a Corsicana version of the Bass family here. They turned downtown FW into a gold mine in less than a decade. And no, we are not FW, as we are not in the metroplex but we are a town that could become a 'destination'. So, if any monied folks are reading this, then hop to it!
The Insider

Corsicana, TX

#9 Jul 2, 2012
You two apparently have a lot of ideas and “new energy”.
Why don’t you buy the buildings and start new enterprises?
You obviously ignore the situation in town. Many investors in Downtown tried that, to revitalize and bring entertainment and the city leaders denied them the opportunity.
I think is funny how you people come with what you call “great ideas” but no money…
This town is dying because of the leaders running the town.
The Insider

Corsicana, TX

#10 Jul 2, 2012
Makes you wonder why this town is dying and you have people working for this city for decades no “new blood”… People keep voting for the same people to keep them in power and that’s why there are no changes… Corsicana government is a “family business”!
The Insider

Corsicana, TX

#11 Jul 2, 2012
Only a few people is allowed to bring entertainment to this town, only a select group can do as they please and get permits without been harassed and abused by the City Manager, City attorney, Police department and inspectors…
FWGirl

Irving, TX

#12 Jul 2, 2012
I don't disagree entirely, Mr. Wasabi. I'm an idea person. It's up to others to utilize my ginormous brain for profit. I already run 3 businesses. I'm just happy to see a non negative Nellie on the board for a change. And the more ideas that get posted, the better. Changing a town's dynamic is a long and tedious process. Kvetching about the status quo gets us nowhere. Of course, I complain, too because it is also a tool but I don't have a hopeless attitude. Without hope, we may as well just take a cyanide pill and be done with it. If I were a Watkins or McNutt, I'd buy downtown and city hall myself!
The Insider

Corsicana, TX

#14 Jul 2, 2012
Well as you can see people is giving up and selling all their properties in downtown…
The Insider

Corsicana, TX

#15 Jul 2, 2012
FWGirl wrote:
I don't disagree entirely, Mr. Wasabi. I'm an idea person. It's up to others to utilize my ginormous brain for profit. I already run 3 businesses. I'm just happy to see a non negative Nellie on the board for a change. And the more ideas that get posted, the better. Changing a town's dynamic is a long and tedious process. Kvetching about the status quo gets us nowhere. Of course, I complain, too because it is also a tool but I don't have a hopeless attitude. Without hope, we may as well just take a cyanide pill and be done with it. If I were a Watkins or McNutt, I'd buy downtown and city hall myself!
Keep your positive attitude and great ideas, they wont change anything in this town.
FWGirl

Irving, TX

#16 Jul 2, 2012
I will and I still <3 your negative ass. And I also do agree with you on some points. Yes, this town could easily disappear in a decade or two. But, I think it can be halted and I will keep typing ideas just to try to help halt it. Some business plans are good, some are bad but providing creative people with inexpensive housing/workspaces WORKS!!! I know a lot of people who would like to escape the rat race of DFW and if opportunity existed here, some would take advantage. If the city leaders are getting in the way of opportunities, then yes, vote them out!(I can not as a citizen of Oak Valley.) My point is that if all we do is moan and groan, no one will even try. There is a wonderful Egyptian RR in FW that is getting priced out of its market rent-wise (unsubstantiated rumor but from reliable sources). I intend to see if the owner truly wants to retire or if he would relocate. I would help him just to get chicken shwarma hummus a coupla times a week. I would go to the city, see what is required, see what it costs and present it to him. This is what we all need to be doing, rather than bitching on topix.
Sheesh

Corsicana, TX

#17 Jul 3, 2012
FWGirl, you're like a ray of sunshine! I'm so glad you're here in the Corsicana area and on this forum.

I get so tired of the beaten-down, negative attitudes from some of the locals. Most I run into refuse to think outside the box, offer any solutions or get involved to make anything better.

They seem to be content with staying on the sidelines, whining like victims. But, hey, they have every right to do that.

However, as Dr. Phil used to say, "How's that workin' for ya?"
Noahzark

Euless, TX

#18 Jul 4, 2012
FWGirl and Sheesh:
You both make very good points!
I was doing some work in Waxahachie and Ennis a few weeks back. Therefore I had an opportunity to visit some of the businesses located in each downtown district. I know this will be challenging for 'Insider' to understand, but the business owners were complaining about the loss of other businesses and the decline of their own business volume. Furthermore, the perception of the business owners in these OTHER cities was that the City was somehow responsible. Imagine: it was certainly NOT the downturn in the overall GLOBAL economy, it wasn't RECORD increases in gasoline prices to the point one's gasoline costs virtually equal another car payment, it certainly wasn't the individual business owner's fault. Hmmmmmmm: Seems to be a familiar pattern of behavior here...
As I mentioned before, it is interesting that NOW in Corsicana, several buildings are being purchased and renovated by local residents. I (for one) am excited to see the POSITIVE momentum that is starting to build in the downtown district. Thanks to Jimmy Hale, Glenn and Dawn Stewart, John Yates, Mike and Virginia Greene, and the investors who just purchased the former IOOF building--- just to cite a few specific people who are willing to be part of the SOLUTION! It will not happen overnight, but it is in FACT starting to happen.
FWGirl

Irving, TX

#19 Jul 4, 2012
Sheesh, you know that I love you to death, even though I've never met ya. It seems like people here are beaten down and maybe that is because of the way the city is run but all cities have their share of problems. And all cities have their share of city blamers, too. I was surrounded by them in East FW, where I lived for 6 years before moving to the farm. EFW has been long neglected but has some of the most fabulous architecture in town and is full of people trying to help make it better. Large, curving, tree lined streets, big lots and 50's and mid century homes. White flight brought the NH down. As the older folks died off, their homes got turned into rentals, that brought drugs, crime and low property values. It also brought sex offenders. So, I, being my wonderful self, immersed myself in city politics and participated. And ya know what, sometimes, IT WORKED! Yes, it was a beating and yes, my husband hated seeing me spend my time frustrated and working on sometimes futile efforts which were not only done for free but probably were bad for my own business. But, I had a hand in stopping a horribly planned community that would have turned 100 post oaks on 3 pristine acres into 18 ticky tacky houses, keeping McDonald's from putting up a ginormous sign that went against our sign ordinance and numerous other small issues.

So, yes, I am insane and love to beat my head against walls which is why I still communicate with you, for instance. But, either poop or get off the pot, fella. I know that you have tried things here that did not work out. Yes, I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT. I have tried things that failed sometimes too but I NEVER STOP TRYING. And overall, my success rate is pretty darned good! So, now it's time for another peanut and dim bulb from you but don't worry, it doesn't phase me a bit and I will continue to be Sheesh's little ray of sunshine!:)
FWGirl

Irving, TX

#20 Jul 4, 2012
And Noah: Yes, all businesses are suffering. My main business started falling off in 2007 but it's somewhat of a luxury business and as such, is one of the first areas cut out of personal or corporate budgets. Luckily, I owned this place free and clear and I am climbing slowly out of debt and my business this year has actually increased its revenue. I also started an additional business last month which I have high hopes for. All that I do is home based; no store fronts for me. But, most of my friends are also self employed. And many own businesses in the areas I linked to. So I do have first hand (almost) knowledge of how to make improvements in a blighted area and have seen great successes by people I care about doing just that. I am glad to hear that people are being proactive and also thank those who you've mentioned but I don't know. (I can count on one hand how many people I really KNOW in Corsicana.) Waxahachie is such a wonderful place. I love attending events at the Webb Gallery (very cool concept and owners) and enjoy having a very messy meal at Fuzzy's (which started in FW). I like the pork burrito and need a baby bib to walk out halfway presentable. Corsicana will probably never be Wax but it can get better and time is of essence. When all I see is geriatrics (don't get me wrong, I love older folks) eating at TOP most of the time, it depresses me. We are losing our young people. The ones that spend money and make more young people for our community. So, yes, I am scared for this town. The people I do know here call it home. And it is my home too now so I refuse to just throw in the towel. Happy Independence day to all of you good folks, even the ones who think I'm a dimwitted nutjob. ;)
Texas Proud

Brooklyn, NY

#21 Jul 4, 2012
Well it's good to keep dreaming anyway. Lived in the area since 79 and it really hasn't changed all that much. Sure we have added some stores but no real jobs and no stores worth anything except a few local landmarks like greens. Not sure if there in business anymore. Use to go to roys all the time and harwells automotive where people knew you by name. Now it's all about give me your money and get out. That's any chain though not just this area. The people who run this town are old money and elected officials do what they say. It's sad but true. I guess life is such

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