Bratton clarifies discipline action

Bratton clarifies discipline action

There are 152 comments on the Corsicana Daily Sun story from Mar 23, 2011, titled Bratton clarifies discipline action. In it, Corsicana Daily Sun reports that:

Corsicana - Police Chief Randy Bratton said the officers suspended for cheating on their on-line certification tests may not have asked the clerk to take their tests for them, although they did give her their passwords, and allowed the false course certificates to be submitted as valid, and didn't report that the clerk had taken the tests on their ...

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Since: Jun 10

Fort Worth, now Corsicana

#142 Apr 16, 2011
annm wrote:
I dont have a problem with anyone knowing who I am. Most people in town know me by this.
Ann Massey - [email protected]
Oh and by the way. We lost another industry today. Primex on Highway 31 is closing shop and allowing some to transfer to either the Nevada or Georgia Plant.Not sure of the number of employees. Was told they were working 3 shifts. Guessing about 30 to 40 employees. My niece husband was one, and they just had a baby three weeks ago. So he is starting to look at Ennis and Waxahachie - where there is potential for growth
Thanks, Ann. I'll email you after the Ranger game. I'd really like to help in whatever capacity I can. Lots of people aren't comfortable sharing personal info on the web. Too many nuts in the world. You're a brave woman!

Since: Jun 10

Fort Worth, now Corsicana

#143 Apr 16, 2011
Sent you an email. Check your spam box if you didn't get it. Glad you're posting. I think all of us are!
Veritas

Corsicana, TX

#144 Apr 17, 2011
annm wrote:
I have public info on all city employees pay.
Nice to know we think more of the two ?? supervisors in the City Parks than the police officers. Base pay for JW is $ 27.194 an hr and JG is $ 19.28. The Parks manager total compensation is $ 103,098.90 a year. I guess hiding out and watching others pick up trash is more important than the PD officers. Remember the city employees get an automatic raise every 2 years at 4% up to 20 years. The civil service is less. It is amazing what the hourly rate and perks are for some of these employees who are sitting in the job waiting to retire. I dont mind paying good employees a good wage. I have, but I expect the job to be done without my oversight. The job is not getting job in some departments. I see the waste all the time. We have managers that work part time being paid fulltime
A very good point indeed. I would also like to know about the savings that the city now has as a result of NOT contributing to the said amount to the employees' retirement. What?! Do you have any information on this? I m referencing today's Daily Sun article about pay raises possible due to the savings in the city's contributions to employees' retirement. What is this about?
Veritas

Corsicana, TX

#145 Apr 17, 2011
Mr Wisdom wrote:
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I take issue with the officers?
Whatever…
They cheated and were caught…
Do you want me to praise them?
I respect whoever stands for the truth!
My business didn’t succeed?
What are you talking about?
Are you trying to intimidate me?
You are right I’m going to stop posting here people don’t care about the reality of each situation, they are either "bootlickers", "puppets" or "city officials" posting with different names.
Mr. Wisdom, I most certainly am NOT trying to intimidate you or anyone else participating in this forum; I do not post in a facetious manner. Actually, some of your posts are quite good (referring to the responses to anm's information on the ridiculous salaries of city employees to be specific0> But, your posts in regards to police officers, CPOA, and city employees are neither fair nor accurate. The officers are not accused of any criminal conduct (Texas Rangers did investigate this, no criminal charges pending to my knowledge). I question your obvious mean-spirited attacks aimed at any and all city employees wearing the BLUE. You posted earlier about firing all employees who served the city longer than 10 yrs. Really?! Get rid of all employees who have faithfully served the city? Let's not reward knowledge, experience, or hard work?! Have errors been made? Would it be nice to have a DO OVER option? The answer to both these ?s is "yes." But you do not propose any suggestions to move forward, it is just a lot of static and no constructive or impartial solutions. The officers, all the officers, are humans. There is human error involved. How do you eliminate human error in ANY field?
Veritas

Corsicana, TX

#146 Apr 17, 2011
Not from Hastings, MN. I noticed that this city & state were showing on my last posting. IDK why, I am a resident of Corsicana and have been for sometime.

Since: Jun 10

Fort Worth, now Corsicana

#147 Apr 17, 2011
Veritas wrote:
Not from Hastings, MN. I noticed that this city & state were showing on my last posting. IDK why, I am a resident of Corsicana and have been for sometime.
If you register on the forum, your location will be consistant. If you don't register you get what Topix gives you.
Mr Wisdom

Wilmer, TX

#148 Apr 18, 2011
Veritas wrote:
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Mr. Wisdom, I most certainly am NOT trying to intimidate you or anyone else participating in this forum; I do not post in a facetious manner. Actually, some of your posts are quite good (referring to the responses to anm's information on the ridiculous salaries of city employees to be specific0> But, your posts in regards to police officers, CPOA, and city employees are neither fair nor accurate. The officers are not accused of any criminal conduct (Texas Rangers did investigate this, no criminal charges pending to my knowledge). I question your obvious mean-spirited attacks aimed at any and all city employees wearing the BLUE. You posted earlier about firing all employees who served the city longer than 10 yrs. Really?! Get rid of all employees who have faithfully served the city? Let's not reward knowledge, experience, or hard work?! Have errors been made? Would it be nice to have a DO OVER option? The answer to both these ?s is "yes." But you do not propose any suggestions to move forward, it is just a lot of static and no constructive or impartial solutions. The officers, all the officers, are humans. There is human error involved. How do you eliminate human error in ANY field?
"It's true that the vast majority of the 69 million households make less than $50,000 -- with very heavy representation among households making less than $30,000."

http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/14/pf/taxes/who_...
Mr Wisdom

Wilmer, TX

#149 Apr 18, 2011
Veritas wrote:
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Mr. Wisdom, I most certainly am NOT trying to intimidate you or anyone else participating in this forum; I do not post in a facetious manner. Actually, some of your posts are quite good (referring to the responses to anm's information on the ridiculous salaries of city employees to be specific0> But, your posts in regards to police officers, CPOA, and city employees are neither fair nor accurate. The officers are not accused of any criminal conduct (Texas Rangers did investigate this, no criminal charges pending to my knowledge). I question your obvious mean-spirited attacks aimed at any and all city employees wearing the BLUE. You posted earlier about firing all employees who served the city longer than 10 yrs. Really?! Get rid of all employees who have faithfully served the city? Let's not reward knowledge, experience, or hard work?! Have errors been made? Would it be nice to have a DO OVER option? The answer to both these ?s is "yes." But you do not propose any suggestions to move forward, it is just a lot of static and no constructive or impartial solutions. The officers, all the officers, are humans. There is human error involved. How do you eliminate human error in ANY field?
I did propose solutions. 10 years or 2 terms, cap salaries at 52k. I’m sorry if you don’t like my solutions. USA is unrecognizable, so far from what the founders created, they would be ashamed and sad if they could see what have become of this great nation.. Government shouldn’t be a place for people to get rich, should be a place for people to serve their country.
Who cares?
Just look at this forum, only a few people complaint about this situation, we are losing this country and nobody seems to care…
Mr Wisdom

Wilmer, TX

#150 Apr 18, 2011
Veritas wrote:
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Mr. Wisdom, I most certainly am NOT trying to intimidate you or anyone else participating in this forum; I do not post in a facetious manner. Actually, some of your posts are quite good (referring to the responses to anm's information on the ridiculous salaries of city employees to be specific0> But, your posts in regards to police officers, CPOA, and city employees are neither fair nor accurate. The officers are not accused of any criminal conduct (Texas Rangers did investigate this, no criminal charges pending to my knowledge). I question your obvious mean-spirited attacks aimed at any and all city employees wearing the BLUE. You posted earlier about firing all employees who served the city longer than 10 yrs. Really?! Get rid of all employees who have faithfully served the city? Let's not reward knowledge, experience, or hard work?! Have errors been made? Would it be nice to have a DO OVER option? The answer to both these ?s is "yes." But you do not propose any suggestions to move forward, it is just a lot of static and no constructive or impartial solutions. The officers, all the officers, are humans. There is human error involved. How do you eliminate human error in ANY field?
If you make the government a place for people to serve then we would force the citizens to focus in developing the “free market”. Sad to say that today “government is a better place to find a job”… we know well and is properly documented what happen when we grow the government instead the “Free market”(communism and socialism, 2 systems that are proven to be a failure).
layed back and off

Corsicana, TX

#151 Sep 2, 2011
I heard today that three of the officers had lost their jobs. No names just wondering if it were true?
Mr Wisdom

Grand Prairie, TX

#152 Sep 3, 2011
annm wrote:
Remember the city changed the allocation of city attorney to $ 12000 a year, prosecutor $ 36,000 plus legal services. The current city attorney is acting since no one has run for the elected position. I understand that is currently being paid $ 275 an hour for additional legal services. Some one is currently asking for his total compensation for the past three years. When this is known I will pass on.
I have copy of the Budgetary Payroll Analysis for 2011 Fiscal Year. This does not include any overtime that is given to employees.
City Manager the former city engineer is paid
Salary -$ 114,770.96
Employer Paid retirement $ 20, 122.22
Social Security $ 8779.98
Employer Paid Ins $ 7876.59
TOTAL SALARY AND BENEFITS $ 151,549.75
you might want to read my editorial in the Navarro County Times for those local - go buy a paper. It is quite lengthy. I am a former investigator for the State of Texas and Medicare. Online copy may be posted in the next few days.
Taken from that editorial is about the retirement plan (except Fire/EMS are paid a lesser rate at last review)
"We would not know that the city manager increased the retirement benefits having the employee pay 7% while the city matches almost 18% but that is just the minimum required (phase in rate). The city should be matching over 20.5 %(full rate required). The unfunded liability is now 45% and will increase due to the city not matching at the full rate required. With the amount of retirement and social security benefits, the city is now paying more than 24% of each employee’s salary for retirement and that rate will probably increase over the next few years according to the TMRS letter. Nice retirement if you can get it. "
That letter from the TMRS for the City is posted on TMRS website. I talked to a city council person today who stated he was never told the amount that was being paid. He and others were told the employees would pay 7 % and the City Match was 14%
Like I said nice retirement if you can get it. I am a professor for Collin College in McKinney. I drive back and forth 3 days per week. Our retirement for PhD, Masters, Bachelors etc. is 6% we pay. Matched 6.4% We are not covered under social security which is common among many colleges and I assume some school districts.
I am not happy with city leadership and believe it is essential there is a major change with the direction. It would take a book, to tell everyone the dealings that have been going on for years. My uncle was a former chief of police and city commissioner. I have watched and learned for years
You should be our city manager!
Expose the "blood suckers"!
little birdie

Corsicana, TX

#153 Sep 4, 2011
Mr Wisdom wrote:
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You should be our city manager!
Expose the "blood suckers"!
uh huh

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