Coastlands rockin' with smiles as Vac...

Coastlands rockin' with smiles as Vacation Bible School lets loose Tuesday

There are 36 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Jun 18, 2008, titled Coastlands rockin' with smiles as Vacation Bible School lets loose Tuesday. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

Hanna Long and Elena Robinson wait in line for their turn to run through the blow up play ground while attending Coastlands Vacation Bible School on Tuesday June 17.

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Bess

United States

#1 Jun 18, 2008
Excellent. Just what we need. Cult-ish christian sects who actually believe in "speaking in tongues" (glossolalia -- http://skepdic.com/glossol.html ) and other hogwash warping the minds of youth.

I'm glad there's people out there that want to help today's children. In and of itself, that's a very commendable thing. But do we really need to be brain-washing them in this religious propaganda and superstition? I think not.
William Scott

Hayward, CA

#2 Jun 18, 2008
Always heartwarming to hear that full-immersion indoctrination into irrational belief in imaginary deities and sky-fairies is something to celebrate and constitutes a legitimate news item in the Senile.

With science education in California ranked dead last, behind Mississippi and Alabama, maybe a vacation skeptical empiricist school might be a slightly less paleolithic endeavor.
trisha0790

Boulder Creek, CA

#3 Jun 18, 2008
Bess wrote:
Excellent. Just what we need. Cult-ish christian sects who actually believe in "speaking in tongues" (glossolalia -- http://skepdic.com/glossol.html ) and other hogwash warping the minds of youth.
I'm glad there's people out there that want to help today's children. In and of itself, that's a very commendable thing. But do we really need to be brain-washing them in this religious propaganda and superstition? I think not.
What the heck are you talking about????? Where does "speaking in tongues" come into play with this article????
GET A LIFE!!!!!!
Mom

San Francisco, CA

#4 Jun 18, 2008
Four days into summer break...give me free childcare and I'll send my kids to Satin's summer soul snatching camp. Wait, I think that has already happened.
Hypocrisy

United States

#5 Jun 18, 2008
If anyone but white Christians did this it would be called indoctrination into a cult. If muslims did it we'd be outraged and call it terrorist training and if mexicans did it we (especially this place)would call it an invasion.

If new agers did it we would just roll our eyes and call it Santa Cruz. It's sad that so many people need the crutch of an invisible sky daddy.
Citizen

San Francisco, CA

#6 Jun 18, 2008
Sounds like "Magic Grandpa Day Camp" is trying to mask itself as outdoor education. Here's today's lesson: "Everything you see is as it always was and is as it always will be...so let's trash the beach!"

Seriously though, it's the great lack of understanding of our connection and interdepndence on natural systems that has gotten us into the environmental catastrophe that we now face. This lack of understanding is born of the fact that most religions put humans in the center of the universe when actually we are a mere speck.

How about giving these kids a real outdoor science camp experience so they leave with more respect for their environment and their actual place in the universe.

Such realizations can be more magical and mystifying than any fairy tale about a magical grandpa, his dead son and a freakin' GHOST who are all watching your every move waiting to punish you eternally if you slip up....because they love you :-)

Stop mental torture of kids!
Way to go

Fairfield, CA

#8 Jun 18, 2008
I really appreciate this article and what the Coastlands is doing for the kids today. Better this than something else. Looking at the picture tells me kids are having FUN. At the end what matters is the smile and happy face of a child.
Post Modern

United States

#9 Jun 18, 2008
Wow! The dogmatic, closed minded, anti-religious ignorance shines in the above comments. And Christians are called intolerant?
hypocrite

United States

#10 Jun 18, 2008
Post Modern - would you feel the same way if it were a Muslim camp? If you would be fine with that and show that level of tolerance then you aren't a hypocrite. If it would bother you then it would seem that the shoe fits.
trisha070

Boulder Creek, CA

#11 Jun 18, 2008
hypocrite wrote:
Post Modern - would you feel the same way if it were a Muslim camp? If you would be fine with that and show that level of tolerance then you aren't a hypocrite. If it would bother you then it would seem that the shoe fits.
Oooooooh! Children learning about Christian principles such as love, peace, forgiveness and kindness - such horror!!!! And what about the parents??? Quick, someone call Child Protective Services before it catches on and we all start being NICE to each other!!!!!!!
hypocrite

United States

#12 Jun 18, 2008
Is there any chance the you could spare me the histrionics and hyperbole and just answer the question? Would you be ok with a camp here that taught children Muslim principles?
Post Modern

United States

#13 Jun 18, 2008
Hypocrite, 1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
Wrong use of the word. There are, should be such Muslim camps that teach peace, love and tolerance.
hypocrite

United States

#14 Jun 18, 2008
Then the shoe doesn't fit - that's nice to hear.
trisha070

Boulder Creek, CA

#15 Jun 18, 2008
hypocrite wrote:
Is there any chance the you could spare me the histrionics and hyperbole and just answer the question? Would you be ok with a camp here that taught children Muslim principles?
Hello - I chose to reply to your post because it was the last one in line. Personally, I do not know what Muslim principles are. Christianity is the only religion I've been exposed to. But if it is a popular religion then there are probably Muslim camps throughout the world.
I honestly don't know why you are so upset but if I've offended you then I am truly sorry. How can I make it up to you?
Post Modern

United States

#16 Jun 18, 2008
We need to disarm the fights between the religions; we have so much in common. The ones who don’t have spiritual interest should also chill and do some thinking about tolerance. Most Christians are not “the religious right”. People use that label often out of laziness and buy into most of what they read instead of engaging in a real conversation with someone of faith.
Sanity rules

San Mateo, CA

#17 Jun 18, 2008
Vacation bible school is neither a vacation or school.

I cannot believe that in the 21st century people still rely on the crutch of mythical beings to help them cope with reality. I feel like the explorer who found the lost tribe, who was worshiping the sun, so it would continue rising in the west.

Amazing!
lower ocean local

Aptos, CA

#18 Jun 18, 2008
Bess wrote:
Excellent. Just what we need. Cult-ish christian sects who actually believe in "speaking in tongues" (glossolalia -- http://skepdic.com/glossol.html ) and other hogwash warping the minds of youth.
I'm glad there's people out there that want to help today's children. In and of itself, that's a very commendable thing. But do we really need to be brain-washing them in this religious propaganda and superstition? I think not.
you are so hateful, see everyone tells christians to be tolerant of everything and everyone, but when we just try to be christians, hateful people like you just have to say something.......christophobe
lower ocean local

Aptos, CA

#19 Jun 18, 2008
Hypocrisy wrote:
If anyone but white Christians did this it would be called indoctrination into a cult. If muslims did it we'd be outraged and call it terrorist training and if mexicans did it we (especially this place)would call it an invasion.
If new agers did it we would just roll our eyes and call it Santa Cruz. It's sad that so many people need the crutch of an invisible sky daddy.
yes, hypocracy indeed, yet christians are supposed to be tolerant of you, and everything you believe and like, yet jerks like you cannot resist taking a poke at christians any chance you get, who is the real hypocrite?? you are!!!there is a hare krishna camp here, several bhudist camps, and all sorts of various things going on all over this town, yet you have to bag on christians. just shut up.
lower ocean local

Aptos, CA

#20 Jun 18, 2008
Post Modern wrote:
We need to disarm the fights between the religions; we have so much in common. The ones who don’t have spiritual interest should also chill and do some thinking about tolerance. Most Christians are not “the religious right”. People use that label often out of laziness and buy into most of what they read instead of engaging in a real conversation with someone of faith.
thanks for the voice of reason, while i indeed have conservative values on a personal level, i do not believe in the war on people who do not share the values i have, that being said, i am tired of being hated on for sharing what i believe, the hare krishnas share, the muslims do, the bhudists do, all on pacific avenue, even dianetics does. but if i want to share my beliefs i'm intolerant???
naw, you guys are intolerant of christians.
lower ocean local

Aptos, CA

#21 Jun 18, 2008
Citizen wrote:
Sounds like "Magic Grandpa Day Camp" is trying to mask itself as outdoor education. Here's today's lesson: "Everything you see is as it always was and is as it always will be...so let's trash the beach!"
Seriously though, it's the great lack of understanding of our connection and interdepndence on natural systems that has gotten us into the environmental catastrophe that we now face. This lack of understanding is born of the fact that most religions put humans in the center of the universe when actually we are a mere speck.
How about giving these kids a real outdoor science camp experience so they leave with more respect for their environment and their actual place in the universe.
Such realizations can be more magical and mystifying than any fairy tale about a magical grandpa, his dead son and a freakin' GHOST who are all watching your every move waiting to punish you eternally if you slip up....because they love you :-)
Stop mental torture of kids!
you have no idea what is taught at this camp, so shut up. by the way christians are taught to take good care of the earth that god has given us, to be good stewards. actually christianity does not teach that you are going to hell if you screw up. it teaches that jesus payed the way for all of us, because we all are screw ups. that is what we mean, when we say, that we are only human. everyone screws up. even you. if you say that you dont, you are the real hypocrite. yet jerks like you, tend to spout off about how bad christians are, and how those christians think they are soo perfect. you know nothing about christianity. just shut up, maybe you will learn something

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