County inches closer to putting new f...

County inches closer to putting new fire tax on ballot

There are 14 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Sep 16, 2010, titled County inches closer to putting new fire tax on ballot. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

The campaign for a new tax to boost county fire service got its unofficial start this week.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Santa Cruz Sentinel.

Cut Some Costs

United States

#1 Sep 16, 2010
"The Board of Supervisors approved $63,500 for political consultant TBWB Strategies of San Francisco to assist with "public education" about fire funding issues in rural communities."

Oh Brother - That is your first problem...you are still spending too much money.
Soquel Local

Hollister, CA

#2 Sep 16, 2010
Fire fighters are making six figure plus salaries and retire with full salaries and benefits at 50 years old. Now they want more money!!! I say, fire them all and rehire non-union fire fighters at half the pay. This is a job that requires only a six week fire academy course and no college education. Enough with throwing away tax dollars on pampered, stupid fire fighters.
My vote

Capitola, CA

#3 Sep 16, 2010
My vote will be "NO". Why do liberal socialists think raising taxes is the answer to everything?
If You Need Money

Santa Cruz, CA

#4 Sep 16, 2010
Lower your salaries, pensions, and perks!
Inky2

Martinez, CA

#5 Sep 16, 2010
This measure is DOA. No more taxes, stop spending. Let's see, start with the rail purchase and guess what, you have you have your million.
STINGER

Oakland, CA

#7 Sep 16, 2010
NO, NO, NO!!!!!!!!!!

Get a clue. As rural people we get virtually nothing from the County anyway. Water, roads ? We pay for our own.
uh Clem

United States

#8 Sep 16, 2010
If fire protection is a priority -- and I think it is -- then fund it instead of lesser programs from the money you already take. Or we will vote you the F out of office. Simple.
Who is Stupid

Oakland, CA

#9 Sep 16, 2010
Soquel Local wrote:
Fire fighters are making six figure plus salaries and retire with full salaries and benefits at 50 years old. Now they want more money!!! I say, fire them all and rehire non-union fire fighters at half the pay. This is a job that requires only a six week fire academy course and no college education. Enough with throwing away tax dollars on pampered, stupid fire fighters.
It is not firefighters who are asking for money but the county who is funding fire protection for an area that is not paying for it. If you are against a tax, say your against the tax and be done with it. But firefighters don't retire on full salaries and benefits at 50 as you claim. You are the one who is pampered as you cast false and misleading drivel against some of the most giving people in society. Your character assasinations only go to show how stupid and jealous you are.
Boulder Bob

United States

#10 Sep 16, 2010
The mind simply boggles at the incredible arrogance of Neal Coonerty and Susan Mauriello to suggest that the public ought to be "educated" to think that more county funds are needed "to take on the huge [wildland] fires" which are the state's responsibility. Such a high level of disingenuousness can only be called lying.

Since: Jul 08

Windsor, CA

#11 Sep 16, 2010
****Santa Cruz County Scam Alert****

These government scammers would tax oxygen if you let them.
John Galt

Santa Cruz, CA

#12 Sep 16, 2010
The planning for a tax or fee increase has been underway for over a year.

If it were announced that a decision had actually been made to seek a fee increase, then the expense of a “public education” program just might be considered to be an illegal use of public funds for electioneering purposes.

A “public opinion poll” taken earlier in the year at a cost approaching $30,000 is thought to indicate that a fee increase for fire services MIGHT be approved if voters are properly “educated” in advance of the vote.

See: http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ci_15019860...

Most importantly, a tax or fee increase is NOT NEEDED to properly fund County Fire. The needed funds are already in the hands of the County.

In 1993, the voters of the State and of Santa Cruz County approved Proposition 172, a one-half cent sales tax that, we were told, would provide the needed funds for Public Safety including FIRE SERVICES.

The text of Proposition 172 may be found at:
http://holmes.uchastings.edu/cgi-bin/starfind...

Santa Cruz County expects to receive just over $13,000,000 (thirteen million) dollars in Proposition 172 Public Safety funds this year (down from just over sixteen million in 2005/2006).

See: http://sccounty01.co.santa-cruz.ca.us/prop_bu...

The problem is that the County chooses to NOT FUND fire services from Proposition 172 funds to any significant extent. Of the 13 Million for Public Safety this year, NONE of those funds are allocated to the Fire Service. Over the past 13 years, a minuscule portion of Proposition 172 Public Safety funds has gone to Fire Service.

The 2007-2008 County Grand Jury concluded that:
“Proposition 172 funds seem disproportionately distributed”.

See “What is County Fire”, the Grand Jury report located at:
http://www.co.santa-cruz.ca.us/grandjury/GJ20...

We were promised, if we voted for Proposition 172, then funding would be available for Fire Services. That did not happen.

The County needs to save the “education” money, scrap any fee increase plans and deliver on the promise of Proposition 172.
Ginnifer Squirrels

Santa Cruz, CA

#13 Sep 17, 2010
Oh golly gee, neat, can I rite about all this fire stuff?
Mark Farquaharharhar

Santa Cruz, CA

#14 Sep 17, 2010
It is so frustrating that Supv. Coonerty still does not know that Cal Fire fights wildland fires throughout the state, and that city fire departments, county fire departments, local fire districts, and volunteer fire companies are responsible for local fire fighting for structures, medical emergencies, and accidents. Any CSA 48 tax increase will have nothing, REPEAT--> NOTHING, to do with fighting wildland fires, which is Cal Fire's responsibility. Cal Fire is funded by state taxes.

In our County, "County Fire CSA 48" hires Cal Fire at great expense to act as the "County Fire CSA 48" firefighters in the months when the "fire season" is not open state wide, about Oct through May. County Fire CSA 48 coordinates the local volunteer fire companies.

Supv. Coonerty, please read and learn this.
Mark Farquaharharhar

Santa Cruz, CA

#15 Sep 17, 2010
..... and for the above educational piece, that will be $63,500 please....

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