Judge overturns California's ban on s...

Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Dec 08

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#186031 Apr 1, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
They knew the answer then, you dolt. DOMA was a slick (yet heinous) political maneuver to out-flank a Constitutional Amendment movement. Hawaii almost legalized gay marriage and Congress had a hissy fit. It will have been SO much easier to overturn DOMA than to repeal a Constitutional Amendment. Most of those politicians were lawyers... they knew damn well the federal government has no business passing a FEDERAL law codifiying marriage discrimination into law. It bought them time. Looks like you'll need a few more decades for you to adapt.
They asked the Justice Department about DOMA's constitutionality because they wanted to do the right thing. Don't you think Vice President Biden acted in good faith, when he voted to enact DOMA?

BTW, each time the Justice Department replied DOMA is constitutional.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#186032 Apr 1, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I donít have a religion, I am not bound by any kind of faith at all, someone shows me actual evidence, that has been through extensive peer review and I will happily take it into consideration.
You can go back to your magic tree, talking snake, and rib woman
You are bound by a huge fairy tale, one that requires a bigger faith then the Historical Fact of Jesus Christ walking the earth. Your peer review are other puddle of crud believers, a group...a religious organization. I don't have the faith to believe in the puddle of crud, don't push that on our kids today.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#186033 Apr 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Big D tries to change the subject to religion all the time. He's a fanatic when it comes to religion.
True and notice the gays that also believe in a higher power like "Veryvermillion" won't take a stand for God because of D's stance on SSM. We see the greater importance V. Please don't give me the stirring the pot lecture, I know that for me, I choose God.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#186035 Apr 1, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>What a dumbass
I agree. Big D certainly is a dumb ass.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#186036 Apr 1, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>You are bound by a huge fairy tale, one that requires a bigger faith then the Historical Fact of Jesus Christ walking the earth. Your peer review are other puddle of crud believers, a group...a religious organization. I don't have the faith to believe in the puddle of crud, don't push that on our kids today.
If Big D pushes that crap on my kids I will stand up and smite him and declare victory for truth, justice and the American way! Like Superman!

Always cracks me up when he gets emotional and says dopey stuff like that. Reminds me of the old Superman TV show's opening.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#186038 Apr 1, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>True and notice the gays that also believe in a higher power like "Veryvermillion" won't take a stand for God because of D's stance on SSM. We see the greater importance V. Please don't give me the stirring the pot lecture, I know that for me, I choose God.
Many also fear the great Rose_NoHo's disapproval. She's almost as hateful as Big D when it comes to religion.

And of course old Jizzybird/Apollo911 or whatever with his bowl of spaghetti that flies doesn't understand the irony.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#186039 Apr 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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If Big D pushes that crap on my kids I will stand up and smite him and declare victory for truth, justice and the American way! Like Superman!
Always cracks me up when he gets emotional and says dopey stuff like that. Reminds me of the old Superman TV show's opening.
We do teach science in schools, I am even invited to a few on specific aspects of science. I have worked with schools and even some church groups on Astronomy

Come on over, stand up and smite me ( chuckle ) you may be in for a bit of a shock when you try.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#186040 Apr 1, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>You are bound by a huge fairy tale, one that requires a bigger faith then the Historical Fact of Jesus Christ walking the earth. Your peer review are other puddle of crud believers, a group...a religious organization. I don't have the faith to believe in the puddle of crud, don't push that on our kids today.
You are free to believe in the magic tree, rib woman and talking snake all you like, this is America and I will treat you with the exact same respect I treat volcano worshipers and Scientologists
.

As long as you donít try to toss any virgins into volcanos, or deny same sex couples rights, but when you politicize your religion, you are open to fire from every direction. You have lost your innocence and have demoted your belief system into a political party... like Tea Baggers
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#186041 Apr 1, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>No that would be you.
No it's you Jizzybirdy you silly jackass!

We missed your dumb ass. Welcome back.

P.S. Sgt. Friday really said "All we want are the facts, ma'am". Not "Just the facts" you dope.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#186042 Apr 1, 2013
Big D wrote:
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We do teach science in schools, I am even invited to a few on specific aspects of science. I have worked with schools and even some church groups on Astronomy
Come on over, stand up and smite me ( chuckle ) you may be in for a bit of a shock when you try.
I'm a retired research geologist telescope guy. But that's as irrelevant as your hobby is.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#186043 Apr 1, 2013
Big D wrote:
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You are free to believe in the magic tree, rib woman and talking snake all you like, this is America and I will treat you with the exact same respect I treat volcano worshipers and Scientologists
Gee thanks. But no one asked for your permission.

Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#186044 Apr 1, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
Did anybody see the Jerry Springer episode today? I was just watching it, and that right there is why I think same sex relations are gross. You have guys who dress and act like girls, and girls who look and dress and act like guys. Total trash!!!!
So you base your opinions off Jerry Springer? A show where everyone knows its scripted and fake. That's sad you think it's real.

Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#186045 Apr 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>Big D tries to change the subject to religion all the time. He's a fanatic when it comes to religion.
Why can't anyone understand the decision the courts are making is based on the constitution and should have nothing to do with religion.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#186046 Apr 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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I'm a retired research geologist telescope guy. But that's as irrelevant as your hobby is.
It is a hobby I am most active in, and other studies I am involved in also relate to geology as well, I have been asked to speak on Physical anthropology, but it has been a while.

You donít think you are putting my interests down by calling them hobbies do you? LOL, not at all... I actually promote science, because I enjoy it. It isnít a put down at all, I have never claimed to be a professional
Big D

Modesto, CA

#186047 Apr 1, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
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Why can't anyone understand the decision the courts are making is based on the constitution and should have nothing to do with religion.
Because their objection is not based on the constitution, and is why they are failing ( in the long term )

Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#186048 Apr 1, 2013
Isn't this America where we are freedoms of Religion allows us to believe what we want. Yet we should base laws that apply to everyone off of one single religion. That's just dumb.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#186049 Apr 1, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
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Why can't anyone understand the decision the courts are making is based on the constitution and should have nothing to do with religion.
Agree. Big D won't stop being off topic and spewing his hate for religion.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#186050 Apr 1, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
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Why can't anyone understand the decision the courts are making is based on the constitution and should have nothing to do with religion.
Because those people do not believe in the ideals of the U.S. Constitution, nor support them. If they did, we wouldn't be having this argument.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#186051 Apr 1, 2013
Not just a single religion, all of the holy texts from EVERY religion describe marriage as male/female.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#186052 Apr 1, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Not quite. I never said same sex sexual behavior is new. Quite the contrary. However despite its existence, it has not translated into SSM across time and place. If it did, would this debate be necessary? No, SSM would already b part of our culture.
Just like the question that was asked about marriage in general--whether or not it is a cultural constraint something-or-other--I believe that same-sex couples have been "marrying" one another since the beginning.

Just because it MIGHT not have been widely recognized legally, socially, religiously DOES NOT mean that same-gender couples haven't been having their own "marriages" (long-term monogamous relationships) since the beginning.

Many of us have created life-long relationships that not have been called "marriage", but that's only because the people around us wouldn't allow us to call it "marriage".

For all practical purposes the relationships that we have engaged in for the 11,000 years that we know same-sex people have been documented to have been on the planet, there have been "marriages" in that couples have done everything else that opposite sex couples have done; including having children--either through adoption or by way of a surrogate.

There's that saying, "If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck; then it's a duck".

So if same-sex couples have been pairing up monogamously throughout history (as they have now), then their relationships HAVE BEEN, per se, same-sex marriages--at least to the couples who have engaged in them.

My ex and I were never married in front of a congregation, though we did go to San Francisco city hall and become registered as domestic partners--the closest we could legally come to marriage. We had a private ceremony just between the two of us and under the watchful eyes of God. I consider myself as having been married, even though you may not.

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