Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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veryvermilion wrote:
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"Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical " ( http://students.cis.uab.edu/keaira89/Statisti... )
So, with a full 86.7% of women who got abortions claiming a Christian affiliations, do you still believe that "Christians" won't have abortions?
You say that they would never have abortions and yet here are the figures that show differently. And there's always that "out" for them. You know, the one that allows them to abort a child who has mental or physical disabilities.
You've spent years on these forums telling us that gays are mentally deformed--genetic mistakes.
You're either being a liar or naïve when you say "Christians won't abort potentially gay fetuses."
I'm sorry, but a Christian would never kill an innocent person. If they did, they violate a fundamental principle of Christianity. A Christian woman killing her unborn child would be the worst of that truth.

You have made the assertion that many claim to be Christians and are not. I would suggest this is an example. Or do you disagree?

Moreover, I have never said homosexuals are mentally deformed. You lie. Again.

A true Christian will not murder an innocent child. For any reason.

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KiMare wrote:
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I blew your smoke away, and now you are farting more BS to cover your ass.
You claimed Christians would abort. They don't. You lied.
Christians abort.
Who do you think you are fooling?
BTW, do you think your parents wished they had aborted you?
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The fact of the matter is, the only hope for homosexual survival IS Christians! They have proved that over and over with the fight to protect any unborn child.
A child has 46 chromosomes.
How many do you have?
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None of this changes the fact that the proof keeps coming in that homosexuality is a sexual defect. Just as every culture has long sensed. Epi-marker mistakes will simply soon confirm the fact.
By the way, you have carpet burns on your ass.
Smirk.
What percentage of parents get an abortion when they find out their "child" is a monster mutation?
LOL!
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This should be an out rage! The voters of California have voted NO! Marriage is what! what dose it mean now ! GOD created marriage to, unite a man and a woman, history shows us in every culture marriage is holy. Well the bible dose say its going to get bad as Sodom and Gomorra. This proves it.

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http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/facts/reasonsabo...

Why Do Women Have Abortions? 
       - a statistical breakdown*
 
Responses listed as primary reason           
 
   Social Reasons (given as primary reason)
      - Feels unready for child/responsibility 25%
      - Feels she can't afford baby 23%
      - Has all the children she wants/Other family responsibilities 19%
      - Relationship problem/Single motherhood 8%
      - Feels she isn't mature enough 7%
      - Interference with education/career plans 4%
      - Parents/Partner wants abortion <1%
      - Other reasons <6.5%
     TOTAL: 93%
(Approx.)

   "Hard Cases" (given as primary reason)
      - Mother's Health 4%
      - Baby may have health problem 3%
      - Rape or Incest <0.5%
   
    TOTAL:
 

7%
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j roybal rb1 wrote:
This should be an out rage! The voters of California have voted NO! Marriage is what! what dose it mean now ! GOD created marriage to, unite a man and a woman, history shows us in every culture marriage is holy. Well the bible dose say its going to get bad as Sodom and Gomorra. This proves it.
God doesn't exist. The Constitution grants equal rights, even when that's not popular with knuckle draggers. And how can anybody over about 4 years old believe that Sodom and Gomorrah story!?

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God doesn't exist. The Constitution grants equal rights, even when that's not popular with knuckle draggers. And how can anybody over about 4 years old believe that Sodom and Gomorrah story!?
God does exist, you're proof he has a sense of humor. The Constitution has to be interpreted, and it treats naturalized citizens differently than American born, as it relates to qualification for the presidency.

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KiMare wrote:
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I'm sorry, but a Christian would never kill an innocent person.
LOL! You idiot! Guess The Crusades never happened.
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If they did, they violate a fundamental principle of Christianity. A Christian woman killing her unborn child would be the worst of that truth.
You have made the assertion that many claim to be Christians and are not. I would suggest this is an example. Or do you disagree?
Moreover, I have never said homosexuals are mentally deformed. You lie. Again.
A true Christian will not murder an innocent child. For any reason.
Do monster mutations count?
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Looks like another RNC, GOP, Republican and Tea Party member controlled city has paid the big price, AGAIN - those people just steal from the average tax payer left and right and righ in front of the police.

$860 million in overcharges are owed to some 270,000 Ohio businesses.

Judge rules that state workers' compensation fund ran up $860 million in overcharges over a decade.
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Oh please... you call this a reasoned argument???
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That is not a fact, that is inaccurate.
Pipe down, lesbo! You're letting your scissoring urges dictate your reasoning and logic.

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God doesn't exist. The Constitution grants equal rights, even when that's not popular with knuckle draggers. And how can anybody over about 4 years old believe that Sodom and Gomorrah story!?
yaYaya, we all evolved from a puddle of crud. lol. If you knew anything about science and the odds of that happening you would change your tune.

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Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts,
Records and judicial Proceedings of every other State.
You are misinterpreting what is meant by the Full Faith and Credit Clause. The SCOTUS has already explained why a resident of one State cannot move to another and compel that State to accept laws from another.

This has held true for Concealed Carry Permits, Nursing and Medical Licenses, Drivers Licenses, Insurance Licenses, Car Insurance.....

I could go on for pages, but why bother?

Just because something is legal in one State doesn't mean you can do it in another. The is the entire foundation of our Republic, States are in a sense individual countries.

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Apollo11911 wrote:
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Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts,
Records and judicial Proceedings of every other State.
More on this if you care to read.

This is from Yale Law.

http://www.law.yale.edu/news/4174.htm

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<quoted text>yaYaya, we all evolved from a puddle of crud. lol. If you knew anything about science and the odds of that happening you would change your tune.
The odds that lightning will strike a specific point on the planet are quite small. The odds that lightning will strike are significantly larger.

The odds that a life sustaining planet will occur in a specific solar system in a specific galaxy are quite small. Throw in the large size of the univers and the significan number of galaxies and planetary systems and the odds become a much lower hurdle to cross.

If you knew anything about life and the role chemical reactions play in it along with the number of chemical reactions that take place quite spontaneously you'd admit that just about anything is possible and there is no need for a god, gods, or God to have any concern over any matters as trivial as the crap we throw at each other.

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HorderS wrote:
Once again we have the (stupid) RNC, GOP, Republican and Tea Party wackO's to thank for the latest US Government Shut Down
Yeah, it has nothing to do with the DNC.

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Pietro Armando wrote:
Akpilot
Thought you might find this similar to your argument.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george...
DOMA is an abuse of federalism
By George F. Will,
“[U]nder the Constitution, the regulation and control of marital and family relationships are reserved to the States.”
— U.S. Supreme Court,
Sherrer v. Sherrer (1948)
The Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) is an exception to the rule that a law’s title is as uninformative about the law’s purpose as the titles of Marx Brothers movies (“Duck Soup,”“Horse Feathers,”“Animal Crackers”) are about those movies’ contents. DOMA’s purpose is precisely what its title says. Which is why many conservatives and liberals should be uneasy Wednesday when the Supreme Court hears arguments about its constitutionality.
Conservatives who supported DOMA should, after 17years’ reflection, want the act overturned because its purpose is constitutionally improper. Liberals who want the act struck down should be discomfited by the reason the court should give when doing this.
DOMA, which in 1996 passed the House 342 to 67 and the Senate 85 to 14, defines marriage for the purpose of federal law as a legal union between one man and one woman. Because approximately 1,100 federal laws pertain to marriage, DOMA’s defenders argue that Congress merely exercised its power to define a term used in many statutes. But before 1996, federal statutes functioned without this definition, which obviously was adopted for the “defense” of marriage against state policies involving a different definition.“Before DOMA,” an amicus brief submitted by a group of federalism scholars notes,“federal law took state law as it found it.”
The question now is whether DOMA is “necessary and proper” for the exercise of a constitutionally enumerated congressional power. There is no such power pertaining to marriage. This subject is a state responsibility, a tradition established and validated by what can be called constitutional silence: The 10th Amendment says,“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
The amicus brief takes no position on same-sex marriage as social policy. Rather, it addresses a question that should obviate the need to address whether DOMA violates the constitutional guarantee of equal protection of the laws. The threshold question is: Does the federal government have the power that DOMA’s preamble proclaims, the power “to define and protect the institution of marriage”?
DOMA’s obvious purpose is, as the scholars’ brief says,“to reject state governments’ policy judgments.” Its purpose is to endorse, and to some extent enforce, the traditional understanding of marriage. The scholars’ brief says:
“Congress may regulate in this area to the extent necessary to further its enumerated powers. But it may not simply reject the states’ policy judgments as if it had the same authority to make domestic-relations law as they do. That is the difference between a government with a general police power and a government of limited and enumerated powers.”
Ernest A. Young of the Duke Law School, the principal author of the federalism brief, says the operation of DOMA cannot help but burden states because “federal and state law are pervasively intertwined.” To understand the harm that could be done by an unlimited federal power to define the terms of domestic-relations law, Young recalls when a few states, venturing beyond the national consensus, began experimenting with no-fault divorce. Suppose, Young says, Congress passed a statute refusing recognition, for purposes of federal law, of any divorce where neither party made a showing of fault:
Aren't Judge-Its just so amusing. You have 7 negative for a post which completely explains why DOMA is unconstitutional.

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Rose_NoHo wrote:
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And the link you provided proved you lied!
That's what's so funny.
And you don't have the 'nads to admit you made a mistake.
That's what's so pathetic.
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You claim I'm not relevant, but lady, you protest way too much!
LOLSER!
I almost feel bad making fun of you Rose, I feel like I shouldn't pile on to what the rest of the world already does to you.

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The odds that lightning will strike a specific point on the planet are quite small. The odds that lightning will strike are significantly larger.
The odds that a life sustaining planet will occur in a specific solar system in a specific galaxy are quite small. Throw in the large size of the univers and the significan number of galaxies and planetary systems and the odds become a much lower hurdle to cross.
If you knew anything about life and the role chemical reactions play in it along with the number of chemical reactions that take place quite spontaneously you'd admit that just about anything is possible and there is no need for a god, gods, or God to have any concern over any matters as trivial as the crap we throw at each other.
Isn't it interesting that we will immediately dismiss the possibility of a "god" because of scientific advances? Advances which include the creation of life. And advancement which must be assumed to be a FIRST if one is to dismiss a "GOD".

Sure, it may not be the "god" of the bible, but I find it quite naive to think there is NO possibility that in fact, another more intelligent life-form, a "god", didn't come along and kick start the human race much the same as we are doing today.

Think of the things we build and create, is it possible we aren't the "big man" on the block? Perhaps we are simply living in a big ant farm as entertainment for our "god"?

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God does exist, you're proof he has a sense of humor. The Constitution has to be interpreted, and it treats naturalized citizens differently than American born, as it relates to qualification for the presidency.
Are you serious? You’re comparing the rules regarding qualifying for POTUS to the rights of Gay Americans. It amuses me to watch bigots attempt to make a logical argument against Gay Marriage. But, heaven forbid (pun intended) your rights be infringed upon. That’s when you all start whining like little biotches. What will you nitwits come up with next? Just admit it, you are weirded-out by Gay people and that clouds your judgment. In other words you’re a bigot.

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akpilot wrote:
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Isn't it interesting that we will immediately dismiss the possibility of a "god" because of scientific advances? Advances which include the creation of life. And advancement which must be assumed to be a FIRST if one is to dismiss a "GOD".
Sure, it may not be the "god" of the bible, but I find it quite naive to think there is NO possibility that in fact, another more intelligent life-form, a "god", didn't come along and kick start the human race much the same as we are doing today.
Think of the things we build and create, is it possible we aren't the "big man" on the block? Perhaps we are simply living in a big ant farm as entertainment for our "god"?
He’d be roflhao, at you.
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More tea-party propaganda, BS

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