Patton State Hospital employees picke...

Patton State Hospital employees picket furloughs

There are 15 comments on the San Bernardino County Sun story from Sep 2, 2009, titled Patton State Hospital employees picket furloughs. In it, San Bernardino County Sun reports that:

At least 100 people blew whistles and toted signs to oppose state-imposed furloughs outside of Patton State Hospital on Wednesday.

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Old Skool

Redlands, CA

#1 Sep 3, 2009
This is BS, they are just upset that they are not getting the over time that they use to get. I know it hurts finacially, but its a RECESSION. People be happy you have a job.
Dave in Crafton Hills

Yorba Linda, CA

#2 Sep 3, 2009
If these folks think they're so valuable, let them find employment somewhere else. They'll soon realize how good they have it at Patton, and they'll stop whining.

Lots of unemployed people would be happy to work at Patton for a whole lot less than we're paying the current crew.
Tim Monteil-Doucette

Upland, CA

#3 Sep 3, 2009
What is unfair is that although the employees work, they do get a furlough day later, to be scheduled in lieu or in addition to vacation, sick, etc. The real problem, and I think the jist of the gripe is that with employee hiring freezes and minimum staffing, they are not getting any leaves approved and so they feel they are working for free.
Deborah

Moreno Valley, CA

#4 Sep 3, 2009
I am a psych tech and was at the picketing yesterday. I agree, many unemployeed people would be happy to do our jobs and after years of college, they can. We are professional people who chose to go to school to allow ourselves and our families the luxuries education brings. I wrote the governor explaining what the cuts have done to us and I am also posting it here to give all a better understanding of our position.....
Hello, My name is Deborah Contorelli and I am a Psychiatric Technician with 35 years of service for the state.
Over the years I have seen many unfair acts toward my profession to "help the state solve its budget crisis." We have had reductions in pay, months of IOUs in place of paychecks, ridiculous increases in our share of employee benefits and many years with no cost of living increases. None however that threatened my ability to support myself and my family.
With your implementation of furloughs, 3 of them, I can no longer afford my home, or pay my bills. Governor, this is a $1200.00 a month decrease in pay! I realize to you this may not seem like much, but to myself and the majority of my co-workers, it is the difference of maintaining our homes vs. foreclosure. We have suffered for several months now and the effects of the furloughs are being realized by all of us, every day.
I work at Patton State Hospital, a forensic facility in which our population residing there is angry, hostile, verbally and physically abusive, threatning and very much in need of our services. Many times each day we are assaulted and our lives are threatened. We stand as the authority figures in the lives of people who have no respect for authority. As I was told by a patient, "Your life is not even worth a pack of cigarettes, and that is all I paid to have your ass snuffed out." These threats must be taken seriously as their mental illnesses justify anything they wish to justify. These people are there for the most terrible of crimes and the public would not be safe if we were not there and alert every day.
To say the least, it is difficult to be therapeutic to those we work with when all we have worked for is being taken away from us. Morale at our facility is down. Everyone is sad and very scared. You see, on a Psych Tech salary, before the furloughs, most of us survived on a paycheck-to-paycheck existence. We have little to put away in savings and what we do have is depleted by now. We are out of options to maintain our lives. We are unable to secure a second job due to our rotating days off and mandatory overtime, which we are unable to refuse for a second job. We are tired.
Governor, we elected you to aid us in providing a better California. I did vote for you myself; however, you have let us down. Terribly. We the people, by the people, for the people. Does this mean anything to you? We elected you to represent us! Certainly not to hurt us so deeply. I realize we have an incredible debt but shouldn`t the burden fall to all of the people of California to assist with a remedy? If that were the case, a small amount would be felt by all, instead of the people who work directly for you feeling it for the rest of the state. We have been a faithful group, and tolerant of previous budget issues. Haven`t we given above and beyond what was fair already? more to follow
Deborah

Moreno Valley, CA

#5 Sep 3, 2009
Here is the remainder of my letter..........
I am not going to quote laws to you and the violations we feel you have made by implementing the takeaways. All this and more, I am sure you have heard. I want to appeal to you as a human being, a man, a representative of the people, to reevaluate what you have so unfairly put on our plates. We work hard for our money in a dangerous environment to allow ourselves a portion of the American dream. It certainly is tragic to watch it slip away from us after years of doing the right thing, paying taxes, and being law-abiding citizens.
In closing I wish to say that I do not expect a response from you as I am sure this e-mail will not even be read. It is sad that you probably will never know the heartache that we "state employees" are experiencing at your hand. If by some slight chance someone does read this, thank you for your time.-- Deborah Contorelli
Deborah

Moreno Valley, CA

#6 Sep 3, 2009
here is the remainder of the letter......
I am not going to quote laws to you and the violations we feel you have made by implementing the takeaways. All this and more, I am sure you have heard. I want to appeal to you as a human being, a man, a representative of the people, to reevaluate what you have so unfairly put on our plates. We work hard for our money in a dangerous environment to allow ourselves a portion of the American dream. It certainly is tragic to watch it slip away from us after years of doing the right thing, paying taxes, and being law-abiding citizens.

In closing I wish to say that I do not expect a response from you as I am sure this e-mail will not even be read. It is sad that you probably will never know the heartache that we "state employees" are experiencing at your hand. If by some slight chance someone does read this, thank you for your time.-- Deborah Contorelli





Deborah

Moreno Valley, CA

#7 Sep 3, 2009
I am a psych tech and was at the picketing yesterday. I agree, many unemployeed people would be happy to do our jobs and after years of college, they can. We are professional people who chose to go to school to allow ourselves and our families the luxuries education brings. I wrote the governor explaining what the cuts have done to us and I am also posting it here to give all a better understanding of our position.....
Hello, My name is Deborah Contorelli and I am a Psychiatric Technician with 35 years of service for the state.
Over the years I have seen many unfair acts toward my profession to "help the state solve its budget crisis." We have had reductions in pay, months of IOUs in place of paychecks, ridiculous increases in our share of employee benefits and many years with no cost of living increases. None however that threatened my ability to support myself and my family.
With your implementation of furloughs, 3 of them, I can no longer afford my home, or pay my bills. Governor, this is a $1200.00 a month decrease in pay! I realize to you this may not seem like much, but to myself and the majority of my co-workers, it is the difference of maintaining our homes vs. foreclosure. We have suffered for several months now and the effects of the furloughs are being realized by all of us, every day.
I work at Patton State Hospital, a forensic facility in which our population residing there is angry, hostile, verbally and physically abusive, threatning and very much in need of our services. Many times each day we are assaulted and our lives are threatened. We stand as the authority figures in the lives of people who have no respect for authority. As I was told by a patient, "Your life is not even worth a pack of cigarettes, and that is all I paid to have your ass snuffed out." These threats must be taken seriously as their mental illnesses justify anything they wish to justify. These people are there for the most terrible of crimes and the public would not be safe if we were not there and alert every day.
To say the least, it is difficult to be therapeutic to those we work with when all we have worked for is being taken away from us. Morale at our facility is down. Everyone is sad and very scared. You see, on a Psych Tech salary, before the furloughs, most of us survived on a paycheck-to-paycheck existence. We have little to put away in savings and what we do have is depleted by now. We are out of options to maintain our lives. We are unable to secure a second job due to our rotating days off and mandatory overtime, which we are unable to refuse for a second job. We are tired.
Governor, we elected you to aid us in providing a better California. I did vote for you myself; however, you have let us down. Terribly. We the people, by the people, for the people. Does this mean anything to you? We elected you to represent us! Certainly not to hurt us so deeply. I realize we have an incredible debt but shouldn`t the burden fall to all of the people of California to assist with a remedy? If that were the case, a small amount would be felt by all, instead of the people who work directly for you feeling it for the rest of the state. We have been a faithful group, and tolerant of previous budget issues. Haven`t we given above and beyond what was fair already?
Psych

Upland, CA

#8 Sep 8, 2009
If a three day forlough is costing you 1200.00 per month, then based on a twenty day work month, you are making 8000.00 per month. Gee,that could buy a really nice house. And with 35 years service your retirement is close to 80% or higher of your base salary. Gee, I am ready to step in and help the State for far less than that!
Bad Gummint

Lake Arrowhead, CA

#9 Sep 8, 2009
Deborah - take your retirement and leave. You will not only make the same for staying home, you might be able to get a job in the 'private sector', since you are so special. Take some co-workers with you.

You will also reduce the payroll at Patton and perhaps cut back on the furloughs. You could also stop the furloughs if 3 or 4 folks were laid off insteas.

Pick you poison.
PTPT

Fontana, CA

#10 May 27, 2010
Nope not EVEN NURSES MAKE $8000 A MONTH IN PATTON. PYSCH TECH ONLY MAKES $3000 A MONTH. THAT IS SO LITTLE CONSIDERING THEY STUDIED FOR THIS. AND CONSIDERING THEY WORK WITH THE MOST DANGEROUS PEOPLE.
Psych wrote:
If a three day forlough is costing you 1200.00 per month, then based on a twenty day work month, you are making 8000.00 per month. Gee,that could buy a really nice house. And with 35 years service your retirement is close to 80% or higher of your base salary. Gee, I am ready to step in and help the State for far less than that!
Andy99

La Quinta, CA

#12 May 27, 2010
A three day a month furlough for us = 10% pay cut and while that SUCKS - we are happy to have jobs.
The Truth

Dayton, OH

#13 May 27, 2010
Andy99 wrote:
A three day a month furlough for us = 10% pay cut and while that SUCKS - we are happy to have jobs.
not gov workers they think the are all entilted to no pay cuts and very generous retirement packages
mike

United States

#14 Mar 10, 2014
Deb, you really should'nt post your letter on this or any other site. All you will get is the same union bashing hate talk from ignorant and stupid, yes I said ignorant and stupid people who are jealous of title holders such as yourself who have worked hard to get where you are. That same entitlelment mentallity that affects all groups of poor undeserving under educated slobs with nothing better to do but wish they were where you are and would do it for less because they have done less with thier lives does nothing but insult your intelligence. Oh and just so you out there and you know who you are,dont have to look it up; stupid is knowing better but doing something you should not anyway and ignorant is not knowing any better......there you have it! For the sake of complexity there is the definition in laymens terms and yeah you might want to look those two words up.
Jill Mortensen

Yucaipa, CA

#15 Mar 14, 2014
Don't you think it's pretty ignorant to reply to a thread that is nearly 4 years old?
mike wrote:
Deb, you really should'nt post your letter on this or any other site. All you will get is the same union bashing hate talk from ignorant and stupid, yes I said ignorant and stupid people who are jealous of title holders such as yourself who have worked hard to get where you are. That same entitlelment mentallity that affects all groups of poor undeserving under educated slobs with nothing better to do but wish they were where you are and would do it for less because they have done less with thier lives does nothing but insult your intelligence. Oh and just so you out there and you know who you are,dont have to look it up; stupid is knowing better but doing something you should not anyway and ignorant is not knowing any better......there you have it! For the sake of complexity there is the definition in laymens terms and yeah you might want to look those two words up.
Mike

Perris, CA

#16 Mar 23, 2014
Well i guess that makes two of us lol!

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