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Renewed push to keep homeless out of Santa Cruz Dumpsters follows man's death

There are 325 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Jan 31, 2011, titled Renewed push to keep homeless out of Santa Cruz Dumpsters follows man's death. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

Stephen Parrish, the 54-year-old man found dead among flattened cardboard at the city's recycling center on Jan.

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Since: Feb 08

Santa Cruz

#1 Feb 1, 2011
I'm surprised that dumpsters aren't required to be locked. If nothing else, to prevent unwanted dumping.
Next the railroad tracks will have to be locked up to prevent inadvertent accidents there as well.
DBS

Santa Cruz, CA

#2 Feb 1, 2011
Why won't Robert Kahn-job, the idle-rich-trust-fund-multi-mil lionaire get out his checkbook and DO SOMETHING TO HELP SOMEONE???????

Him and BJ claim to be "homeless activists", but they never do ANYTHING that helps.

Making ludicrous demands, while refusing to contribute, doesn't accomplish ANYTHING!!!!

“Pearls before swine”

Since: Mar 08

Santa Cruz, CA.

#4 Feb 2, 2011
How we can have any kind of discussion of this man's unfortunate death without putting it in context with the lack of shelter in Santa Cruz.

Unless a person can line up between 3PM and 5PM, in a sober condition, and have photo-id, they may not use the National Guard Armory for shelter. The 46 spaces in the Paul Lee Loft are fully booked. Ditto the River Street Shelter.

So it is not unusual nor unexpected that some homeless people seek to sleep in recycling containers to keep dry, stay warm, and get some illegal sleep.

Also: the SCPD managed to trash the guys reputation even while his body was still warm and his name had not yet been released. See: http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ci_17167029

"Clark said the victim had a history with police, including drug offenses and disorderly conduct, and that he also had been a victim of theft and other crimes."

BECKY: This didn't pan out when his record was released after he was identified:

"For Parrish, who was 54, his contact with police shows just a sliver of a tumultuous life. He had been the victim of several crimes and also had been arrested, police said. He did not list an address when he was arrested in December on suspicion of being drunk in public, Clark said. Over the years, Parrish told police he was the victim of theft six times and the victim of battery once, according to police records.

BECKY: Sounds like the majority of contacts he had with police were to report a crime. No wonder he felt he needed to hide when he slept. He feared being victimized again.

CLARK has taken ONE arrest for being under the influence of alcohol to characterize this man as being a police problem (contacts with police? You mean when he REPORTED crimes!) This is to prevent the natural sympathy the public has for a man so desparate for shelter, he resorted to sleeping in a recycling container!

CLARK has previously (and falsely) claimed that a homeless man who hung himself died of "auto-erotic stimulation". That was not true.
DBS

Brisbane, CA

#5 Feb 2, 2011
Sure thing whackjob.

Maybe you can get the "Free Land Fairy" to make it all better.

And maybe you can ask the fairy for a nice,cozy retirement bridge as an added bonus!

Since: Feb 08

Santa Cruz

#6 Feb 2, 2011
When you just can't get your **** together, Santa Cruz is still one of the best places to do it. Which is why so many do just that. In any event, it is still a bad idea to sleep on the railroad tracks (even ours), sleep under trucks, on the freeway, and, I guess, dumpsters.
Oh, the rottweiler's doghouse is also a no no.
DBS

Brisbane, CA

#7 Feb 2, 2011
You're lying again lardass.

The SCPD stated that he had a "history of drug offenses". They did NOT print his entire record. You cannot judge anything about the "majority of contacts" when you have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA how many there were.

As usual, you are trying to pass your crackpot opinion as a "FACT", when you have NOTHING to back it up with.
Karen

Marina, CA

#8 Feb 2, 2011
Steve was a sweet man that would never harm a fly unless he was defending himself but he had a terrible problem with alcohol and he wasn't very coherent most of the time. I'm not sure how it all started and I can't remember for sure but I think he got a monthly SSI or SSDI check. By the time that I met him I don't think that he could have ever completely regained enough of his mental abilities to function normally even if he had been able to stop drinking. Like almost every other public inebriate he got rolled on a regular basis for whatever change or liquor that he had.

Unfortunately cardboard and recycling dumpsters are a highly attractive place to hide and sleep because they're warm and more or less clean. The whole thing is a tragedy but we shouldn't forget the poor driver who picked up that dumpster. He had no way of knowing, there was nothing that he could have done and this will probably haunt him forever.
Reality Check

Hayward, CA

#9 Feb 2, 2011
Becky Johnson wrote:
...Also: the SCPD managed to trash the guys reputation even while his body was still warm and his name had not yet been released. See: http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ci_17167029
"Clark said the victim had a history with police, including drug offenses and disorderly conduct, and that he also had been a victim of theft and other crimes."
BECKY: This didn't pan out when his record was released after he was identified:
"For Parrish, who was 54, his contact with police shows just a sliver of a tumultuous life. He had been the victim of several crimes and also had been arrested, police said. He did not list an address when he was arrested in December on suspicion of being drunk in public, Clark said. Over the years, Parrish told police he was the victim of theft six times and the victim of battery once, according to police records.
BECKY: Sounds like the majority of contacts he had with police were to report a crime. No wonder he felt he needed to hide when he slept. He feared being victimized again.
CLARK has taken ONE arrest for being under the influence of alcohol to characterize this man as being a police problem (contacts with police? You mean when he REPORTED crimes!) This is to prevent the natural sympathy the public has for a man so desparate for shelter, he resorted to sleeping in a recycling container!...
Becky, do you really think people read only your parsed comments? Do you think they didn't also read:
"...Corralitos resident Christina Parrish said her father suffered from drug and alcohol problems. She hadn't talked to him in 25 years..."

Do you realize how (even more) foolish this makes you look?
Buzz

Emeryville, CA

#10 Feb 2, 2011
BJ "NEVER TELL THE TRUTH" Johnson rants:
Becky Johnson wrote:
The police lie. The police lie. The police lie. I know all. I know all.
BJ, do you have a clue as to what an open cesspool Santa Cruz would become if it weren't for SCPD? Who did you run to when the horrible pear fairy fruited your tailpipe?

Santa Cruz police frequently are criticized for being too tolerant. If your bums carried on their behavior in Watsonville, Capitola or Scotts Valley you'd see far less tolerance. Santa Cruz is awakening to the fact that their progressive agenda has created problems that they are now addressing,albeit slowly.

“Pearls before swine”

Since: Mar 08

Santa Cruz, CA.

#11 Feb 2, 2011
KAREN WRITES: "By the time that I met him I don't think that he could have ever completely regained enough of his mental abilities to function normally even if he had been able to stop drinking. Like almost every other public inebriate he got rolled on a regular basis for whatever change or liquor that he had."

BECKY: So KAREN. Do you think he'd still be alive today if we had an open homeless campground?

“Pearls before swine”

Since: Mar 08

Santa Cruz, CA.

#12 Feb 2, 2011
BUZZ WRITES: "BJ, do you have a clue as to what an open cesspool Santa Cruz would become if it weren't for SCPD? Who did you run to when the horrible pear fairy fruited your tailpipe?"

BECKY: Please don't call me "BJ". I find it offensive. Please stop. Name-calling doesn't add to dialogue and personal attacks are quite out of place. I did file a report of vandalism with the SCPD, but they have yet to solve a single crime I've reported.

BUZZ WRITES: "Santa Cruz police frequently are criticized for being too tolerant. If your bums...

BECKY: Please don't call human beings "bums." It's literally dehumanizing. Homeless people are actually displaced former tenants. No homeless person in Santa Cruz claims the police are "too tolerant." Also, they aren't "mine" anymore than they are "yours".

BUZZ WRITES: "...carried on their behavior in Watsonville, Capitola or Scotts Valley you'd see far less tolerance. Santa Cruz is awakening to the fact that their progressive agenda has created problems that they are now addressing,albeit slowly."

BECKY: The "behavior" the SCPD (and Capitola police and the Scotts Valley PD) face when it comes to homeless people is sleeping out of doors, camping, carrying backpacks, sometimes begging, and having no money. The City of Santa Cruz has very stiff rules regarding these things and they DO enforce them!
Reality Check

Hayward, CA

#13 Feb 2, 2011
Becky Johnson wrote:
BUZZ WRITES: "BJ, do you have a clue as to what an open cesspool Santa Cruz would become if it weren't for SCPD? Who did you run to when the horrible pear fairy fruited your tailpipe?"
BECKY: Please don't call me "BJ". I find it offensive. Please stop. Name-calling doesn't add to dialogue and personal attacks are quite out of place...
BJ, your initials aren't 'name calling', they are your initials. If you don't like them, change them.

To quote a person from Topix,
"You have no authority to "make me stop." I have freedom of speech and freedom of the press. As long as I am not committing libel or slander, I have the right to express my opinion. Get used to it. We live in a free society."

And remember, I have asked you to refer to me as "Lord God King Reality Check, Master of the Universe and Savior of all mankind" I find it offensive when you use the abbreviation 'Reality Check'.

Since: Mar 09

United States

#15 Feb 2, 2011
BJ what have you and HUFF done to prevent this type of tragedy? Have you offered space in your yard or provided safety information? Any outreach campaigns to the most at risk homeless, letting them know where safer places to pass out may be? Where they can get help with their addictions or illnesses and get back into shelter?

Oh, that's right. You aren't a service provider, or even someone who points people in the direction of service providers. Your just a horrible person who uses people desperate for help to gain a little attention for yourself and the heck with them. How... icky.
Karen

Marina, CA

#16 Feb 2, 2011
Becky Johnson wrote:
KAREN WRITES: "By the time that I met him I don't think that he could have ever completely regained enough of his mental abilities to function normally even if he had been able to stop drinking. Like almost every other public inebriate he got rolled on a regular basis for whatever change or liquor that he had."
BECKY: So KAREN. Do you think he'd still be alive today if we had an open homeless campground?
Becky, he was a person and not fodder for your daily rants. Show some respect. His body is barely cold, you never knew him and you're using his tragedy for your own aims already.

Steve was a loner and didn't stay in the back 40 or shelter very often at all but I don't make a habit out of predicting the future or what might have happened in different circumstances. Maybe you should stop running off at the mouth and get that proposal written.

Since: Mar 09

United States

#17 Feb 2, 2011
Karen wrote:
<quoted text>
Becky, he was a person and not fodder for your daily rants. Show some respect. His body is barely cold, you never knew him and you're using his tragedy for your own aims already.
That's just the kind of person BJ is Karen. Heartless.
Craig

Palo Alto, CA

#19 Feb 2, 2011
Becky Johnson wrote:
BECKY: Please don't call human beings "bums." It's literally dehumanizing. Homeless people are actually displaced former tenants. No homeless person in Santa Cruz claims the police are "too tolerant." Also, they aren't "mine" anymore than they are "yours".
BECKY, in another topic just this morning you referred to homeless people as "hobos". If you're going to call people out on using certain names to describe people, maybe you should watch what you do.
not so fast

Gig Harbor, WA

#20 Feb 2, 2011
Craig wrote:
<quoted text>
BECKY, in another topic just this morning you referred to homeless people as "hobos". If you're going to call people out on using certain names to describe people, maybe you should watch what you do.
Definition fopr Hobo:

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A hobo was a member of a distinctive sub-culture of homeless, travelling workers in the United States during the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. They were particularly associated with the railroads, as they had the reputation for freighthopping--hitching free rides from place to place in the baggage cars of trains.

Hobos generally apply the term hobo only to itinerant people who work. In contrast, they define a tramp as a itinerant person who does not work and they define a bum as a homeless person who neither travels nor works. Both are terms of derision within the hobo community.
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It appears either "bum" or "tramp" is precisely the right terminology. Hobo doesn't come close to describing BJ's Bums.

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Hobo
DBS

Santa Cruz, CA

#21 Feb 2, 2011
Becky Johnson wrote:
The Dark History of Captain Steve Clark:
http://www.pdfdownload.org/pdf2html/view_onli...
Hey whackjob, none of the manure that YOU wrote carries ANY credibility with anyone.
Karen

Marina, CA

#22 Feb 2, 2011
not so fast wrote:
<quoted text>
Definition fopr Hobo:...
That's how it was explained to me down there by the older guys except that there was also a catch-all "hippie" category for deadheads and other wanderers. Anyone that tried to call themselves a hobo got the message loud and clear from those guys that they weren't one.

This is going to kill Becky but the number one non-essential item that people fought over in the donation box were those B.U.M. surfer t-shirts. They all wanted one because they thought they were funny.
USA gives away billions

Clayton, NC

#23 Feb 2, 2011
Everyday: Billions.

To countries all over the world,

while here at home, people are sleeping in dumpsters.

get it?

That is the real tragedy. You complain not enough is done to help the homeless, or prosecute the homeless, but whatever side you are on, these are human beings with no hope in the great USA!

This country can do so much better to help it's own.

Stop the flow of money to other countries until this one is fixed up real nice! Pay people without jobs a real wage, wouldn't even cost that much compared to what we GIVE AWAY TO OTHER COUNTRIES!!!

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