Vintage motorcycle show draws hundreds to Capitola Mall

Dale Bickford rode his 2008 Yamaha Raider S about 100 miles south of home in El Sobrante on Sunday, traveling with 15 buddies and taking Highway 1 along the coast when they could, to visit the vintage motorcycle show held in the parking lot of the Capitola Mall. Full Story
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Mary

Santa Cruz, CA

#21 Jul 3, 2010
Moike wrote:
<quoted text>
Well you are correct, Sir. My F1 Racebike has a water/oil cooled modern Suzuki (K7) dual overhead cam 1000cc powerplant that produces more than 200 horsepower at the rear wheel with a 64 bit electronically controlled engine management system that requires a laptop to load three dimensional fuel injection/ignition maps into it's ECU given the altitude, ambient temperature, and barometric pressure at any particular track I may be racing at.
It is the pinnacle of technology and is designed to produce nothing but pure horsepower at 14k RPM all day long reliably on 110 octane fuel to get me to the checkers first.
But, for fun... I love my air/oil cooled Ducati Streetfighter. With it's rooted in the mid-80's technology two-valve engine and measly 120 horsepower, flat slide carbs, and it's primary ability to convert fuel into noise and unburnt hydrocarbons and flames out the exhaust. It puts a smile on my face every time.
http://gallery.moike.net/gal/monster/IMG_1886...
That's a face only a mother could love. 14 years old and going strong.
Eat your heart out Moike!
You've never been on a bike like THIS!

[IMG]http://i33.photobucket.co m/albums/d56/DWalford/bikes%20 and%20cars/ClamGuns.jpg[/IMG]
Mary

Santa Cruz, CA

#22 Jul 3, 2010
Moike wrote:
<quoted text>
Well you are correct, Sir. My F1 Racebike has a water/oil cooled modern Suzuki (K7) dual overhead cam 1000cc powerplant that produces more than 200 horsepower at the rear wheel with a 64 bit electronically controlled engine management system that requires a laptop to load three dimensional fuel injection/ignition maps into it's ECU given the altitude, ambient temperature, and barometric pressure at any particular track I may be racing at.
It is the pinnacle of technology and is designed to produce nothing but pure horsepower at 14k RPM all day long reliably on 110 octane fuel to get me to the checkers first.
But, for fun... I love my air/oil cooled Ducati Streetfighter. With it's rooted in the mid-80's technology two-valve engine and measly 120 horsepower, flat slide carbs, and it's primary ability to convert fuel into noise and unburnt hydrocarbons and flames out the exhaust. It puts a smile on my face every time.
http://gallery.moike.net/gal/monster/IMG_1886...
That's a face only a mother could love. 14 years old and going strong.
Let me try this again...sigh!

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d56/DWalfor...
Mary

Santa Cruz, CA

#23 Jul 3, 2010
Moike wrote:
<quoted text>
They wheelie good too... even in a full on vision obscuring downpour.=D
http://moike.net/irc-moto/wheelie-on-280-in-t...
And I've always loved the brakes on the 'busa.=D
http://moike.net/irc-moto/moike-safe.jpg
One of the most comfortable bikes I've ever ridden, I'd almost call it an "Old Man's Bike".
This one might look more familiar to you.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d56/DWalfor...

“Is that u, John Wayne? ”

Since: Jul 08

Santa Cruz, CA

#24 Jul 4, 2010
dracul wrote:
<quoted text>
moike...I've reread your strange post and you do seem to imply that these large S&S mills are HD bound. It's not my reading comprehension that is faulty, rather, it's your sub-par writing that confuses the issue. Your race bikes read impressively, however, despite your dismal writing abilities :) Happy Fourth!
Quoted for Clarity... Exactly what you wrote, which is what I responded to with my initial reply to you.

[quote who="Sparta"] wrote: <quoted text>
Funny...and so true. Most HD bikers aint got much hangin', that's why they insist on all the noise coming from those pathetic 60 hp S&S mills most bicyclers can outrun!
[/quote]

So I responded with facts and stats on the power output of 'S&S mills' you had directly referred to in order to debunk what was in fact a false statement from you. You on the other hand went frothy and into a strawman attack.

I have been online on USENET, BBSes, and Forums since the late 80's clearly articulating myself in a easy to comprehend manner be it in polite civil discourse or all out flamewars. I have also spent some time writing for more than one paper circulation motorcycle magazine, and a couple on-line motorcycle magazines.

And if there is a suggestion here that of the two of us one should say go back to school, polish up on their basic reading/writing/grammatical skills, and exit out the other side with say maybe at minimum a GED in hand?

Well it's not me, Bubba.

And if any of my 'sub-par writing' in this follow-up confuses or befuddles you? Just go slow, and clap it out when you get to the words that are over two syllables.

Happy Independence day to you as well. And here is a handy safety tip to make it through this explosive holiday weekend with all your digits intact. Just like that 2nd amendment, make sure you know what you're aiming at before you pull the trigger exercising that 1st amendment right. It just might verbally shoot back, with intelligent ammunition, and surgical precision.=D

“Is that u, John Wayne? ”

Since: Jul 08

Santa Cruz, CA

#25 Jul 4, 2010
Mary wrote:
<quoted text>
This one might look more familiar to you.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d56/DWalfor...
Would you believe I took it from that basket case to this after a couple years of painful frame-up restoration work?

http://moike.net/rgm-paint/rgm-decals1.gif

http://moike.net/rgm-paint/rgm-decals3.gif

There wasn't a part on that bike that I didn't personally restore.

And here it is with it's original owner on the passenger platform over at the Isle of Man dominating the TT in 1970.

http://moike.net/roy-sidecar/images/roy-sidec...

http://moike.net/roy-sidecar/images/roy-sidec...

I got to hold that helmet in my hands when I bought the RGM from him.

http://moike.net/rgm-purchase/images/128-2868...
Mary

Santa Cruz, CA

#26 Jul 4, 2010
Moike wrote:
<quoted text>
Would you believe I took it from that basket case to this after a couple years of painful frame-up restoration work?
http://moike.net/rgm-paint/rgm-decals1.gif
http://moike.net/rgm-paint/rgm-decals3.gif
There wasn't a part on that bike that I didn't personally restore.
And here it is with it's original owner on the passenger platform over at the Isle of Man dominating the TT in 1970.
http://moike.net/roy-sidecar/images/roy-sidec...
http://moike.net/roy-sidecar/images/roy-sidec...
I got to hold that helmet in my hands when I bought the RGM from him.
http://moike.net/rgm-purchase/images/128-2868...
Good job on that one.
Yesterday I saw what I thought was a 3 wheel Morgan
powered by a Moto Guzzi engine in front.
Good fun!
You did a beautiful job on that sidecar rig.
I like the battery on the outside bubble for weight.
Neither one of us can match this speed deamon
on his vintage BMW though....
Ernst Henne.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d56/DWalfor...
Mark Bayer

United States

#27 Jul 8, 2010
The problem with big inch kits on HD's is the heat. If the engine was liquid cooled, it would produce more power for longer. Even the stock 96ci HD's run so hot the back passenger often suffers from the heat on their legs. An air cooled, OHV, long stroke, 2 valve per cyl. engine can only produce so much reliable horse power unless some other fuel is used. If a nitrous system is used, power can increase nearly 200% but the life of the engine is also reduced substantially. I know of HD drag racers who run 150+ hp engines who have to rebuild their engines after two or three runs! Even with out a NOS system, a highly modified HD engine may last only one season, two at the most. This is not bashing HD's, it's just the fact that the engine technology is just old. The primary reason that the EVO engine was so good was that it was detuned! Harley makes a great bike using 40 year old technology. Again, this is not a criticism, it's just what it is. The complaint that so many have of the Japanese bikes is that they age quickly and repairs on older machines is hard to come by. This creates the conflict, old or new. An old push mower is less troublesome than a mower with a Briggs & Stratton motor, but the mower with a motor cuts more grass. Now jump to a new high tech OHC, 360degree turning, self starting, riding mower, grass gets really easy to cut! Harley has done very well with what they have been working with! They have kept the bikes they have, because that's what the market wanted! The bikes work well with old technology because of decades of development! The problen is this: 1. younger riders want more modern technology, 2. HD makes 30+ models for one market category, 3. HD's cost more to buy (and get a little better return as well) but many still don't want to put out the additional money up front, and 4. the retro-look ig getting old for many so a more up to date style is desired, finally, 5. the HD attitude found in some riders (not all) is seen as arrogant and uninformed to some, it really turns some people off and away! I like HD's as I like most motorcycles. I don't wish to criticise anyone's ride, your free to ride what you want! I just think motorcyclists need to enjoy the history and variety of the sport to the fullest. Check out: www, markbayersvintagehonda.9f.com
www.vcme.9f.com
www.markbayersmotorcyclehistory.9f.com
Mary

Santa Cruz, CA

#28 Jul 8, 2010
I've always considered Harley's
a splint for a limp Cheney.

Loud and slow...
..give me more of that!

My Dad rode an Indian
he taught me a little song...

"Harley Davidson made of tin
..you ride 'em out
..you push 'em in!"

Shiny side up.

“Can take a hit, and give one!”

Since: Feb 09

Colorado, New Mexico, Hawaii

#29 Jul 10, 2010
Moike wrote:
<quoted text>
Quoted for Clarity... Exactly what you wrote, which is what I responded to with my initial reply to you.
[quote who="Sparta"] wrote: <quoted text>
Funny...and so true. Most HD bikers aint got much hangin', that's why they insist on all the noise coming from those pathetic 60 hp S&S mills most bicyclers can outrun!
[/quote]
So I responded with facts and stats on the power output of 'S&S mills' you had directly referred to in order to debunk what was in fact a false statement from you. You on the other hand went frothy and into a strawman attack.
I have been online on USENET, BBSes, and Forums since the late 80's clearly articulating myself in a easy to comprehend manner be it in polite civil discourse or all out flamewars. I have also spent some time writing for more than one paper circulation motorcycle magazine, and a couple on-line motorcycle magazines.
And if there is a suggestion here that of the two of us one should say go back to school, polish up on their basic reading/writing/grammatical skills, and exit out the other side with say maybe at minimum a GED in hand?
Well it's not me, Bubba.
And if any of my 'sub-par writing' in this follow-up confuses or befuddles you? Just go slow, and clap it out when you get to the words that are over two syllables.
Happy Independence day to you as well. And here is a handy safety tip to make it through this explosive holiday weekend with all your digits intact. Just like that 2nd amendment, make sure you know what you're aiming at before you pull the trigger exercising that 1st amendment right. It just might verbally shoot back, with intelligent ammunition, and surgical precision.=D
YOU still don't get it do you dim-wit?! Must I lead you by the hand? Apparently so! I was referring to HD (THAT means Harley Davidson to you since you seem to need things spelled out patiently) and the STANDARD S&S mills they employ on their bikes. I do not recall stock HD motorcycles coming equipped with large bore displacement V-Twins. You're a liar if you claim otherwise, sap. I'm not impressed with your retort as you once again MISS MY POINT notwithstanding the drivel you blather out above cretin. HD's DO NOT come stock with 121" S&S motors, termite. Get a brain:)

“Can take a hit, and give one!”

Since: Feb 09

Colorado, New Mexico, Hawaii

#30 Jul 10, 2010
Mark Bayer wrote:
The problem with big inch kits on HD's is the heat. If the engine was liquid cooled, it would produce more power for longer. Even the stock 96ci HD's run so hot the back passenger often suffers from the heat on their legs. An air cooled, OHV, long stroke, 2 valve per cyl. engine can only produce so much reliable horse power unless some other fuel is used. If a nitrous system is used, power can increase nearly 200% but the life of the engine is also reduced substantially. I know of HD drag racers who run 150+ hp engines who have to rebuild their engines after two or three runs! Even with out a NOS system, a highly modified HD engine may last only one season, two at the most. This is not bashing HD's, it's just the fact that the engine technology is just old. The primary reason that the EVO engine was so good was that it was detuned! Harley makes a great bike using 40 year old technology. Again, this is not a criticism, it's just what it is. The complaint that so many have of the Japanese bikes is that they age quickly and repairs on older machines is hard to come by. This creates the conflict, old or new. An old push mower is less troublesome than a mower with a Briggs & Stratton motor, but the mower with a motor cuts more grass. Now jump to a new high tech OHC, 360degree turning, self starting, riding mower, grass gets really easy to cut! Harley has done very well with what they have been working with! They have kept the bikes they have, because that's what the market wanted! The bikes work well with old technology because of decades of development! The problen is this: 1. younger riders want more modern technology, 2. HD makes 30+ models for one market category, 3. HD's cost more to buy (and get a little better return as well) but many still don't want to put out the additional money up front, and 4. the retro-look ig getting old for many so a more up to date style is desired, finally, 5. the HD attitude found in some riders (not all) is seen as arrogant and uninformed to some, it really turns some people off and away! I like HD's as I like most motorcycles. I don't wish to criticise anyone's ride, your free to ride what you want! I just think motorcyclists need to enjoy the history and variety of the sport to the fullest. Check out: www, markbayersvintagehonda.9f.com
www.vcme.9f.com
www.markbayersmotorcyclehistory.9f.com
Now THIS guy makes sense! Moike should take heed and learn a tad! Totally concur with this post.

“Can take a hit, and give one!”

Since: Feb 09

Colorado, New Mexico, Hawaii

#31 Jul 10, 2010
Addendum just for lil'moike: the 2010 Harley Davidson FLHX Street Glide features a 1584cc, 45-degree pushrod mill which cranks out a dismal 67.4 hp @ 4850 rpm. Torque rating is a little stouter at 82.2 ft.-lb.@ 3600 rpm. Top speed is around an unimpressive 108 mph. So...it would seem my original contention that typical HD's are underpowered is indeed the case. Some few are a bit peppier, most are less so. Thus, moike, you are mistaken and delusional if you claim otherwise. With that having been established, I'll take my leave of this tangential thread. Do YOUR homework, pal, before you prove yourself a fool once again!

“Is that u, John Wayne? ”

Since: Jul 08

Santa Cruz, CA

#33 Jul 12, 2010
dracul wrote:
I'll take my leave of this tangential thread. Do YOUR homework, pal, before you prove yourself a fool once again!
Man, the easiest way to tell 'drafool' is about to puff up and kneejerk-react to any bit of rank bait I toss out? Any time you hear his keyboard clattering...

Excellent case of wharrgarbl you got going on there ITG. I can almost see the neckvein and spittle flying.

Hop right in the boat little fish, nice and sweet.

http://moike.net/successful_troll.jpg

Thanks for playing.
Mary

Santa Cruz, CA

#34 Jul 12, 2010
Moike wrote:
<quoted text>
Man, the easiest way to tell 'drafool' is about to puff up and kneejerk-react to any bit of rank bait I toss out? Any time you hear his keyboard clattering...
Excellent case of wharrgarbl you got going on there ITG. I can almost see the neckvein and spittle flying.
Hop right in the boat little fish, nice and sweet.
http://moike.net/successful_troll.jpg
Thanks for playing.
Don't you feel a tiny bit guilty
for pusing this guy's buttons?

It's like he ran into a wall of sand.

You are a bad man!

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