LA County deputy's death in forest ruled suicide

Medical examiners say a Los Angeles County sheriff's deputy found dead in the Cleveland National Forest after a massive search had killed himself with a shotgun wound to the head.

[JMan]

Before you guys bash a peace officer again....remember that the stress an offcier goes through on a daily basis is real....I am sad for this man and his family.. I have dealt with that...it is horrible..be sure to thank a cop one day, not just bash because he took a bad guy to jail or had to use force against someone who threatened his safety...

[T Thompson]

Tragic...

[crazy world]

JMan wrote:

Before you guys bash a peace officer again....remember that the stress an offcier goes through on a daily basis is real....I am sad for this man and his family.. I have dealt with that...it is horrible..be sure to thank a cop one day, not just bash because he took a bad guy to jail or had to use force against someone who threatened his safety...

how do you know that he didn't kill himself for his own selfish reasons? it could have been because of his marriage or other personal problems that has nothing to do with his job. i don't feel sad for those who take there own life because they are too much of a coward to face their issues. i feel sorry for his families and friends because they have to go on living while he took the easy way out and off himself. i have a feeling that what made him take his own life is family issues.

[Sad]

I am so sorry for this officer and his family. It makes you wonder what terrible event forced him to this tragic end. My deepest sympathy to his family, friends and co-workers.

[D avid]

Frightful when we think these are the same guys walking around with loaded guns and bad attitudes.

[VFW]

crazy world wrote:

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how do you know that he didn't kill himself for his own selfish reasons? it could have been because of his marriage or other personal problems that has nothing to do with his job. i don't feel sad for those who take there own life because they are too much of a coward to face their issues. i feel sorry for his families and friends because they have to go on living while he took the easy way out and off himself. i have a feeling that what made him take his own life is family issues.

Police officers, all other occupations have their suicides. While some may make an ignorant statement that it was for "selfish reasons", some of us may understand that under some conditions the mental confusion and agony that drives some to suicide may not even give that person the luxury of being selfish. What I do note with this suicide is that this gentleman cared enough about his family to do his best to insure that no family member had to walk into a room and find his body as does happen in many suicides. He tried his best to make sure that when his body was found it would be by a search team. We may never know why he took his life, but I fear that there will always be those who enjoy calling a suicide selfish, even if the motive of the suicide had nothing to do with selfishness. Even if the collateral effect of his death may involve it in some way, it may not have been his objective.

[VFW]

hate white people wrote:

hope more do the same..lol

It's sad that people like you even exist.

[VFW]

D avid wrote:

Frightful when we think these are the same guys walking around with loaded guns and bad attitudes.

Not frightful at all. All types of people commit suicide. Salesman, Doctors, Nurses, Lawyers, Teachers, Bus Drivers, and anyone else you can think of. Just about everyone of them drives a car or truck, which can be much more of a deadly weapon than any policemans gun. This officer had the integrity to go off and end his life in solitude, rather than take a lot of people with him like many civilians do. My next door neighbor that owns a gun is just as frightning if he decides to commit suicide, maybe more.

[voodoo6]

To "hate white people" from Baldwin Park.
As a police officer, I hope some day that you will need the assistance of the police department. When they don't respond and you end up dead I hope your family feels the same as you. Instead of talking your trash why don't you apply yourself and become something worthwhile.

I know for a fact that this officer took his life due to the stress of an on the job incident.

[crazy world]

VFW wrote:

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Police officers, all other occupations have their suicides. While some may make an ignorant statement that it was for "selfish reasons", some of us may understand that under some conditions the mental confusion and agony that drives some to suicide may not even give that person the luxury of being selfish. What I do note with this suicide is that this gentleman cared enough about his family to do his best to insure that no family member had to walk into a room and find his body as does happen in many suicides. He tried his best to make sure that when his body was found it would be by a search team. We may never know why he took his life, but I fear that there will always be those who enjoy calling a suicide selfish, even if the motive of the suicide had nothing to do with selfishness. Even if the collateral effect of his death may involve it in some way, it may not have been his objective.

suicide is selfish. did he not love his family enough to sacrifice himself for them? killing himself away from the family shows his love for his family? anyone who gives up and take their own life is selfish. they only though of them self and took the quick and easy way out.

[rich]

to protect and to serve , think about it we hire goof balls to protect and serve. Or he got in trouble for taking an extra donut break. That will do it

[Really]

Trying to help people who hate you for everything you do for them takes a toll. Pretty stressful the idea of risking your health and life , working rotating shifts in every imagininable weather condition,missing holiday after holiday with your family, getting mediocre pay,having to worry about bogus complaints and lawsuits. And to top it off they are doing it for a bunch of spoiled ingrates who don't deserve it and the only thing they have to look forward to is a good retirement that statistics show they'll only enjoy for about 5 years give or take a year before they die.

I think cops should all decide to take a "stress relief break" for about a week, altogether at the same time and watch it all burn around them.Perhaps then the pampered d-bags like the ones here that hate them so much while enjoying the benefits of their protection might well sing a different tune. Heck, even a day of it would suffice.By afternoon time you'd be begging for their help, and I'd get great pleasure from watching thems say "no".

[To Really]

Obviously you have never been in the miliatary. Yes being a cop is stressfull... but having been at my wits end in situations that were not meant for a young man, being armed to the teeth and paid substantially lower than a cop with no union to cry to if someone disrespected me....having equipment, men and commands to respond to and lead... I know of no friends of mine or myself that choose the cowards way out.... this guy may have had problems but I had to get through the traffic, see the 3 helicopters, the myriad of police cars, fire trucks, rescue trucks looking for him.... his death affected more than himself and was the easy way out..... facing a situation head on and seeking help is the courageous way.My condolences to his family and friends... but he thought of no one but himself when the time came.

[Really]

As a matter of fact I have. USMC infantry(0351).Never did I hear of people suing anyone for doing their job as a grunt. Never did I hear some d-bag civilian think they could "complain" about us and anyone would do anything but laugh at them. When you retire from the military, you go have another career, you don't drop dead five years later from the stress, injuries, and health issues you accrued ovre your career.If you pull the trigger in the military you are doing your job and it's nothing unusual. If a cop does it he gets investigated for murder and has to be "cleared".

And you whine about being held up in traffic? You pathetic piece of human trash.You are the best possible example I could have dreampt of for what is wrong with America today.

[VFW]

To Really wrote:

Obviously you have never been in the miliatary. Yes being a cop is stressfull... but having been at my wits end in situations that were not meant for a young man, being armed to the teeth and paid substantially lower than a cop with no union to cry to if someone disrespected me....having equipment, men and commands to respond to and lead... I know of no friends of mine or myself that choose the cowards way out.... this guy may have had problems but I had to get through the traffic, see the 3 helicopters, the myriad of police cars, fire trucks, rescue trucks looking for him.... his death affected more than himself and was the easy way out..... facing a situation head on and seeking help is the courageous way.My condolences to his family and friends... but he thought of no one but himself when the time came.

I've also been in the military. So what's your point. The military has as high or higher suicide rate than police. You have no idea of whether his suicide was selfish, yet you self-righteously spew that hateful remark about someone who has just died. You have no idea if he had a mental condition that caused him to do this, or a physical condition such as a brain tumor. Suicide is not always something that someone simply decides to do or not do. For many it is. But for many it is not. Not everyone is able to overcome all conditions that can lead to suicide. Yet you in all your wisdom simply call it selfish.

[VFW]

US military suicide rate at record high
By James Cogan
4 February 2009

American troops are taking their own lives in the largest numbers since records began to be kept in 1980. In 2008, there were 128 confirmed suicides by serving army personnel and 41 by serving marines. Another 15 army deaths are still being investigated. The toll is another of the terrible consequences that have flowed from Washington's neo-colonial wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

The army suicide rate is now higher than that among the general American population. The rate has been calculated as 20.2 per 100,000 soldiers, compared with 19.5 per 100,000 civilians. This is a shocking statistic, as soldiers theoretically are screened for mental illnesses before enlistment and have access to counselling and health services that millions of ordinary people cannot afford.

As there is an average of 10 failed suicide attempts for each actual loss of life, the figures suggest that more than 1,600 serving army and marine personnel tried to kill themselves last year.

Army Secretary Pete Geren told the Associated Press that "we cannot tell you" why the number of military suicides was rising. It is indisputable, however, that it is linked to the stresses on soldiers caused by the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. In 2002, the army suicide rate was just 9.8 per 100,000. The last time it exceeded the civilian rate was in the late 1960s, at the highpoint of the US war in Vietnam.

[VFW]

crazy world wrote:

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suicide is selfish. did he not love his family enough to sacrifice himself for them? killing himself away from the family shows his love for his family? anyone who gives up and take their own life is selfish. they only though of them self and took the quick and easy way out.

Crazy World, if someone is of sound mind I almost might agree with you. Then suicide might be selfish. But not everyone is of sound mind when they commit suicide. You have no idea what was happening in his mind. You don't even know if he could think clearly or was completely lost. You have no idea.

[SBSO]

hate white people wrote:

hope more do the same..lol

Why don't you give yourself a retroactive abortion?

Just take a whole bunch of the drugs you are on all at once.

Nobody will miss you.

[thats life]

Rest in p.i.s.s or peace...wonder if this cop would've shot me for no reason ?

[Bob Dominguez]

hate white people wrote:

hope more do the same..lol

Why don't you do the world a favor and crawl in a hole and die?