I want to personally thank MSNBC . . . . . .

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Mike the Pike

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I don't know but Forbes looks like a pretty credible source to me but then again, I am a business minded righty!
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Mike the Pike wrote:
I don't know but Forbes looks like a pretty credible source to me but then again, I am a business minded righty!
OK then,what do you think of this?

Want a Better Economy? History Says Vote Democrat!

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Personal disposable income has grown nearly 6 times more under Democratic presidents

Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has grown 7 times more under Democratic presidents

Corporate profits have grown over 16% more per year under Democratic presidents (they actually declined under Republicans by an average of 4.53%/year)

Average annual compound return on the stock market has been 18 times greater under Democratic presidents (If you invested $100k for 40 years of Republican administrations you had $126k at the end, if you invested $100k for 40 years of Democrat administrations you had $3.9M at the end)

Republican presidents added 2.5 times more to the national debt than Democratic presidents

The two times the economy steered into the ditch (Great Depression and Great Recession) were during Republican, laissez faire administrations"

http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2012/...
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Mike the Pike wrote:
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Nice job quoting your sources. I never see any of the posting lefties ever refer back to a source, only the nebulous "many studies show" qualifier.
The libs argue to win. Like machines with a specific task, they do anything to accomplish that win but lose site very easily of the larger global view of our problems. They are not interested in facts, particularly if those facts do not support their emotionally driven world view. Bottom line, they will fight to the death to win a battle but really are not capable of solving any long term problems thus cannot ever really win the war. This is precisely why our president can only operate in campaign mode. He cannot govern, only rhetorically battle!
Just arguing with "MSLSD opinion" indoctrinated idiots.
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The Infantile left Winged wrote:
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Just more BULLSHIT spin, from the BULLSHIT queen!
Prove it wrong, if you are so sure it's wrong. Until then BULLSHIT queen, it stands!
You still don't get it, do you? First, you quote Limbaugh's and Newsbusters' OPINIONS about so-called MSNBC bias, with no factual support. We are supposed to accept their opinions with no supporting facts.

That is NOT a valid argument, as CRICKETS pointed out.

Then, you say that it's up to me prove that MSNBC is not biased, an attempt to shift the burden of proof to me. That, too, is a logical fallacy. Again,

The Burden of Proof.

"The burden of proof is always on the person making an assertion or proposition. Shifting the burden of proof, a special case of argumentum ad ignorantium, is the fallacy of putting the burden of proof on the person who denies or questions the assertion being made. The source of the fallacy is the assumption that something is true unless proven otherwise. "

Understand? Your fallacy is believing that "something is true unless proven otherwise".

Maybe you think that simply posting 6 sites means that you've proven your point. It does NOT prove your argument. YOU have to read these posted sites YOURSELF, find what things you think proves your points, copy them back to a new post (citing these sources), and show exactly what MSNBC said that was supposedly biased.

Just posting 6 sites does not prove a thing. I'm NOT going to read all the info on these sites and make your argument for you. YOU have to do that, not me.

I could just as easily google "How MSNBC was not biased about the Boston bombings", and come back with dozens of sites, telling you to read all of them and dispute them.

YOU are the one saying that MSNBC was biased, so it's up to you to back it up by quoting, and commenting on, the specific 'facts' that make your point. You're just too lazy-- or too logically and mentally impaired-- to do so.
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Tea Party Solution wrote:
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You still don't get it, do you? First, you quote Limbaugh's and Newsbusters' OPINIONS about so-called MSNBC bias, with no factual support. We are supposed to accept their opinions with no supporting facts.
That is NOT a valid argument, as CRICKETS pointed out.
Then, you say that it's up to me prove that MSNBC is not biased, an attempt to shift the burden of proof to me. That, too, is a logical fallacy. Again,
The Burden of Proof.
"The burden of proof is always on the person making an assertion or proposition. Shifting the burden of proof, a special case of argumentum ad ignorantium, is the fallacy of putting the burden of proof on the person who denies or questions the assertion being made. The source of the fallacy is the assumption that something is true unless proven otherwise. "
Understand? Your fallacy is believing that "something is true unless proven otherwise".
Maybe you think that simply posting 6 sites means that you've proven your point. It does NOT prove your argument. YOU have to read these posted sites YOURSELF, find what things you think proves your points, copy them back to a new post (citing these sources), and show exactly what MSNBC said that was supposedly biased.
Just posting 6 sites does not prove a thing. I'm NOT going to read all the info on these sites and make your argument for you. YOU have to do that, not me.
I could just as easily google "How MSNBC was not biased about the Boston bombings", and come back with dozens of sites, telling you to read all of them and dispute them.
YOU are the one saying that MSNBC was biased, so it's up to you to back it up by quoting, and commenting on, the specific 'facts' that make your point. You're just too lazy-- or too logically and mentally impaired-- to do so.
You still don't get it, do you?
IF IT IS WRONG? PROVE IT... MORON!!!
You say that PMS LSD is not biased, so it's up to you to back it up by quoting, and commenting on, the specific 'facts' that make your point.
You're just too lazy-- or too logically and mentally impaired-- to do so.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

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sociopathic Liberals wrote:
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You still don't get it, do you?
IF IT IS WRONG? PROVE IT... MORON!!!
You say that PMS LSD is not biased, so it's up to you to back it up by quoting, and commenting on, the specific 'facts' that make your point.
You're just too lazy-- or too logically and mentally impaired-- to do so.
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The burden of proof lies with you.

You made the assertion MSNBC is biased, but have not proven it with any facts, but in the meantime you are doing a commendable job making a total fool of yourself.
The Infantile left Winged

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GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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The burden of proof lies with you.
You made the assertion MSNBC is biased, but have not proven it with any facts, but in the meantime you are doing a commendable job making a total fool of yourself.
No nicoliar, it is you common sense and truth free moron liberals who are ignoring the FIVE links provided to support my facts about PMS LSD who are making the complete and total fools of your selves.
I've already supported my claim, not my fault that you liberals are so stupid that you can't see your hand in front of your pitiful faces!
So now you dumbphuqs, prove my FIVE links wrong.
You can't, that's why you are playing your same old, and I mean really old, juvenile spin games!
While this whole time, you all are doing a commendable job making a total fools of yourselves.
The Infantile left Winged

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GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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The burden of proof lies with you.
You made the assertion MSNBC is biased, but have not proven it with any facts, but in the meantime you are doing a commendable job making a total fool of yourself.
So now all of the sudden your left wing sources ARE opinion mills???

Thank you stupid as a stick... you just proved my point for me!!!
ROTFLMAPO at all of you liberal idiots!!!

Pew Research Center Study Claims MSNBC is 85 Percent 'Opinion-Driven' While Fox News Only 45 Percent
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/03/21/1195 ...#

CNN Panel Takes On Study Finding MSNBC ‘Mostly Opinion,’ Mocks ‘Soft-Spoken’ Chris Matthews.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-panel-takes-on ...

Yes, you ignorant buffoon, those links I provided ARE:
1) Daily Kooks

2)CNN

3) Mediaite.

I love it, the way that it is soooo simple to make complete idiots out of you liberal bone heads!!!
Maybe you dumbphuqs should pay just a little attention to what others are posting on here!!!
Man... you liberals are the epitome of pure ignorance, stupidity and moronic!!! ROTFLMAO AT ALL OF YOU IDIOTS!!!
This is too much fun... thank you!
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Sorry moron but niether of your links works. The Daily Kos link leads nowhere and the cnn one is a story about Al Jazeera not MSNBC.
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Your mediate cite however did have a link to this hllarious story about fox news idiocy.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/concerned-fox-news...
The Infantile left Winged

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Sorry moron but niether of your links works. The Daily Kos link leads nowhere and the cnn one is a story about Al Jazeera not MSNBC.
Well. that just goes to show ya how low rent and halfassed your left winged sites are, now aren't they? LOL at you dopes!!!
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Wow, you are not very good at this sort of thing are you?
Mike the Pike

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Here is something to chew on, tear apart, support or all the above.
1. Close the border (with troops if necessary)

a. Register all current resident aliens for background investigation and placement on tax rolls

b. Expel all resident aliens with a criminal record

c. Make English language the official language of the US and make proficiency of it a condition of legal resident status!

d. Stop the transfer of all government benefit payments to parties outside of the US international borders.

2. Design an end to the war on terror and limit US military presence worldwide

3. Create energy policy that opens more drilling and energy development here at home

a. Convert over 4 year period all non- military governmental vehicles to natural gas

4. Create flat tax of 10% for all citizens and do away with current tax code

5. Create capital gains tax of 10% to encourage more investment in companies causing job growth

6. Create 10% Corporate tax to encourage outside companies to locate in the US for manufacturing and job creation

7. Do away with the EPA – leave environmental protection to the states

8. Repeal Obamacare

a. Allow intrastate competition of health insurance providers to stimulate competition and lower costs to customers

b. Establish government backed limited safety net insurance for indigent

9. Place time limits and payment limits on all social assistance programs so they do not continue as a way of life

a. Create new nationwide assistance for state run mental health care

b. Establish new job training programs to assist states in retraining their work force

c. Enforce rules that exclude non citizens from obtaining government assistance.

10. Establish new commission on government fraud and waste, aggressively pursue program abuses

11. Target initial nationwide 10% government spending reduction to be followed by an additional 10% each year until government reaches a total of 50% reduction in services.

12. Freeze debt ceiling at current level - never to be raised again

13. Place a 15% tariff on all manufactured goods coming into the US – motivates outside companies to manufacture products here.

14. Do away with the department of Ed – Education is a state issue

15. Do away with all government sponsored media – leave media to private sector

16. Make Governmental employee unions illegal – Government employees work for the people and should not lobby for jobs and raises.(Originally suggested by FDR)

17. Enact legislation that makes voter identification mandatory

18. Streamline military for original mission of protecting US borders and limited outside interests

19. Create strong foreign policy understanding with Muslim world about US nuclear capability and the consequences of further US attacks

20. Withdraw US involvement in the UN and demand UN withdrawal from US sovereign land.

sociopathic Liberals

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Sorry moron but niether of your links works. The Daily Kos link leads nowhere and the cnn one is a story about Al Jazeera not MSNBC.
I know that you all cannot think for yourselves so let me help you, go back to my original post #73 with the original links that you morons bashed without even looking at, and made complete idiots of yourselves.(still LOL at you!) And there you dope you will find the stories. If you need more help, just ask, and I will be more than happy to help you make even bigger asses of yourself!!!
You can't pay for this kind of entertainment!!!
sociopathic Liberals

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Crickets wrote:
Your mediate cite however did have a link to this hllarious story about fox news idiocy.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/concerned-fox-news...
Who cares??? I don't watch Al Jazeera owned FOX news.
Well sometimes I watch 'The Five', just to watch bob beckle make a typical liberal ass of itself!
Tea Party Solution

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sociopathic Liberals wrote:
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You still don't get it, do you?
IF IT IS WRONG? PROVE IT... MORON!!!
You made the assertion that MSNBC's Boston coverage was biased. The ONLY quotes you posted to 'prove' this allegation were from Limbaugh and Newsbusters, where they gave no facts to support this allegation. I asked for the facts and then you wanted ME to prove that MSNBC was NOT biased.

The burden of proof is on YOU-- not on ME.

ROAD TOADY jokingly made this allegation about you-- "Using your logic, I say you're a pedophile now prove that you're not!"

According to your 'logic', it's up to YOU to prove that you're not a pedophile. If you don't prove that you're not a pedophile, then you are a pedophile.

And just posting links proves NOTHING. You need to read those links yourself, and then bring into a new post the specific information you think proves your points. It's not up to us to read these links and try to find your points for you.

BTW, your constant angry name-calling tantrums does not help your argument. You're simply showing all of us that you're way out of your league.
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Mike the Pike wrote:
Here is something to chew on, tear apart, support or all the above.
1. Close the border (with troops if necessary)
a. Register all current resident aliens for background investigation and placement on tax rolls
b. Expel all resident aliens with a criminal record
c. Make English language the official language of the US and make proficiency of it a condition of legal resident status!
d. Stop the transfer of all government benefit payments to parties outside of the US international borders.
2. Design an end to the war on terror and limit US military presence worldwide
3. Create energy policy that opens more drilling and energy development here at home
a. Convert over 4 year period all non- military governmental vehicles to natural gas
4. Create flat tax of 10% for all citizens and do away with current tax code
5. Create capital gains tax of 10% to encourage more investment in companies causing job growth
6. Create 10% Corporate tax to encourage outside companies to locate in the US for manufacturing and job creation
7. Do away with the EPA – leave environmental protection to the states
8. Repeal Obamacare
a. Allow intrastate competition of health insurance providers to stimulate competition and lower costs to customers
b. Establish government backed limited safety net insurance for indigent
9. Place time limits and payment limits on all social assistance programs so they do not continue as a way of life
a. Create new nationwide assistance for state run mental health care
b. Establish new job training programs to assist states in retraining their work force
c. Enforce rules that exclude non citizens from obtaining government assistance.
10. Establish new commission on government fraud and waste, aggressively pursue program abuses
11. Target initial nationwide 10% government spending reduction to be followed by an additional 10% each year until government reaches a total of 50% reduction in services.
12. Freeze debt ceiling at current level - never to be raised again
13. Place a 15% tariff on all manufactured goods coming into the US – motivates outside companies to manufacture products here.
14. Do away with the department of Ed – Education is a state issue
15. Do away with all government sponsored media – leave media to private sector
16. Make Governmental employee unions illegal – Government employees work for the people and should not lobby for jobs and raises.(Originally suggested by FDR)
17. Enact legislation that makes voter identification mandatory
18. Streamline military for original mission of protecting US borders and limited outside interests
19. Create strong foreign policy understanding with Muslim world about US nuclear capability and the consequences of further US attacks
20. Withdraw US involvement in the UN and demand UN withdrawal from US sovereign land.
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I don't know where you scraped up this list, but it contains a number of ideas worthy of further discussion just as it contains a goodly number of non starters....

Suggest you pick one at random and start a thread on it for further input...
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Sorry moron but niether of your links works. The Daily Kos link leads nowhere and the cnn one is a story about Al Jazeera not MSNBC.
Your right, I checked them out, too. And that mediate site actually tore down fox news. The moron doesn't even know how to post sites, much less how to actually read and understand them.
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Your right, I checked them out, too. And that mediate site actually tore down fox news. The moron doesn't even know how to post sites, much less how to actually read and understand them.
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It is futile to attempt to carry an intelligent conversation with someone like INFANTILE... but the entertainment factor of doing so can be priceless at times...
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Then you havn't been paying attention.
Why don't you review for a while and get back to me.
The righties think blogs, opinion and commentary reliable sources? What a joke.

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