Rig the Vote: Republicans Push for So...

Rig the Vote: Republicans Push for Soviet Style Elections Where the Loser Wins

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the Majestic Fking MB

Great Falls, MT

#1 Jan 23, 2013
Bob Shrum, Professor of Public Policy at NYU and Daily Beast contributor, was on the Ed Show discussing how Republicans are trying to gerrymander the Presidency when he announced that Republicans want to “Institutionalize a system where the loser wins… Soviet style election.”

Ed Schultz started the segment off explaining that Republicans are trying to rig the next election,“Republicans in Virginia, Pennsylvania and Michigan want to change the way they award electoral votes. They aren’t trying to improve the system, they only want to change the electoral process for some people….”

Republicans aren’t trying to change red states like Kansas. Oh, no. Kansas is fine, thank you very much. Republicans want to change the rules in these blue states currently controlled by Republicans:Michigan, Florida, Ohio, Virginia, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Under their new rules,Republicans would have gotten an extra 45 electoral votes for Mitt Romney.

Bob Shrum summed it up as a felonious assault on elections,“What’s going on here is a felonious assault on free elections. It’s an attempt to gerrymander the presidency. If you think about it, you could argue that the Republicans haven’t won the presidency on the up and up since 1988.”

Yes, he went there. He continued,“They stole 2000, when they stole Florida with the complicity of the Supreme Court. In 2004, they engaged in massive voter suppression. People in Ohio had to wait 8-10 hours to vote and tens of thousands of them couldn’t wait 8-10 hours. They tried it again in 2012 and they lost. They can’t win the presidency so what they want to do is institutionalize a system where the loser wins… This is a kind of Soviet style elections.”

Not only did Bob Shrum just admit on national TV that Republicans stole 2000 and most likely 2004 (this is something not mentioned by MSM, but the facts are the facts), but he also likened Republican elections to Soviet style elections.

Republicans know they can’t win without cheating and disenfranchsing large groups of the electorate. At some point, it might be easier if they just changed their policies in order to actually attract real voters. Obviously they don’t feel that would pay off or they would do it.

The real question Americans should be asking themselves is just what is the huge payoff that makes Republicans so willing to risk continuing to lose elections and having to resort to cheating to win? We know their Southern Strategy is on its last legs, and has marginalized them to a regional party. But what exactly was the Southern Strategy meant to hide? That is the real question.
Just me

United States

#2 Jan 23, 2013
Grayson all politicians are crooked. Republican or democrat doesn't matter.
the Majestic Fking MB

Great Falls, MT

#3 Jan 23, 2013
so, are you saying that you don't want to know when democracy is being crushed?
Spooner

Hattiesburg, MS

#4 Jan 23, 2013
the Majestic Fking MB wrote:
Bob Shrum, Professor of Public Policy at NYU and Daily Beast contributor, was on the Ed Show discussing how Republicans are trying to gerrymander the Presidency when he announced that Republicans want to “Institutionalize a system where the loser wins… Soviet style election.”
Ed Schultz started the segment off explaining that Republicans are trying to rig the next election,“Republicans in Virginia, Pennsylvania and Michigan want to change the way they award electoral votes. They aren’t trying to improve the system, they only want to change the electoral process for some people….”
Republicans aren’t trying to change red states like Kansas. Oh, no. Kansas is fine, thank you very much. Republicans want to change the rules in these blue states currently controlled by Republicans:Michigan, Florida, Ohio, Virginia, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Under their new rules,Republicans would have gotten an extra 45 electoral votes for Mitt Romney.
Bob Shrum summed it up as a felonious assault on elections,“What’s going on here is a felonious assault on free elections. It’s an attempt to gerrymander the presidency. If you think about it, you could argue that the Republicans haven’t won the presidency on the up and up since 1988.”
Yes, he went there. He continued,“They stole 2000, when they stole Florida with the complicity of the Supreme Court. In 2004, they engaged in massive voter suppression. People in Ohio had to wait 8-10 hours to vote and tens of thousands of them couldn’t wait 8-10 hours. They tried it again in 2012 and they lost. They can’t win the presidency so what they want to do is institutionalize a system where the loser wins… This is a kind of Soviet style elections.”
Not only did Bob Shrum just admit on national TV that Republicans stole 2000 and most likely 2004 (this is something not mentioned by MSM, but the facts are the facts), but he also likened Republican elections to Soviet style elections.
Republicans know they can’t win without cheating and disenfranchsing large groups of the electorate. At some point, it might be easier if they just changed their policies in order to actually attract real voters. Obviously they don’t feel that would pay off or they would do it.
The real question Americans should be asking themselves is just what is the huge payoff that makes Republicans so willing to risk continuing to lose elections and having to resort to
cheating to win? We know their Southern Strategy is on its Strategy meant to hide? That is the real question.
We have had a loser, that won, in the whitehouse going on five years now.
When they say the buck stops here, he really did.
Ha
the Majestic Fking MB

Great Falls, MT

#6 Jan 23, 2013
Spooner wrote:
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We have had a loser, that won, in the whitehouse going on five years now.
When they say the buck stops here, he really did.
Ha
the american people voted him in. if you don't like it, move.
Spooner

Hattiesburg, MS

#7 Jan 23, 2013
the Majestic Fking MB wrote:
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the american people voted him in. if you don't like it, move.
American on paper, but not the red blooded Americans.
Mexicans, queers, lesbians, asians, atheist, blacks, baby killers, pot heads, muslims, thats who put him in, and back in. you know it, and I know it.
And as for moving my blood runs red white, and blue, I was born here and I will die here sonny !
the Majestic Fking MB

Great Falls, MT

#8 Jan 23, 2013
Spooner wrote:
<quoted text>
American on paper, but not the red blooded Americans.
Mexicans, queers, lesbians, asians, atheist, blacks, baby killers, pot heads, muslims, thats who put him in, and back in. you know it, and I know it.
And as for moving my blood runs red white, and blue, I was born here and I will die here sonny !
ah, so you're saying that the people you mentioned are not actually americans, gotcha.

how does it feel being marginalized by society?
Spooner

Hattiesburg, MS

#9 Jan 23, 2013
the Majestic Fking MB wrote:
<quoted text>
ah, so you're saying that the people you mentioned are not actually americans, gotcha.
how does it feel being marginalized by society?
Can you not read, the people I mentioned I said were Americans on paper, which means they are American. They just don't have Americas best interest at heart. Each group has its own agenda, and there's several groups under the democratic partys tent. When you have this many people trying to change the laws, and the constitution it can't work for the good of the country.
Gotcha, really, you can type it, but it don't make it so. Junior
godly man

Bozeman, MT

#10 Jan 23, 2013
Spooner wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you not read, the people I mentioned I said were Americans on paper, which means they are American. They just don't have Americas best interest at heart. Each group has its own agenda, and there's several groups under the democratic partys tent. When you have this many people trying to change the laws, and the constitution it can't work for the good of the country.
Gotcha, really, you can type it, but it don't make it so. Junior
no, it really is a gotcha, because you just outed yourself as a racist, homophobic, misogynistic asshole. you may have just broke some kind of record in hate. it astounding really that you are so non-chalant about it. what's even scarier is that no one else besides me has even bothered to point out just awful what you said really was.

but anyway, you kinda shot your credibility there, so... you know...

gotcha.
godly man

Bozeman, MT

#11 Jan 23, 2013
it's funny that you think you were part of some nobler time.

the truth is, you're really just another dumb, gullible, mean, old, white man who doesn't matter any more.

congrats on your crumbling empire. you earned it.
godly man

Bozeman, MT

#12 Jan 23, 2013
and while i'm thinking about it, the same sentiments are true for the republican party. their propaganda-driven, slave-waged, white christian man's kingdom they tried to build deserved to topple.

and now, they really show their true colors by resorting to gerrymandering(read:cheating) to try to win back the power they lost. to betray the core principles of democracy for what? for greed? for ignorance?

it's appalling. i hope it's a miserable fall from power for all of them (save a few, ron paul comes to mind).

i also hope it's a miserable fall for all the people out there dumb enough to support them. didn't you realize they were trying to rob you blind? of course you didn't, you're all idiots.

and that's why i keep coming back here... to tell you that you're all idiots.
Spooner

Hattiesburg, MS

#13 Jan 23, 2013
godly man wrote:
it's funny that you think you were part of some nobler time.
the truth is, you're really just another dumb, gullible, mean, old, white man who doesn't matter any more.
congrats on your crumbling empire. you earned it.
Dumb, gullible, mean, old, white man ?
And you call me racist. Boy
Spooner

Hattiesburg, MS

#14 Jan 23, 2013
godly man wrote:
<quoted text>
no, it really is a gotcha, because you just outed yourself as a racist, homophobic, misogynistic asshole. you may have just broke some kind of record in hate. it astounding really that you are so non-chalant about it. what's even scarier is that no one else besides me has even bothered to point out just awful what you said really was.
but anyway, you kinda shot your credibility there, so... you know...
gotcha.
You are either, queer, lesbian, black, mexican, asain, atheist, I would guess, but I will tell you what you're not, and that is the name you decided to post under. Kid
What I said was that if you fell under one of thease groups you fell under the democratic tent, and you voted for obama. Look up the stats, and tell me im wrong. Baby
Spooner

Hattiesburg, MS

#15 Jan 23, 2013
godly man wrote:
and while i'm thinking about it, the same sentiments are true for the republican party. their propaganda-driven, slave-waged, white christian man's kingdom they tried to build deserved to topple.
and now, they really show their true colors by resorting to gerrymandering(read:cheating) to try to win back the power they lost. to betray the core principles of democracy for what? for greed? for ignorance?
it's appalling. i hope it's a miserable fall from power for all of them (save a few, ron paul comes to mind).
i also hope it's a miserable fall for all the people out there dumb enough to support them. didn't you realize they were trying to rob you blind? of course you didn't, you're all idiots.
and that's why i keep coming back here... to tell you that you're all idiots.
Ron Paul, really. Says alot about you.
Kid
USAunderGOD

United States

#16 Jan 24, 2013
the Majestic Fking MB wrote:
so, are you saying that you don't want to know when democracy is being crushed?
I pledge allegiance to the flag (not Obama) of the United Southern States of America & to the Republic for which it stands , ONE NATION UNDER GOD , Indivisible with Liberty & Justice for All.
the Majestic Fking MB

Great Falls, MT

#17 Jan 24, 2013
USAunderGOD wrote:
<quoted text> I pledge allegiance to the flag (not Obama) of the United Southern States of America & to the Republic for which it stands , ONE NATION UNDER GOD , Indivisible with Liberty & Justice for All.
one nation under god was added to the pledge in the 50's. it wasn't part of the original pledge. it's only there because christian fundamentalists pushed their agenda through.

everybody has an agenda. you're not special. we're all americans.
USAunderGOD

Fort Worth, TX

#19 Jan 24, 2013
I'm America people have always had the right to worship any god they chose.

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