FB Group "One Nation under God" gets ...

FB Group "One Nation under God" gets owned

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the Majestic Fking MB

Great Falls, MT

#1 Feb 11, 2013
Facebook Group "One Nation under God" tries to use Thomas Jefferson to support the idea that this is a Christian nation. This is one response.. Not mine, but a good one..

Hey cool - Thomas Jefferson quotes. He was a complicated man and a true genius. I especially loved his book, "The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth." Have you read it? He sat down with scissors and glue, cut up his Bible, and meticulously pasted only the portions that he actually BELIEVED were the teachings of Jesus. According to President Jefferson, Christ's teachings are "as easily distinguished as diamonds in a dunghill." The rest of the Bible? Propaganda wrapped in mysticism and pagan idolatry. Take a look at your Bible - now shrink it down to just 46 pages. Impressive, right?

“And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.”—Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

A majority of our founding father were more accurately described as Deists - believing that a creator god does exist, but that a being of such infinite power would have no interest in making course-corrections by interceding in human affairs. And then, of course, there's that pesky Establishment Clause that those who worship Republican Jesus tend to forget in these conversations. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" is NOT an ambiguous statement. It should come as no surprise that Thomas Jefferson also wrote the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom. You knew that, right?

The single greatest threat this country faces today are the religious zealots who have infested the halls of government. President Jefferson warned us that "History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose."

You are free to believe whatever you wish in this country. You are NOT free to establish any law that forces me to comply with your beliefs. If we're going to attempt to follow Christ's perfect example in our everyday lives, we need to begin by telling each other the truth. During this past election cycle, besieged by the blatant falsehoods of the Republican party, I would say to anyone who asked, "Tell the truth. Do it often." Thank goodness truth actually won.

Here on this page, you might try doing just that. If you're going to use Thomas Jefferson quotes as ballast for your belief that this is "One Nation Under God," then have the courage to paint a complete picture of the man.

"The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind and adulterated by artificial constructions into a contrivance to filch wealth and power to themselves...these clergy, in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ." Have fun at church. Tell God I said hello.

You're welcome.

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Real world

Lucedale, MS

#2 Feb 11, 2013
So, if you think this is a good one, does that mean you possibly believe in a supreme being and/or the teachings of Jesus?
the Majestic Fking MB

Great Falls, MT

#3 Feb 11, 2013
i think the teachings of jesus are a decent philosophy and i entertain the idea of agnosticism.
wowowow

United States

#4 Feb 11, 2013
Your user name automatically disqualified me reading your garbage post. Use some courtesy and sense.
the Majestic Fking MB

Great Falls, MT

#5 Feb 11, 2013
wowowow wrote:
Your user name automatically disqualified me reading your garbage post. Use some courtesy and sense.
but yet, here you are, commenting on it.

here, let me shorten it for you:

thomas jefferson was a deist and made it clear that he didn't want christianity dictating law.
wowowow

Tupelo, MS

#6 Feb 11, 2013
There is no law without religion in which it came from. The feel good do what you want society will destroy itself
the Majestic Fking MB

Great Falls, MT

#7 Feb 11, 2013
wowowow wrote:
There is no law without religion in which it came from. The feel good do what you want society will destroy itself
false. your old, dogmatic society is already crumbling from within. the stone age is over. laws should be based on reason and not superstition.

if you wanna say that we wouldn't have law without religion, then whose religion shall it be based on? moses laws wouldn't exist were it not for the babylonians and sumerians, so should we venerate their gods too?

your logic is flawed.
wowowow

Tupelo, MS

#8 Feb 11, 2013
You are out there really, wow.
WE THE PEOPLE

United States

#9 Feb 11, 2013
PEACE/|\
Wwjd

Bozeman, MT

#10 Feb 11, 2013
In the age of information, ignorance is a choice
yoo hoo

Wausau, WI

#11 Feb 12, 2013
i'm glad i live in my nation under god
godly man

Bozeman, MT

#12 Feb 12, 2013
yoo hoo wrote:
i'm glad i live in my nation under god
yeah... you don't

it's a secular nation. deal with it.
yoo hoo

Wausau, WI

#13 Feb 12, 2013
godly man wrote:
<quoted text>
yeah... you don't
it's a secular nation. deal with it.
yeah... i do
the Majestic Fking MB

Great Falls, MT

#14 Feb 12, 2013
yoo hoo wrote:
<quoted text>yeah... i do
the supreme court as well as the last 200 years of american history begs to differ.
wowowow

Tupelo, MS

#15 Feb 12, 2013
Blah blah blah, hates idea of god, blah blah blah, people with beliefs are stupid, blah blah blah i dont have a life, blah blah, lets attack people who think different than me, blah blah
godly man

Bozeman, MT

#16 Feb 12, 2013
say what you want about me, just remember that you've been shown the truth
outdated

United States

#17 Feb 14, 2013
the Majestic Fking MB wrote:
Facebook Group "One Nation under God" tries to use Thomas Jefferson to support the idea that this is a Christian nation. This is one response.. Not mine, but a good one..
Hey cool - Thomas Jefferson quotes. He was a complicated man and a true genius. I especially loved his book, "The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth." Have you read it? He sat down with scissors and glue, cut up his Bible, and meticulously pasted only the portions that he actually BELIEVED were the teachings of Jesus. According to President Jefferson, Christ's teachings are "as easily distinguished as diamonds in a dunghill." The rest of the Bible? Propaganda wrapped in mysticism and pagan idolatry. Take a look at your Bible - now shrink it down to just 46 pages. Impressive, right?
“And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.”—Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823
A majority of our founding father were more accurately described as Deists - believing that a creator god does exist, but that a being of such infinite power would have no interest in making course-corrections by interceding in human affairs. And then, of course, there's that pesky Establishment Clause that those who worship Republican Jesus tend to forget in these conversations. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" is NOT an ambiguous statement. It should come as no surprise that Thomas Jefferson also wrote the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom. You knew that, right?
The single greatest threat this country faces today are the religious zealots who have infested the halls of government. President Jefferson warned us that "History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose."
You are free to believe whatever you wish in this country. You are NOT free to establish any law that forces me to comply with your beliefs. If we're going to attempt to follow Christ's perfect example in our everyday lives, we need to begin by telling each other the truth. During this past election cycle, besieged by the blatant falsehoods of the Republican party, I would say to anyone who asked, "Tell the truth. Do it often." Thank goodness truth actually won.
Here on this page, you might try doing just that. If you're going to use Thomas Jefferson quotes as ballast for your belief that this is "One Nation Under God," then have the courage to paint a complete picture of the man.
"The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind and adulterated by artificial constructions into a contrivance to filch wealth and power to themselves...these clergy, in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ." Have fun at church. Tell God I said hello.
You're welcome.
http://i.imgur.com/I0LhU8H.png
it's one nation under CHINA
Naive

Fremantle, Australia

#18 Feb 22, 2013
wowowow wrote:
Blah blah blah, hates idea of god, blah blah blah, people with beliefs are stupid, blah blah blah i dont have a life, blah blah, lets attack people who think different than me, blah blah
"Lets attack people who think different than me"....hmm, seems rather contradictory here.
wowowow

Tupelo, MS

#19 Feb 22, 2013
Wasnt started by me, they can not believe in God all they want, just dont attack me for believing.
Naive

Fremantle, Australia

#20 Feb 22, 2013
wowowow wrote:
Wasnt started by me, they can not believe in God all they want, just dont attack me for believing.
That is true but others would though.

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