Knox-Whitley Animal Shelter

Since: Nov 08

Ripley, TN

#21 Nov 24, 2008
do they have a website where we can go and see the pets for adoption?
DONT KNOW

Somerset, KY

#22 Nov 24, 2008
I DONT KNOW IF THEY HAVE A WEBSITE.
Here and There

Brownsville, TN

#23 Nov 26, 2008
www.knoxwhitleyanimalshelter.com But I dont' think they have updated it in the past year.
Ya Think

AOL

#24 Nov 26, 2008
This was my experience with the animal shelter . Last week I took a sick pitiful stray dog to them to put it to sleep and out of it's misery. I was treated very good by Amy and the other lady. Amy immediately took the dog in and looked at it , then uthenized it.She may have been having a bad time of the day when some of you people with bad comments were there, maybe she had just had to put one to sleep that had loving eyes looking at her.To my knowledge the leadership and the board of directors has changed lately. They are good people, with the animals of the shelter being their top priority. People please support your shelter.
Puddin

United States

#26 Nov 26, 2008
Everyone there is nice 2 me.

“Yep, this is me ”

Since: Nov 08

Corbin

#27 Nov 26, 2008
Rachael Noell wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Rachael SHUT THE F$CK UP!!!!!!! To bad your suicide attempt did not work. You sick homewreckin bitch!!! Go back and take care of your kids.
I wish I alone could take credit for the "not a fan" Post. However the information was in the paper, therefore it's public knowledge...meaning people know. Had I thought posting on this forum would have made a difference, I would have listed each of those violations. After all, I'm the one who reported them (the violations) to the board.

With that being said, I presented the information to the board only after telling the "Dictator" of those violations and being met with the threat of being fired. The information was given to the board, at their request by the way, in order to bring to light the compromising situation, you can't fix it if you don't know it's broken. In case you missed part of that, the board came to me for help, not the other way around. My objective was to help any way that I could, my efforts were not intended to be taken as a personal attack against the "Dictator". Therefore I will appologize for stepping on anyones toes.

As for shutting the _______ up. I would not have posted had someone, and I'm guessing "The Shelters Dictator", hadn't launched a personal attack using my real name.

I wish you all a happy Thanksgiving, and yes everyone should help with the shelter. It isn't anything any one person can fix, it takes the support and effort of the entire community. Despite anyones personal feelings. It isn't about who we like and who we do not like. It's about doing the right thing and being responsible for our actions.

I will be thanking God for all his blessing, I have much to be thankful for on this Turkey day. The love of God, a wonderful husband, my beautiful children and my health.

I suggest you all do the same, and let sleeping dogs lie.
Mr Noell

Ripley, TN

#29 Nov 26, 2008
Rachael Noell wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Rachael SHUT THE F$CK UP!!!!!!! To bad your suicide attempt did not work. You sick homewreckin bitch!!! Go back and take care of your kids.
Wow, I'll give everyone three guesses as to who posted those nasty things about Mrs. Noell up there, and the first two don't count. Come on, if you're gonna post something so nasty, at least have the guts to take credit for it. There's a word for that...hmm, let me think...oh yeah, "COWARD". We all know who posted that, so step up, you sociopathic egomaniac! Give us all a name to go with your potty mouth.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it wasn't a well written post...everything was spelled correctly and the author obviously used most of his/her vocabulary writing it, but it does show a certain lack of class...and an incredible lack of intelligence. Of course, the author is obviously extremely threatened and insanely jealous of Rachael...doesn't take a PHD to figure that out...but to be so open about it is somewhat surprising to me. I mean think about it, this person could have posted a well thought out response talking about how great the shelter was doing and that everything was fine...but that may have required using words that consisted of more than 4 letters.
The truth of it is, the Animal Shelter is a wreck, and that responsibility falls on the current "Director". I'm sure it has a few decent days here and there, but overall, it's animal purgatory, and I wouldn't take a sick rat down there. The 'coff coff' Director would probably just leave it in a room with a healthy animal so they'd both have to be euthanized. There is a lot of formal training needed to properly run a Shelter, and I'm sorry but no, working in a Veterinary Office does not count. They are two completely different things that require two very different skill and knowledge sets. That is in no way meant to be any type of insult, it is just the truth. Shelter work is very different from Veterinary work in many ways.
To the general public who may be reading this...please, please, please support your local shelter, regardless of the shape that it is in. Without your support, nothing will ever change for the better. Happy Holidays to all!
HEY

Somerset, KY

#30 Nov 27, 2008
you know what rachell, whjat about you when youm worked there. when you didnt euthanize a cat the right way, BECAUSE YOU WERENT TRAINED TO EUTHANIZE, OR YOU WERENT CERTIFIED EITHER,AND BECAUSE JASON WAS TO LAZY TO EUTHANIZE. REMEMBER THAT F-N CAT? WHY DID IT FLIP IN ITS CAGE AND HAVE MASSIVE SEIZURES, BEFORE IT DEPARTURED? AND WHY THE FUCK DID YOU THINK THAT WAS FUNNY?!?!! THAT IS THE WORST FORM OF ANIMAL CRUELTY I EVER IMAGINED, BUT COME ON DENY THAT TOO, BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL THE INTELLIGENT WORDS SWEETHEART. BUT IF YOUR GONNA TALK ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE, AND NOT LOOK AT YOUR OWN ACTIONS, BETTER MAKE SURE ITS WORTH IT.
HEY

Somerset, KY

#31 Nov 27, 2008
RACHEL, THE BOARD WOULD BE MAKING A MUCH BIGGER MISTAKE, IF THEY LET YOU COME BACK. your more worried, about you getting attention, then the animals being treated good. i dont trust you around my cat if it was DEAD!!!! you are a piss poor excuse to reality, and this power struggle going on with the board needs to stop. we have animals to think of dammit'!
lauren

Somerset, KY

#32 Nov 27, 2008
Rachel, if you wanted your job back, you wouldnt have walked in there, using the phone every 2 seconds, and already sabatoging your job. because you are there to do a job. not TRY TO TAKE Over!I'm noticing that all this is a power struggle. if you care about the animals so much, you wouldnt have worried about being director. We already have one. you were a euthanasia tech.. that was your position, like my position was to clean kennels and be a receptionist. Yeah let the sleeping dogs lie. dont get me wrong, I liked the techniques you used at the shelter a few years back. I use them there now. I dont have a problem with you, or anyone for that matter. I just try not to step on peoples toes. My job is simply what I stated it was cleaning kennels and receptionist, and thats just as important as being a director,
except i have more of an opportunity, to react with the animals:) I wish you and your husband, and the board a wonderful and safe thanksgiving:) may god bless you all:)
LAUREN

Somerset, KY

#33 Nov 27, 2008
oh and by the way, the two posts before my last one, was not from me, just so you would know. take care
ONE WHO KNOWS

AOL

#34 Nov 27, 2008
The shelter does the dirty job that uncaring members of the community create, by not caring for, by abusing, and by not spaying or neutering their animals. It is not happy work for anyone who cares about animals and is easily capable of creating a bad mood in those that "pick up" after the public.
This is an area where jobs and opportunities are few and there have been continuous attempts by job-seekers, disgruntled former shelter employees and other to undermine those attempting to provide this area with animal control, rescue and adoptions.
There have been those, and there are today, those who want "in" so they can pilfer, steal, and otherwise use the shelter for their own purposes.
They are constantly looking for an angle that they can use to discredit the shelter so that they can "move in" for their own benefit.
The current staff are doing the best that can be done with the support that they receive. They deserve the support of the public! THE PUBLIC OWES THEM!

“Yep, this is me ”

Since: Nov 08

Corbin

#35 Nov 27, 2008
HEY wrote:
you know what rachell, whjat about you when youm worked there. when you didnt euthanize a cat the right way, BECAUSE YOU WERENT TRAINED TO EUTHANIZE, OR YOU WERENT CERTIFIED EITHER,AND BECAUSE JASON WAS TO LAZY TO EUTHANIZE. REMEMBER THAT F-N CAT? WHY DID IT FLIP IN ITS CAGE AND HAVE MASSIVE SEIZURES, BEFORE IT DEPARTURED? AND WHY THE FUCK DID YOU THINK THAT WAS FUNNY?!?!! THAT IS THE WORST FORM OF ANIMAL CRUELTY I EVER IMAGINED, BUT COME ON DENY THAT TOO, BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL THE INTELLIGENT WORDS SWEETHEART. BUT IF YOUR GONNA TALK ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE, AND NOT LOOK AT YOUR OWN ACTIONS, BETTER MAKE SURE ITS WORTH IT.
You need to get your facts straight, I had already recieved my euthanasia traning and certification,(National Animal Control Assiciation) before I ever layed hands on the first animal. My first Euthanasia was performed with the direct suprrivision of one of the top verterinarians in our area.

Yes I have had animals react poorly to the Phenobarb used to euthanise. If you are referring to the Interparatinial Form of injection used on Ferral Cats, then you really don't have a clue as to what you are speaking of.

Do you think it more humane to freak the cat out by trapping it, then placing it in a cat bag, forcing it's leg to be held down to the point that it hurts, and then trying to find a vein on a cat that is smaller in diameter than the lead in a pencil, while the cat is freaking out all the while? The method I prefer to use on feral cats is the one taught to me, again, by a Nationally Board Certified Veterinarian.

You may also want to study exactly how sodium Phenobarbital actually works. Oh, and the possible side effects of the drug. Regardless of how it's administered it works the same way. The first stop is to the brain, where it works as an anisthetic, THE ANIMAL FEELS NO PAIN, once it has recieved the injection. Then the phenobarb, stops the muscles or nervous system, and the sodium stops the heart. Even after the animal has passed, it will still twitch.

The differnce between IV and IP methods is nothing more than the time it takes for the drug to reach it's full effect. The IV is a matter of seconds where the IP takes a few minutes.

I personally hate that any animal has to be euthanised. The fact that is has came down to this, breaks my heart. However, it is, at this point, required. Because people are still neglecting to fix thier animals. I would rather see something pass away than to witness it's suffering and afflictions. Just my personal feelings.

You can say what you like, I am not perfect and I have never claimed to be. I know what and who I am. Those who matter to me know as well. As far as the person behind the post, or anyone who feels the same way it matters not to me.

Again, I am using my real name, and Kudos to Lauren for doing the same. A post of this degree with the real name attached isn't worth the time put into creating it.
Mr Noell

Brownsville, TN

#36 Nov 27, 2008
HEY wrote:
you know what rachell, whjat about you when youm worked there. when you didnt euthanize a cat the right way, BECAUSE YOU WERENT TRAINED TO EUTHANIZE, OR YOU WERENT CERTIFIED EITHER,AND BECAUSE JASON WAS TO LAZY TO EUTHANIZE. REMEMBER THAT F-N CAT? WHY DID IT FLIP IN ITS CAGE AND HAVE MASSIVE SEIZURES, BEFORE IT DEPARTURED? AND WHY THE FUCK DID YOU THINK THAT WAS FUNNY?!?!! THAT IS THE WORST FORM OF ANIMAL CRUELTY I EVER IMAGINED, BUT COME ON DENY THAT TOO, BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL THE INTELLIGENT WORDS SWEETHEART. BUT IF YOUR GONNA TALK ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE, AND NOT LOOK AT YOUR OWN ACTIONS, BETTER MAKE SURE ITS WORTH IT.
AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Wow...I'm not sure where to begin. First off, if your going to post on this forum, you shouldn't let a first grader write it for you...and if an adult wrote that, your english teacher must be very, very proud. There are adult education classes for people like you, in case your interested.

As far as the what the post actually said (after I deciphered it using my Idiot to English dictionary), my wife has already explained it very well. We have both forgotten more about running a shelter and caring for animals than any of the current staff. We have more training, experience and certifications than any other shelter worker between Lexington and Knoxville. We don't owe anyone any explanations for the way we did our jobs. We know we did a good job and so does everyone else who ever worked with us.

As far as this being a power struggle, don't kid yourself, we've both moved on. The only time we ever get involved is at the request of board members or government officials who know that we knew what we were doing and wish we were still there. Everything we do from this point on is to try and make the situation better for the animals housed there and for a community that deserves better than what it is getting from their shelter.

As always, Happy Holidays to all!

“Hate me, love me...Who Cares”

Since: Nov 08

Los Angeles

#37 Nov 27, 2008
I have always had good dealings with the shelter. I have not been there in a few years, but the guy who ran the place really cared about animals, and Rachel also seemed to care about animals. The current Board, whoever they are, if you are having that many problems, and really care about the animals, why not find some better to sit on the board. If it's really about the animals and not the people, why not step down and find someone that is more expierenced in this line of work.

Because you run a business in a small town, and make a profit, does not mean you can run ANY kind of business.(Yes the animal shelter is a business, even if it is a non profit)

Oh I forgot this is a small town and only the elite few are permitted to run it.

Anyone with any brains can figure out who I am, and they will also know that I am not afraid of anyone in Corbin blackmailing or putting me on some type of CRAPLIST!

(LONG LIVE S. Vanilla)

“Hate me, love me...Who Cares”

Since: Nov 08

Los Angeles

#38 Nov 27, 2008
Feel free to correct my grammatical errors. I know it's just killing you!

“Yep, this is me ”

Since: Nov 08

Corbin

#39 Nov 27, 2008
lauren wrote:
Rachel, if you wanted your job back, you wouldnt have walked in there, using the phone every 2 seconds, and already sabatoging your job. because you are there to do a job. not TRY TO TAKE Over!I'm noticing that all this is a power struggle. if you care about the animals so much, you wouldnt have worried about being director. We already have one. you were a euthanasia tech.. that was your position, like my position was to clean kennels and be a receptionist. Yeah let the sleeping dogs lie. dont get me wrong, I liked the techniques you used at the shelter a few years back. I use them there now. I dont have a problem with you, or anyone for that matter. I just try not to step on peoples toes. My job is simply what I stated it was cleaning kennels and receptionist, and thats just as important as being a director,
except i have more of an opportunity, to react with the animals:) I wish you and your husband, and the board a wonderful and safe thanksgiving:) may god bless you all:)
I wasn't brought in as a "E" tech. I was asked to get the shelter back within the guidelines set for shelters by the state. I wasn't even looking for a job, my husband makes good money. I didn't go in looking to take anything over. The phone calls I made were to request free animal adoption spots on the radio, newspapers, etc. They were also an attempt to see what other funds I could bring in for the organization.

Also, I wasn't fired, I left of my own account after seeing what was really going on. I took the information gathered, and handed it over to the board. I have done my best to assist those who have asked for my help.(The people who live on Meadow Creek Road, along with members of the Board.)

Now you can take this with a grain of salt. I know where you stand, and I also know you stand there only because Rose was fired. I would suggest you start looking for a back up plan now, because the second you have conflict with the director you will be gone so fasy your head won't even have time to spin. If you look you'll see a pattern with the high rate of employee turnover.

The subject of the shelter is nothing more than a headache for me. I personally have no desire to be involved. But if some one asks my opinion, I will give it. If someone is in need of my help, I will give it. But that is as far as my concerns go. The shelter is Amy's and she can keep it.

For me it's like having something wonderful that you created taken away, then broken into a million peices and handed back to you. No thanks I think I'll pass.
Mr Noell

Brownsville, TN

#40 Nov 27, 2008
Mike from Corbin wrote:
I have always had good dealings with the shelter. I have not been there in a few years, but the guy who ran the place really cared about animals, and Rachel also seemed to care about animals. The current Board, whoever they are, if you are having that many problems, and really care about the animals, why not find some better to sit on the board. If it's really about the animals and not the people, why not step down and find someone that is more expierenced in this line of work.
Because you run a business in a small town, and make a profit, does not mean you can run ANY kind of business.(Yes the animal shelter is a business, even if it is a non profit)
Oh I forgot this is a small town and only the elite few are permitted to run it.
Anyone with any brains can figure out who I am, and they will also know that I am not afraid of anyone in Corbin blackmailing or putting me on some type of CRAPLIST!
(LONG LIVE S. Vanilla)
Well said! I have no idea who you are, but you are obviously very intelligent...and probably pretty good with computers if I had to make a guess. Actually, I kind of feel like I know you...hmmmm.

Oh yeah, just so you know, the Corbin craplist isn't too bad...

(S. Chocolate is my hero)
Mr Noell

Brownsville, TN

#41 Nov 27, 2008
ONE WHO KNOWS wrote:
The shelter does the dirty job that uncaring members of the community create, by not caring for, by abusing, and by not spaying or neutering their animals. It is not happy work for anyone who cares about animals and is easily capable of creating a bad mood in those that "pick up" after the public.
This is an area where jobs and opportunities are few and there have been continuous attempts by job-seekers, disgruntled former shelter employees and other to undermine those attempting to provide this area with animal control, rescue and adoptions.
There have been those, and there are today, those who want "in" so they can pilfer, steal, and otherwise use the shelter for their own purposes.
They are constantly looking for an angle that they can use to discredit the shelter so that they can "move in" for their own benefit.
The current staff are doing the best that can be done with the support that they receive. They deserve the support of the public! THE PUBLIC OWES THEM!
Speaking of adoptions, what is the shelter's current adoption rate? Oh yeah, I forgot, the current director doesn't keep records on the animals. The only records, or information to be had period, comes straight from the director's mouth, no fact-based statistics or information is actaully collected. Very smart if you don't want anyone to actually know the stats. Love her or hate her, the woman certainly has the wool pulled over a lot of eyes.

If the author of the above post just HAPPENS to be someone who is still involved with the shelter, then please, do some digging. Get more directly involved and find out exactly what is going on. Put the animals and the community first and the politics and general unpleasantness of the current director second. Be objective and ask yourself if you would want one of your family pets to be in the shelter for a few weeks. If you don't like what you see, then stand up and speak your mind. I understand it is risky, take it from someone who knows firsthand how risky, but if you have a chance to make a difference, then do it. That place needs good people standing up for the way things should be, and not sitting back and being content with the way things are and turning a blind eye to some very serious problems. Good luck to you, either way.

And once more, just for old times sake...neither of the former employees that have been posting here wants a job at the shelter. We have both moved on to bigger and better things, and our family can't afford the paycut.
lAUREN

Somerset, KY

#42 Nov 27, 2008
and rachel by no means was i trying to criticize you. I like what you did there, when i volunteered a few years back. i understand where your coming from with amy firing me, but as long as i dont step on her toes, we will be fine. Rose was fired from what i heard because she crossed the line with amy, by TRYING TO TAKE HER JOB AWAY. i heard rose was telling everyone she was the director, and so forth, and behind amys back she was trying to egt amys position. As far as i am concerned, i wouldnt try to take another employees position if my life depended on it. Honestly thats rude, and very very unprofessional if you ask me. Im there hired on to be a kennel/ receptionsist. not a director. Let's say amy found a better paying job, somewhere else, doing what she does best, if the board asked me to move up, then i would, but i wont voluntarily do that. Thats very disrespectful. I ask amy first before i put my 2 sense into anything. If it involves a certain way of feeding, to cleaning, to even fostering! yeah im fostering, 2 kittens, one that is not weaned and i feed every 4 hours, by syringe, and another kitten that is weaned, and a mother cat, that just recently ran out of her natural milk:(
so, i try to do my bes there, it is a passion to me, i enjoy that, and amy is aware that i love my job, she just wants to trust that her employees, are not doing things behind her back. I am one of the few employees that have worked there, to not step on her toes. number one i have no right, and number 2 why should i try for? thats just so shady. and again unprofessional. I believe as far as the board is concerned, they are happy with amys work there, or else they wouldve done something. So as far as im concerned, there is nothing wrong with amy and her job, she is an excellent director, with alot of potential. she runs the shelter very well i think. So if anyone wants to continue to dog amy, then you know go right ahead, it doesnt bother her anyways, because she doesnt allow it too, and also shes mature. thanks again, to anyone that is supporting the knox-whitley animal shelter, thanks for your support.

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