Obama - Biden ... Osama bin Laden

[Sends A Chill]

Obama - Biden ... Osama bin Laden.

Hmmm ...

[oh no]

saw on cnn tv obama biden and thought i was hellusinating osama bin laden

[Solan Rai]

BUSH + CHENEY
OMG!!! We're all going to die chained to the bushes! LOL
Fear makes idiots out of people.
www.solraicafe.com

[Judgement Days Ahead]

USA better be prepared.

Obama - Biden ... Osama bin Laden.

U cut the head off one, two come back..

Wake up people.

[Charles Hansing]

Biden is a racist, insulting East Indians and Blacks everywhere. He stated all East Indians work in 7/11, and he also stated that Obama was the first black man that he met that was articulate and clean - so the others you've known over the years are not?
Sad.

[HulaHoop]

It's good to see that McCain supporters have finally learned to use a computer. Welcome to the 21st century! Now, let's debate some actual issues. State a fact. Gimme something to work with here. Whatya got?

[hmmm]

HulaHoop wrote:

It's good to see that McCain supporters have finally learned to use a computer. Welcome to the 21st century! Now, let's debate some actual issues. State a fact. Gimme something to work with here. Whatya got?

How's this: Obama had only served 143 actual days in the Senate before he decided to run. His pastor is a racist. His church's website (www.tucc.org ) clearly states that they honor their "mother country Africa" instead of their own country, Obama believes in abortion (i.e. killing babies), he will not salute the flag, he recently had the American flag removed from his plane because he said "it was a sign of oppression" .... need more you fool????

[HulaHoop]

Point #1: I don't think George Washington served any days in the Senate before he was elected president. Further, one could spend decades in the Senate and still have bad judgement. And as a result of their less-than-stellar judgement, be unfit to lead the Country. Time served doesn't equal good judgement or fitness for office. It just means you spent a lot time in the Senate and very little time in the world that the rest of us inhabit. I'm going off the top of my head, but Jackson, Grant and ummm, George W. Bush never spent any time inside the Senate prior to being elected President.

Point #2: Do you agree with ever thing your pastor says? Truly? Everything? How about your wife, brother, etc? I'm sure you don't feel ownership for every single boneheaded comment made by your friends & family. However, guilt by association is a long-standing negative political tactic. Why? It's easy and it generally works. There's always a Billy Carter hiding in the closet.
When Obama realized that his pastor had gone way out on a limb and was just spewing craziness, he cut ties. How many times have you had to walk away from a friendship because that person and you no longer saw eye-to-eye?
Additionally, most black people in America trace their roots to Africa. How is it different than the Masonics who trace their roots back to the Scottish Rite and/or The Fighting Irish? America is a Country of immigrants. Pretty much no one but the American Indians can say that they don't have roots (and sympathies) toward the land of their ancestors.
I'm guessing that your ancestors are probably English, Scotch or Irish. Pretty much everyone from Eastern KY is descended from those groups.
Is it subversive for Irish-Americans to announce their love of Ireland? Have you ever been to Boston around St. Patrick's Day. There's plenty of "Danny Boy" and "When Irish Eyes Are Smiling". How is that different? Same sentiment, different country. Different skin color. Catholic, not Protestant.

Point #3: Obama believes in a woman's right to choose. So do I. We're on the same page on this one. Sorry. But it's legal. The United States Supreme Court says so. By the way, John McCain is actually pro-choice (at least he's live-and-let-live). He's simply stopped saying it since he's been on the campaign trail. Why? It's what you want to hear. You realize that McCain is going to pick a pro-choice running mate don't you? An appeal to the disinfranchised Hillary supporters.

Point #4: Obama won't salute the flag? Seriously? You've been listening to too much Rush Limbaugh. Check the link below. There is ONE photo that has been circulated by the Right that is offered up as proof that Obama will NEVER salute the flag. It's ONE photo. As in singular. Do you know how often he has been photographed on the campaign trail? Don't you think that if this was an on-going thing, there'd be A LOT more photos being paraded about on Fox News?
The fact is that you don't know what was occurring at the moment that photo was snapped. It could have been taken in the split second BEFORE he put his hand to his heart. I defy you to find a quote from any credible source that Obama REFUSES TO EVER SALUTE the flag EVER. Fox News doesn't count. This is a scare tactic used to play on anti-Muslim sympathies. Seems to be working on a certain subset of the population. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.a...

Point #5: I've searched and cannot find any info on Obama having the flag removed from his bus. Please provide a source and I'll get back to you after I've read it.

Point #6:
Call me whatever name you like. I'm no fool. You seem uninformed and umm angry. If you'd like to debate actual issues, I'll be here. I support your right to vote for whomever you choose. However, debate the issues fairly and with research to back up your statements. Don't call people names. It simply makes you look petulant. Best Regards.

[HulaHoop]

Point #1: I don't think George Washington served any days in the Senate before he was elected president. Further, one could spend decades in the Senate and still have bad judgement. And as a result of their less-than-stellar judgement, be unfit to lead the Country. Time served doesn't equal good judgement or fitness for office. It just means you spent a lot time in the Senate. I'm going off the top of my head, but Jackson, Grant and ummm, George W. Bush never spent any time inside the Senate prior to being elected President.

Point #2: Do you agree with ever thing your pastor says? Truly? Everything? How about your wife, brother, etc? I'm sure you don't feel ownership for every single boneheaded comment made by your friends & family. However, guilt by association is a long-standing negative political tactic. Why? It's easy and it generally works. There's always a Billy Carter hiding in the closet.
When Obama realized that his pastor had gone way out on a limb and was just spewing craziness, he cut ties. How many times have you had to walk away from a friendship because that person and you no longer saw eye-to-eye?
Alternately, most black people in America can trace their roots to Africa. How is it different than the Masonics who trace their roots back to the Scottish Rite and/or The Fighting Irish? America is a Country of immigrants. Pretty much no one but the American Indians can say that they don't have roots (and some sympathies) toward the land of their ancestors.
I'm guessing that your ancestors are probably English, Scotch or Irish. Pretty much everyone from Eastern KY is descended from those groups. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Is it subversive for Irish-Americans to announce their love of Ireland? Have you ever been to Boston around St. Patrick's Day. There's plenty of "Danny Boy" and "When Irish Eyes Are Smiling". How is that different? Same sentiment, different country. Different skin color. Catholic, not Protestant.

Point #3: Obama believes in a woman's right to choose. So do I. We're on the same page on this one. Sorry. But it's legal. The United States Supreme Court says so. By the way, John McCain is actually pro-choice (at least he's live-and-let-live). He's simply stopped saying it since he's been on the campaign trail. Why? It's what you want to hear. You realize that McCain is going to pick a pro-choice running mate don't you? An appeal to the disinfranchised Hilary supporters.

Point #4: Obama won't salute the flag? Seriously? You've just been listening to too much Rush Limbaugh on this one. Check the link below. There is ONE photo that has been circulated by the Right that is offered up as proof that Obama will NEVER salute the flag. It's ONE photo. As in singular.
Do you know how often he has been photographed on the campaign trail? Don't you think that if this was an on-going thing, there'd be A LOT more photos being paraded on Fox News?
The fact is that you don't know what was occurring at the moment that photo was snapped. It could have been taken in the split second BEFORE he put his hand to his heart. I defy you to find a quote from any credible source that Obama REFUSES TO EVER SALUTE the flag EVER. Fox News doesn't count. This is a scare tactic used to play on anti-Muslim sympathies. Seems to be working on a certain subset of the population. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.a...

Point #5: I've searched and cannot find any info on Obama having the flag removed from his bus. Please provide a source and I'll get back to you after I've read it.

Point #6:
Call me whatever name you like. I'm no fool. You seem uninformed and umm angry. If you'd like to debate actual issues, I'll be here. I support your right to vote for whomever you choose. However, debate the issues fairly and with research to back up your statements. Don't call people names. It simply makes you look petulant. Regards.

[hmmmm]

Here's a point for you Hula Hoop .... you posted the same thing twice. Just like a confused Obama fan.
1. George Washington was no Obama. We did not even have a government. He was our first President. That was a different time.
2. No I don't agree with everything my pastor says, but I would know it if he was a racist and I had listened to his crap for 20 years.
3. Killing babies is wrong. You are a pathetic excuse for a human being if you don't know that. Nothing else needs to be said about that.
4, 5, and 6 - It's all out there. I've seen the videos of him talking about his reasons for not saluting the flag and the anthem and I have seen six photographs of his plane. On CNN the other night it showed footage of him with his plane in the background - the flag's been removed - it was identical to the pictures on the internet. He is ashamed of our anthem and flag. I wouldn't vote for Obama or dog catcher. In my world he would be bagging my groceries not running for President.

MY POINT: Talking to some people will not help. If you believe in killing babies you're lost. I don't expect you to change or to agree with anything I'm saying. Hopefully someone else who sees this will know it's all true and listen.

Good luck. I'm signing off now and will not revisit this post. It's senseless and I have real campaigning to do and checks to write for a few good republicans that I am supporting.

[Ditch Mitch]

hmmm wrote:

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How's this: Obama had only served 143 actual days in the Senate before he decided to run. His pastor is a racist. His church's website (www.tucc.org ) clearly states that they honor their "mother country Africa" instead of their own country, Obama believes in abortion (i.e. killing babies), he will not salute the flag, he recently had the American flag removed from his plane because he said "it was a sign of oppression" .... need more you fool????

I can't believe that America still has people that actually listen and believe RIGHT WING REPUBLICAN talking points. Haven't they done enough? What has the Republicans done against abortion--has there been a constitutional amendment---NO. The other talking points are guilt by association. Haven't you been around someone that you shouldn't have. Of course you have, and so has every one else including OBAMA.
We need change especially with lobbyist, and we need economic fairness.

DITCH MITCH MCCONNELL---Mitch and the Republicans are the problem and not the solution.

VOTE D in 08!

[Ditch Mitch]

Vote against Mitch Mcconnell

[HulaHoop]

I can see why you wouldn't want to revisit this topic. There's much more important stuff to discuss (and campaigning to do) in "Who's the Richest Person in Corbin" section. Arguably the more important topic to some. Best of luck to you and yours. Nice debating the 'issues' with you.

[Indi]

hmmmm wrote:

Good luck. I'm signing off now and will not revisit this post.

That wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that you don't have references for your claims and basically got owned by the opposing debater, would it?

[Madame OReilly]

The long Point 1, Point 2 posts look like the copy and paste work of the Junior Senior spin.

[hkl]

HulaHoop wrote:

I can see why you wouldn't want to revisit this topic. There's much more important stuff to discuss (and campaigning to do) in "Who's the Richest Person in Corbin" section. Arguably the more important topic to some. Best of luck to you and yours. Nice debating the 'issues' with you.

You just showed your ignorance

[ummm up]

Indi wrote:

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That wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that you don't have references for your claims and basically got owned by the opposing debater, would it?

You own a computer - look it up yourself. You were give the church's website. Look at it. Unless you're a blind fool you will know he is a black racist. Vote for McCain

[omg]

You know, this just goes to show you how closed minded Republicans are. Can you not see that our country is in a far worse place since good old Bush has been in office? I mean, if you can't see that you are really blind. Look at the national deficit...look at the war that we are in...look at gas prices...LOOK. And if your come back is that this is not his fault don't waste your time and post. He is the commander and chief...this is his job. But really, how can you expect someone that was an alcoholic for years and an idiot to do any better. In my personal opinion, he is not worth the gum on the bottom of my shoe. And unless you are a woman that has been molested, raped or some other unimaginable horrible thing has happened to, don't you DARE talk about abortion. You have no right. If you go to church and believe in God, go read your bible...I am pretty sure that there is something in there about you NOT being the judge. This is America and as such women have a right to make the choice. I have never, thank God, had to do so myself…but there is no one that is going to take that right from me. And I cannot believe that it ever would be…that simply would not be right. As far as Obama, I will probably vote for him because I would never vote for McCain…but I am a Clinton supporter all the way. And don’t equate Obama-Biden to Osama bin Laden that is just stupid. Grow up.

[Al Sharpton]

This name stuff is about as relevant as a poor 17 year old girl whose pregnancy is now national news. Whoever started this is a moron and shouldn't be allowed to vote.

[Ross]

Al Sharpton wrote:

Whoever started this is a moron and shouldn't be allowed to vote.

We could pretend it isn't so.