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Twinkie

Winchester, KY

#45 Nov 22, 2012
union member wrote:
I can't understand for the life of me how any hard working person can blame a union for closing of factories.
Google "hostess going out of business". Maybe when you read the article hopefully something in your head will go Ding Dong becuase there is no more Ding Dong at Hostess. Or Twinkies either for that matter. Yep, believe if you will that union at Hostess isn't to blame for putting them out of business, NOT!
remember

Middlesboro, KY

#46 Nov 22, 2012
Just work
Try again

Barbourville, KY

#47 Nov 22, 2012
Yes sir, just left Walmart. Strikers everywhere! Lol....It was PACKED!!!! not one person picketing anywhere at Corbin or Barbourville. Walmart has over 1 million employees and even they said that they expect less than 1000 will protest. I hope each and every one of those gets fired on the spot.
Do your homework

Middlesboro, KY

#50 Nov 23, 2012
Twinkie wrote:
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Google "hostess going out of business". Maybe when you read the article hopefully something in your head will go Ding Dong becuase there is no more Ding Dong at Hostess. Or Twinkies either for that matter. Yep, believe if you will that union at Hostess isn't to blame for putting them out of business, NOT!
Unions are a great thing. It is because of unions that we have minimum wage laws, benefits, etc. Read your history!

Hostess didn't go out of business because of the union. They went out of business because of bad management. They were flooded with debt. They would have ended up closes their doors not matter what.

As for Wal-Mart, the union that tried to strike doesn't even have anything to do with Wal-Mart. That's the funny part. No wonder it failed. But don't let that make all unions seem bad.
Dan

Windsor, WI

#51 Nov 23, 2012
Do your homework wrote:
<quoted text>Unions are a great thing. It is because of unions that we have minimum wage laws, benefits, etc. Read your history!
Hostess didn't go out of business because of the union. They went out of business because of bad management. They were flooded with debt. They would have ended up closes their doors not matter what.
As for Wal-Mart, the union that tried to strike doesn't even have anything to do with Wal-Mart. That's the funny part. No wonder it failed. But don't let that make all unions seem bad.
They closed their doors because of Nobama care. This new health care will cost 5000 per employee. Do the math. This will kill the business. And the Union is costing this business millions. Wait and see who goes next. Thank this new world order government for the down fall of America.
Do your homework

Middlesboro, KY

#52 Nov 23, 2012
Dan wrote:
<quoted text> They closed their doors because of Nobama care. This new health care will cost 5000 per employee. Do the math. This will kill the business. And the Union is costing this business millions. Wait and see who goes next. Thank this new world order government for the down fall of America.
You're f'ing crazy. Obama Care didn't have anything to do with it. How could it when Obama care isn't even in effect for business yet? So Hostess closed their doors now for something that won't even affect them for another two years. YEA RIGHT.
Twinkie

Duluth, GA

#53 Nov 23, 2012
Do your homework wrote:
<quoted text>Unions are a great thing. It is because of unions that we have minimum wage laws, benefits, etc. Read your history!
Hostess didn't go out of business because of the union. They went out of business because of bad management. They were flooded with debt. They would have ended up closes their doors not matter what.
#1 Perhaps in the early history of the industrialization of America unions did indeed serve a purpose. As for now unions are outdated and no longer of any great benefit to the working men and women of America. It is partly "because of unions" that millions of US manufacturing jobs have moved off shore and have been forever lost to a more competitive global work place.

#2 Hostess did go out of business because the union would not make concessions which would allow the company to remain viable and survive. 18,000 jobs are gone and 33 plants are shut down because the union would not budge. Why should a public or privately owned company have to kiss the unions ass anyway? Seems to me if you own the company you should be able to operate it without union interference anyway. There are enough federal and state laws to protect the workers and dictate a safe working environment. The union is outdated and no longer relevant this day and time anyway.
joe

Whitley City, KY

#54 Nov 24, 2012
if i worked in a factory the first thing i would do is join the union. Franklin D Roosevelt
Do your homework

Middlesboro, KY

#55 Nov 24, 2012
Twinkie wrote:
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#1 Perhaps in the early history of the industrialization of America unions did indeed serve a purpose. As for now unions are outdated and no longer of any great benefit to the working men and women of America. It is partly "because of unions" that millions of US manufacturing jobs have moved off shore and have been forever lost to a more competitive global work place.
#2 Hostess did go out of business because the union would not make concessions which would allow the company to remain viable and survive. 18,000 jobs are gone and 33 plants are shut down because the union would not budge. Why should a public or privately owned company have to kiss the unions ass anyway? Seems to me if you own the company you should be able to operate it without union interference anyway. There are enough federal and state laws to protect the workers and dictate a safe working environment. The union is outdated and no longer relevant this day and time anyway.
I disagree with nearly everything you state. My father works at a factory that cut everyone's pensions and began laying people off a year ago. Had it not been for the union, the factory would have completely closed and relocated overseas. My father was able to keep his job because of seniority because of the union.

As far as Hostess, you're completely wrong. For example, the Teamsters were one of the two unions representing Hostess employees, and they DID in fact "budge" and agree to lower terms. When Hostess told them they couldn't meet their demands, the Teamsters accepted a new agreement. So do you homework people. Hostess closed because of debt and mismanagement. If they were a strong company, they would have easily been able to meet the union's demands! They couldn't even stay open though with the union willing to negotiate.
pro union

Pineville, KY

#56 Nov 24, 2012
Now wrote:
Unions are horrible. Just look at what the unions did to Hostess. Those employees had great pay and benefits but got greedy and went on strike causing the business to go under. They were told if they did not return to work they would close yet the union still refused. Screw unions, they do more harm than good.
i worked for a union in a northern state and 12 years ago i was making twice the wage i am making now and i had sick days and paid vacation and lets say it the union doesnot make money if the business doesnt make money so the union did not put hostess out of business hostess but hostess out of business the union is for the working man UNION ARE GOOD idiot
Realworld

Whitley City, KY

#57 Nov 24, 2012
pro union wrote:
<quoted text>i worked for a union in a northern state and 12 years ago i was making twice the wage i am making now and i had sick days and paid vacation and lets say it the union doesnot make money if the business doesnt make money so the union did not put hostess out of business hostess but hostess out of business the union is for the working man UNION ARE GOOD idiot
Unions, at one time long ago, was the catalist for change in labor laws, great. Today it is like the wagon wheel, it's day is gone. Today, unions only serve a small few to get unrealistic wages for the work they do. How many new business has a union, most will fire you for the word union and rightfully so as the only thing they do now is raise prices for everyone. Your lovely unions have put the cost of automobiles and most every thing out of reach for the average working man. Unions must die.
agree

Rawson, OH

#58 Nov 24, 2012
Do your homework wrote:
<quoted text>I disagree with nearly everything you state. My father works at a factory that cut everyone's pensions and began laying people off a year ago. Had it not been for the union, the factory would have completely closed and relocated overseas. My father was able to keep his job because of seniority because of the union.
As far as Hostess, you're completely wrong. For example, the Teamsters were one of the two unions representing Hostess employees, and they DID in fact "budge" and agree to lower terms. When Hostess told them they couldn't meet their demands, the Teamsters accepted a new agreement. So do you homework people. Hostess closed because of debt and mismanagement. If they were a strong company, they would have easily been able to meet the union's demands! They couldn't even stay open though with the union willing to negotiate.
You are absolutely correct. Iue local 777 saved the Chrysler plant in 93 by agreeing to lower wages in order for the plant to stay open. Many retirees were going out at that time, so the new-hires were coming in. The company did not want to remain in America if the new hire-es were going to make 18.00 an hour like those retiring, so to keep the plant there, and the retirement packages in place, the new hrees at that time were hired in at 6.00 an hour. I know, I worked on the line making that, next to others doing the same job making 18.00 per hour, but it was worth it, benefits and job security. The union at that time did save the plant, and the workers are very lucky for that. Unions do save job, and make sure workers are treated fairly, going by seniority, etc.. there is more to unions than what most know.

Since: Jan 12

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#59 Nov 25, 2012
Like everything else in this world there are good points about unions and also bad points. I know this because I was a union steward for over 20 years.
Read

Brownsville, TN

#61 Nov 25, 2012
International Brotherhood
of the Electrical Workers



Our cause is the cause of human justice, human rights, human security.



We refuse, and will always refuse, to condone or tolerate dictatorship or oppression of any kind.



We will find and expel from our midst any who might attempt to destroy, by subversion, all that we stand for.



This Brotherhood will continue to oppose Communism, Nazism or any other subversive “ism”. We will support our God, our Nations, our Union.

http://www.ibew351.org/
HAHA

Middlesboro, KY

#62 Nov 25, 2012
Read wrote:
International Brotherhood
of the Electrical Workers
Our cause is the cause of human justice, human rights, human security.
We refuse, and will always refuse, to condone or tolerate dictatorship or oppression of any kind.
We will find and expel from our midst any who might attempt to destroy, by subversion, all that we stand for.
This Brotherhood will continue to oppose Communism, Nazism or any other subversive “ism”. We will support our God, our Nations, our Union.
http://www.ibew351.org/
Why would anyone "judge" this as funny or nuts? Who is the idiot that would rather live in opression?

My grandfather was an IBEW member. Anyone that has a problem with what this guy posted should get their ass kicked for being a waste of air. You either stand for something in this life or you stand for nothing. Stop being sheep and have a dream for once in your life.
thunderbuddy

United States

#63 Nov 26, 2012
unions just protect the lazy people now adays

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