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Dont let the city bet your life with outsourcing EMS

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Melissa A

Killeen, TX

#1 Oct 25, 2011
Dont let the city bet your life with outsourcing EMS because you Voted YES for Civil Service and fairness for our firefighters

The city manager and council have stated that this could happen if Civil Service passes. For those of you that donít know Private EMS Companies do not care about 911 emergencies all they care about is doing Insurance and Medicare billable transfers from hospital to hospital. Some transfers taking as long as 14 hours to complete.
Why do you think our Copperas Cove Fire Dept Ambulances go to Lampasas County and to Kempner on a regular basis. Because the Private EMS Company that has that contract sends all their ambulances on Patient Transfers.

Do not let this happen to Copperas Cove.

This means you have to wait on an ambulance to arrive that much longer and WHEN SECONDS COUNT when someone in your family is having a heart attack, do you want your firefighters to be there within seconds or do want to wait on a Private EMS Company to call another company or another city to come to your house because they sent all the ambulances they were supposed to keep in the city down to Austin or San Antonio on transfers.

DO NOT LET THE CITY THREATEN YOU WITH SUB-PAR EMS SERVICE BECUASE YOU WISH VOTE YES FOR FAIRNESS TO SUPPORT YOUR FIRFIGHTERS
Sawzaw

Belton, TX

#2 Oct 25, 2011
I agree! I think its an empty threat anyways! Thats what really pushed me to vote yes. I thought after that, these fine men and women really do need protection!
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#3 Oct 25, 2011
This is another Union scare tactic.

Save our city. Vote against Civil Service
sawzaw

Belton, TX

#4 Oct 25, 2011
Vote against it wrote:
This is another Union scare tactic.

Save our city. Vote against Civil Service
The union didn't put out the threat silly!!!
LAVA FF

Killeen, TX

#5 Oct 25, 2011
Vote against it wrote:
This is another Union scare tactic.
Save our city. Vote against Civil Service
How is this a union scare tactic when the City Manager and the Council are the ones that said it?

The City Manager and the Council must all be in a union then.
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#6 Oct 25, 2011
Save the EMS

I am afraid that if we go Civil Service it will be outsourced to pay for Civil Service.
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#7 Oct 25, 2011
They were researching ways to pay for it.
sawzaw

Belton, TX

#8 Oct 25, 2011
Vote against it wrote:
Save the EMS

I am afraid that if we go Civil Service it will be outsourced to pay for Civil Service.
I would like to see the city try that! You think we have a problem now.... Watch what happens if they retaliate for a lawful election decided by the voters! God I love being an AMERICAN!
Cotton Hole

Killeen, TX

#9 Oct 25, 2011
Vote against it wrote:
Save the EMS
I am afraid that if we go Civil Service it will be outsourced to pay for Civil Service.
Hey you keep going with that statement that threatens voters. You and the Chamber of Commerce will be the reasons people vote YES for it.
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#10 Oct 25, 2011
Copperas Cove can not afford Civil Service.

It will cost $500,000 the first year with cost going up every year after.

And now they have their first lawsuit threatened by the Union because of fiscal responsibility to the Citizens.
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#11 Oct 25, 2011
sawzaw wrote:
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I would like to see the city try that! You think we have a problem now.... Watch what happens if they retaliate for a lawful election decided by the voters! God I love being an AMERICAN!
We haven't even voted to let them have control yet. And we already have our first lawsuit.

Just wait till it passes at least!
sawzaw

Belton, TX

#12 Oct 25, 2011
Vote against it wrote:
<quoted text>We haven't even voted to let them have control yet. And we already have our first lawsuit.

Just wait till it passes at least!
I am not part of ANY union silly! JUST A TAX PAYING CITIZEN. I am talking about the sub par EMS care they are threatening with. Just watch the citizens come down on city management when this happens!
Wheres the Video

Killeen, TX

#13 Oct 26, 2011
We will never see the video, bet your life on it

“braden @ bradenframe.com”

Since: Aug 11

Copperas Cove, TX

#14 Oct 26, 2011
Wheres the Video wrote:
We will never see the video, bet your life on it
I'll have it posted tomorrow. Been a busy week. Just haven't had a chance to meet up with the guy who has it. My apologies.

“braden @ bradenframe.com”

Since: Aug 11

Copperas Cove, TX

#16 Oct 28, 2011
Wheres the Video wrote:
We will never see the video, bet your life on it
http://youtu.be/zio-zpxOnz4

Posted last night.

I ended up having to go to work before I could get it listed on here...one of our other members put it up for me...but they didn't get it in every thread.

But the video is up.
Grim R

Belton, TX

#17 Oct 28, 2011
Wheres the Video wrote:
We will never see the video, bet your life on it
Now what's your name and where are you, I'de like to come collect on your bet!
Truth Seeker2

Waco, TX

#18 Oct 28, 2011
Even with Civil Service the city can still outsource EMS. Civil Service can not stop that if the city does that. So whoever is telling you the lies that civil service will stop EMS outsourcing is belittling you and playing on your fears. Yes I too am not for EMS outsourcing but civil service will not stop that. In fact if the city has to come up with more money to cover civil service that may be what drives them to outsource.
voter

United States

#19 Nov 22, 2011
sawzaw wrote:
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I am not part of ANY union silly! JUST A TAX PAYING CITIZEN. I am talking about the sub par EMS care they are threatening with. Just watch the citizens come down on city management when this happens!
Im not real sure what sub par ems care you are going by but there is many places that have private ems services doing their 911 calls.
voter

United States

#20 Nov 22, 2011
Melissa A wrote:
Dont let the city bet your life with outsourcing EMS because you Voted YES for Civil Service and fairness for our firefighters
The city manager and council have stated that this could happen if Civil Service passes. For those of you that donít know Private EMS Companies do not care about 911 emergencies all they care about is doing Insurance and Medicare billable transfers from hospital to hospital. Some transfers taking as long as 14 hours to complete.
Why do you think our Copperas Cove Fire Dept Ambulances go to Lampasas County and to Kempner on a regular basis. Because the Private EMS Company that has that contract sends all their ambulances on Patient Transfers.
Do not let this happen to Copperas Cove.
This means you have to wait on an ambulance to arrive that much longer and WHEN SECONDS COUNT when someone in your family is having a heart attack, do you want your firefighters to be there within seconds or do want to wait on a Private EMS Company to call another company or another city to come to your house because they sent all the ambulances they were supposed to keep in the city down to Austin or San Antonio on transfers.
DO NOT LET THE CITY THREATEN YOU WITH SUB-PAR EMS SERVICE BECUASE YOU WISH VOTE YES FOR FAIRNESS TO SUPPORT YOUR FIRFIGHTERS
You obviously have no idea what private service 911 contracts are all about or how they work!
What

Killeen, TX

#21 Nov 23, 2011
Well now you see it happening.
sawzaw wrote:
<quoted text>
I would like to see the city try that! You think we have a problem now.... Watch what happens if they retaliate for a lawful election decided by the voters! God I love being an AMERICAN!

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