Flower Mound approves smoking ban

Douglas Dunsavage, Public Advocacy Director of the American Heart Association, commended the Flower Mound Town Council Monday on their new ordinance which bans smoking in public.

[txbrokerman]

Once again a right to liberty has been taken away. A smoking ban for the good of the people and a ban without a vote from the people. Another socialist view and a change without a vote. Flower Mound you disappoint me and many others who find this another railroaded ban with out discussion or proper vote.

[just candid]

I like the fact they will have a $500 fine for fools who smoke where it's restricted.

[Cincy Steve]

just candid wrote:

I like the fact they will have a $500 fine for fools who smoke where it's restricted.

So what...

Ohio's ban is two years old and to date no individual has been fined for smoking in a prohibited area...

[Les Claypool]

The fun police are at it again. After this was passed in Southlake the bars and pubs slowly shut down. Hopefully Little Pete's will survive.

[stonewall]

If I spend a million dollars on a peice of land and then another million for the building, plus hire all of the people, trainig, recipes etc...I should be able to decide whether or not I want smoking in my restaurant. I am personally not a smoker, however I am repulsed by fat people. If you are a fat person the last place you need to be is a restaurant. I think we should pass legislation that would govern fat people. They are a real drain on our society and it costs millions each year to deal with fat relted illness.

[just candid]

Cincy Steve wrote:

<quoted text>
So what...
Ohio's ban is two years old and to date no individual has been fined for smoking in a prohibited area...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Flower Mound is I believe in Texas, not Ohio. I believe the good people living in Texas are not as backward as some people living in Ohio

[pragmatist]

I am an ex-smoker and do not like the smell of cigarette smoke. HOWEVER, if I don't want to smell smoke, I don't go to those restuarants that permit smoking. I am, after all, an adult with a fully functioning brain.

I hope these more-government-for-the-good-o f-the-stupid-people will back off this anti-smoking BS now that we have a President who smokes.

I am allergic to most perfumes, colognes, and aftershave lotions. They give me horrible migraine headaches with little or no warning.

Why aren't we banning those?

[just candid]

pragmatist wrote:

I am an ex-smoker and do not like the smell of cigarette smoke. HOWEVER, if I don't want to smell smoke, I don't go to those restuarants that permit smoking. I am, after all, an adult with a fully functioning brain.
I hope these more-government-for-the-good-o f-the-stupid-people will back off this anti-smoking BS now that we have a President who smokes.
I am allergic to most perfumes, colognes, and aftershave lotions. They give me horrible migraine headaches with little or no warning.
Why aren't we banning those?

The new President said he is quitting, "dosen't want his daughters to be exposed to the smoke."

[bdjunker]

just candid wrote:

<quoted text> The new President said he is quitting, "dosen't want his daughters to be exposed to the smoke."

ROFLMAO

He's been saying that for the last 2 years, and he's still smoking. He just does it on the sly now. He can't afford to have the First B!tch Elect find out he's still puffing away.

Most people feel that he should just keep smoking. They don't want him anymore mentally incapacitated than he already is.

[just candid]

bdjunker wrote:

<quoted text>
ROFLMAO
He's been saying that for the last 2 years, and he's still smoking. He just does it on the sly now. He can't afford to have the First B!tch Elect find out he's still puffing away.
Most people feel that he should just keep smoking. They don't want him anymore mentally incapacitated than he already is.

His wife will soon be the Nations First Lady, you and your ilk would do well to respect his office and his wife.

[bdjunker]

just candid wrote:

<quoted text> His wife will soon be the Nations First Lady, you and your ilk would do well to respect his office and his wife.

Or what? You will have the Gestapo knocking at my door? Go For It!!!

I will have same respect for BO's office and wife, as the libtards had for the Bush Office and wife.

"Well, there’s a plan to make us all the same,

Same food , same size, I just feel distain,

Have a drink, but have a smoke out in the rain, out in the cold,

Where are the bold, that fought the jackboot.

I wanna be there on the day you fall,

I wanna see your face when you lose the ball,

A law-abiding man will find it hard just doing what he can,

Without breaking the law, against this jackboot,

I don’t want to see no more of your jackboot."

Eamonn Mallon

[just candid]

bdjunker wrote:

<quoted text>
Or what? You will have the Gestapo knocking at my door? Go For It!!!
I will have same respect for BO's office and wife, as the libtards had for the Bush Office and wife.
"Well, there’s a plan to make us all the same,
Same food , same size, I just feel distain,
Have a drink, but have a smoke out in the rain, out in the cold,
Where are the bold, that fought the jackboot.
I wanna be there on the day you fall,
I wanna see your face when you lose the ball,
A law-abiding man will find it hard just doing what he can,
Without breaking the law, against this jackboot,
I don’t want to see no more of your jackboot."
Eamonn Mallon

It's a know fact that over a third of smokers have mental problems so we understand why Junkers goes on her asinine rants.

[Get it]

txbrokerman wrote:

Once again a right to liberty has been taken away. A smoking ban for the good of the people and a ban without a vote from the people. Another socialist view and a change without a vote. Flower Mound you disappoint me and many others who find this another railroaded ban with out discussion or proper vote.

Flower Mound has mide quite a few people happy with the ban.

I guess the pro smoking, nutjob, nicotine addicts are not happy, though. Oh, well, no one cares about that kind of trash. That is why we keep raising the taxes on them and their ilk.

[Get it]

mide=made

[Mr Right]

The people of Flower Mound also need to know that the Stryker Corporation is a big supporter of gay rights.

[pragmatist]

Mr Right wrote:

The people of Flower Mound also need to know that the Stryker Corporation is a big supporter of gay rights.

I'm sorry. I must have slept thru an episode...

What is the Stryker Corp and what has that got to do with this story?

[Les Claypool]

This is how the mayor of Flower Mound operates.

http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2008/nov/19/f...

A little over two weeks ago the Flower Mound Town Council passed a ban on smoking in public places. The council voted three to one in favor of this legislation effective January 2009. In summary, this ordinance prohibits smoking in public places and within 25 feet of an entranceway to a public place.

Personally, I do not have an objection to this "ban on smoking" had the public at large been properly notified and given a chance to voice their opinion, pro or con, through a vote on this very important matter. I have stated time and again, if the residents of Flower Mound at large do not want smoking in public places I would favor such legislation, however, true public opinion was never heard.

In general, the public was notified of the meeting and proposed legislation via an article in local papers and through the Town of Flower Mound's website.....less than three days before the vote. To the best of my knowledge, I am not aware of any other communication on this matter to the general public.

Many residents were not aware that the Flower Mound Town Council was considering such an important matter, let alone voting on it.

I attended this meeting and had an opportunity to see a Powerpoint presentation of the proposed ordinance for the very first time. Speaking for myself, I barely had time to digest the presentation let alone time to develop an articulate counterproposal. I asked the Flower Mound Town Council to consider alternatives that would strike a compromise from the stringent proposal that was set forth to no avail.

As an owner of two successful restaurants in Flower Mound, I expressed concern over the current economic climate and the financial impact on owners and staff throughout Flower Mound. Further, I expressed my opinion that designated smoking areas be permitted under controlled environments through the use of doors to keep smoke out of specified areas and using filtration systems to avoid the co-mingling of air.

Needless to say my voice was not enough to change the minds of Flower Mound's Town Council. Nor were the voices from the few that gathered to express their concerns.

Since that meeting I have tried to contact Ms. Jody Smith, Mayor of Flower Mound on seven occasions and have yet to receive a courtesy call back. Putting the vote aside, I think it is tragic that an elected official cannot take time out of her day to return a telephone call from a member of the public. This is particularly disturbing because at that meeting Mayor Smith firmly stated that she needed to get back to me on one of the questions I raised.

I remain committed to my cause and will continue to contact "Our Mayor" until... well, I can only hope that I will receive a return call.

I hope that the Flower Mound Town Council re-addresses this important issue and involves the community they were elected to represent.

[Happy Contented Soul]

Les Claypool wrote:

This is how the mayor of Flower Mound operates.
http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2008/nov/19/f...
A little over two weeks ago the Flower Mound Town Council passed a ban on smoking in public places. The council voted three to one in favor of this legislation effective January 2009. In summary, this ordinance prohibits smoking in public places and within 25 feet of an entranceway to a public place.
Personally, I do not have an objection to this "ban on smoking" had the public at large been properly notified and given a chance to voice their opinion, pro or con, through a vote on this very important matter. I have stated time and again, if the residents of Flower Mound at large do not want smoking in public places I would favor such legislation, however, true public opinion was never heard.
In general, the public was notified of the meeting and proposed legislation via an article in local papers and through the Town of Flower Mound's website.....less than three days before the vote. To the best of my knowledge, I am not aware of any other communication on this matter to the general public.
Many residents were not aware that the Flower Mound Town Council was considering such an important matter, let alone voting on it.
I attended this meeting and had an opportunity to see a Powerpoint presentation of the proposed ordinance for the very first time. Speaking for myself, I barely had time to digest the presentation let alone time to develop an articulate counterproposal. I asked the Flower Mound Town Council to consider alternatives that would strike a compromise from the stringent proposal that was set forth to no avail.
As an owner of two successful restaurants in Flower Mound, I expressed concern over the current economic climate and the financial impact on owners and staff throughout Flower Mound. Further, I expressed my opinion that designated smoking areas be permitted under controlled environments through the use of doors to keep smoke out of specified areas and using filtration systems to avoid the co-mingling of air.
Needless to say my voice was not enough to change the minds of Flower Mound's Town Council. Nor were the voices from the few that gathered to express their concerns.
Since that meeting I have tried to contact Ms. Jody Smith, Mayor of Flower Mound on seven occasions and have yet to receive a courtesy call back. Putting the vote aside, I think it is tragic that an elected official cannot take time out of her day to return a telephone call from a member of the public. This is particularly disturbing because at that meeting Mayor Smith firmly stated that she needed to get back to me on one of the questions I raised.
I remain committed to my cause and will continue to contact "Our Mayor" until... well, I can only hope that I will receive a return call.
I hope that the Flower Mound Town Council re-addresses this important issue and involves the community they were elected to represent.

How's your tar and feather supply?

[tired of the law]

the law, doesn't seem to understand . or do they care ? a lot of times when you prohibit anything you make it worse ,you plant seeds of rebellion within people .......

[azmac]

just candid wrote:

<quoted text> His wife will soon be the Nations First Lady, you and your ilk would do well to respect his office and his wife.

Respect is earned.They have done nothing to earn my respect. Same with Bush he also has done nothing to earn my respect.