City's Proposed Gun Ban Could be Illegal

Apr 2, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: NBC Philadelphia

But as the city moves closer to making that a reality, other Pennsylvania municipalities are repealing similar bans over their legality.

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samcro

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This is a joke. Do you think banning guns in parks is going to stop a criminal from not carrying a gun in a park. Don't think criminals or insane people care about laws to begin with. So lets stop law abiding citizens from carrying a gun to protect themselves. Then when a criminal comes into a park with an illegally purchased or stolen gun and starts shooting the law abiding person you was follows the laws can't defend themselves and others around them.

When are people going to realize you can put all the laws in place you want but criminals will always have access to guns. Kind of similar to all the war on drugs. It is a losing battle.
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Adam Lanza was a "law-abiding citizen" before he killed 20 people. It's easy for a "law-abiding citizen" to become a "criminal" in just seconds. People don't walk around with signs announcing they're a "criminal" or "law-abiding citizen."
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Joe wrote:
Adam Lanza was a "law-abiding citizen" before he killed 20 people. It's easy for a "law-abiding citizen" to become a "criminal" in just seconds. People don't walk around with signs announcing they're a "criminal" or "law-abiding citizen."
So my right to arm and defend myself wherever I am against violent criminals should be taken away. Under a violent assault I should cower and frantically dial 911 and wait for the police to respond? LOL
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Joe wrote:
Adam Lanza was a "law-abiding citizen" before he killed 20 people. It's easy for a "law-abiding citizen" to become a "criminal" in just seconds. People don't walk around with signs announcing they're a "criminal" or "law-abiding citizen."
Really he had a mental illness and his mom bought him guns.
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So my right to arm and defend myself wherever I am against violent criminals should be taken away. Under a violent assault I should cower and frantically dial 911 and wait for the police to respond? LOL
How do we know you're not a violent thug. We have to assume the worst in people. Hence the need for strict gun laws.

If you're afraid to walk the streets, start working out at the gym. You don't need to carry a gun.
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Really he had a mental illness and his mom bought him guns.
Adam Lanza actually broke into his Mother's gun safe and stole the weapons he used during his rampage.
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How do we know you're not a violent thug. We have to assume the worst in people. Hence the need for strict gun laws.
If you're afraid to walk the streets, start working out at the gym. You don't need to carry a gun.
So guilty until proven innocent? I do assume the worst in people and why I chose to acquire my CCW and carry a firearm daily.

Using your logic, why does law enforcement bother to carry a weapon. If they simply spent more time in the gym they'd be more able to defend themselves.
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How do we know you're not a violent thug. We have to assume the worst in people. Hence the need for strict gun laws.
If you're afraid to walk the streets, start working out at the gym. You don't need to carry a gun.
What do you feed your Unicorn and does it crap rainbow colored skittles?
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So guilty until proven innocent? I do assume the worst in people and why I chose to acquire my CCW and carry a firearm daily.
Using your logic, why does law enforcement bother to carry a weapon. If they simply spent more time in the gym they'd be more able to defend themselves.
So at what point would you shoot someone? If someone flips you the bird? What you consider "aggressive" is subjective. Carrying a gun is only asking for trouble.
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What do you feed your Unicorn and does it crap rainbow colored skittles?
I don't follow your thought pattern. But I will say, the more guns off the streets the better.
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<quoted text>How do we know you're not a violent thug. We have to assume the worst in people. Hence the need for strict gun laws.

If you're afraid to walk the streets, start working out at the gym. You don't need to carry a gun.
We have strict guns laws already. It is a felony to have a gun if you have been convicted of one already. That does not stop felons from getting guns.

Going to the gym. Does not help when a person breaks in your house with a gun.
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So, Joe is a resident now...

(Joe from the smartphone, and resident from the home computer)

Yeah, you go ahead and workout at the gym and how will your bulging biceps help you if some guy pulls a gun? He'll blow your liberal head off.
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We have strict guns laws already. It is a felony to have a gun if you have been convicted of one already. That does not stop felons from getting guns.
Going to the gym. Does not help when a person breaks in your house with a gun.
We have strict gun laws? And yet we have a mass shooting every 2-3 months. Our cities experience gun violence on a daily basis.

I don't care if the NRA's feeling are hurt or some nut yells about violating the Second Amendment. Of course we need universial background checks, but we also need to ban high ammo clips and most assault weapons. Connecticut took a step in the right direction and hopefully more states will follow if we can't pass tougher federal regulations.
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We have strict gun laws? And yet we have a mass shooting every 2-3 months. Our cities experience gun violence on a daily basis.
I don't care if the NRA's feeling are hurt or some nut yells about violating the Second Amendment. Of course we need universial background checks, but we also need to ban high ammo clips and most assault weapons. Connecticut took a step in the right direction and hopefully more states will follow if we can't pass tougher federal regulations.
"Our cities experience gun violence on a daily basis."

Do you really think gun laws, no matter how draconian, will solve this problem? The problem with gun violence in the inner cities is that the majority of these guns are illegally owned, so no matter what law there may be, it won't have any affect on this situation. The majority of gun violence in this country is from inner city crime, not mass shootings by mental cases.
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We have strict gun laws? And yet we have a mass shooting every 2-3 months. Our cities experience gun violence on a daily basis.
How about that, you almost recognized the real problem - gun free zones...
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How about that, you almost recognized the real problem - gun free zones...
Oh, back to the stupid NRA argument about guns in schools. Sorry, I don't trust the local "volunteer" -- or for that matter -- any person strolling through the supermarket packing heat.
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Reality Check wrote:
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"Our cities experience gun violence on a daily basis."
Do you really think gun laws, no matter how draconian, will solve this problem? The problem with gun violence in the inner cities is that the majority of these guns are illegally owned, so no matter what law there may be, it won't have any affect on this situation. The majority of gun violence in this country is from inner city crime, not mass shootings by mental cases.
We have problems with straw purchases that need to be eliminated, whether it's the inner city or rural areas where guns are exchanged among relatives.
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Oh, back to the stupid NRA argument about guns in schools. Sorry, I don't trust the local "volunteer" -- or for that matter -- any person strolling through the supermarket packing heat.
You must have a reading comprehension problem. Too bad for you.
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You must have a reading comprehension problem. Too bad for you.
We have to crack down on gun violence everywhere and it starts with vigorous background checks, a national gun owner database, banning high capacity ammo clips and renewing the assault weapons ban. It won't all happen in one piece of legislation but we'll get there.
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We have to crack down on gun violence everywhere and it starts with vigorous background checks, a national gun owner database, banning high capacity ammo clips and renewing the assault weapons ban. It won't all happen in one piece of legislation but we'll get there.
How do you plan to enforce those restrictions? Please be specific.

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