Route 309 construction puts crunch on Coopersburg area

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Southbound traffic is funneled into a single lane in the Route 209 construction zone north of Coopersburg on Wednesday.

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Apr 2, 2009
 
The U.S. Women's Open, expected to draw 25,000 spectators per day to the nearby Saucon Valley Country Club from July 6-12, could be affected. But tournament officials plan to steer ticket-holders around the work.

''The 309 project is obviously a wrinkle in the plan,'' said Mimi Griffin, the tournament's executive director.''But there are alternatives.''

Mimi,
What? Helicopter.
Maverick

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Apr 2, 2009
 
Why does construction work need to be done during peak hours. Everywhere else in the country work on main roads are only done during the night. But No not here. All this for adding a couple of turning lanes !!! wow !!! The only people going to suffer are businesses like the coopersburg diner and the gas stations along that way. I am already taking an alternate route.
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Apr 2, 2009
 
I also wondered why weren't working at night. They stated that they are too close to people's homes (think about the stretch between BK and Giant) and they want them to be able to sleep at night (noise).
Maverick wrote:
Why does construction work need to be done during peak hours. Everywhere else in the country work on main roads are only done during the night. But No not here. All this for adding a couple of turning lanes !!! wow !!! The only people going to suffer are businesses like the coopersburg diner and the gas stations along that way. I am already taking an alternate route.
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Apr 2, 2009
 
Once again the morning call never seases to amaze me with there wonderful editing. I love how there is a giant "309" sign in the picture and the header still says funnels to one lane on "209".
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Apr 2, 2009
 
I'd love to know who the idiot from Penn dot is that approved starting another road project in an already limited route around this new mess.. They need to STOP this project until the Main st bridge is completed...

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Apr 2, 2009
 
I understand why they're not working at night because not only are there single family homes but many apartment complexes right on that strip.

What I don't understand is why they didn't put ALL Their focus into that Main Street Bridge BEFORE deciding to close off two lanes. 309 was running with just one northbound lane and both southbound for over a week and traffic wasn't bad at all.

It took me ONE HOUR to get from the Promenade to Trumbauersville Tuesday because they decided to make both sides one lane and Main Street was closed. There were dozens of cars trying to take side streets just to get congested on them to turn around and get back in line.

The problem is... as usual in PA they're going to freak out and rush because they're idiots and the road will last about 8 months before cracking and making ENORMOUS POT HOLES that we'll have to swerve around.

Smarten up - do ONE road at a time - and for goodness sake - DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!!!
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Apr 2, 2009
 
Maverick wrote:
Why does construction work need to be done during peak hours. Everywhere else in the country work on main roads are only done during the night. But No not here. All this for adding a couple of turning lanes !!! wow !!! The only people going to suffer are businesses like the coopersburg diner and the gas stations along that way. I am already taking an alternate route.
I drive through that area during peak hours, but I never see any work being done.
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Emmaus, PA

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Apr 2, 2009
 
Very poor planning on the part of PENNDOT!!!

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Apr 2, 2009
 
OH MY wrote:
I'd love to know who the idiot from Penn dot is that approved starting another road project in an already limited route around this new mess.. They need to STOP this project until the Main st bridge is completed...
A young relative worked for Penn DOT for exactly three weeks for a summer job and left to get a real job at a local corporation. He left becuase he feared that the PennDOT job would hurt his resume! From the stories he'd tell of his boss, PennDOT's incompetence does not surprise me in the least. His boss sounded like a real winner.
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Apr 2, 2009
 
OH MY wrote:
I'd love to know who the idiot from Penn dot is that approved starting another road project in an already limited route around this new mess.. They need to STOP this project until the Main st bridge is completed...
Thank you!! I have been saying this since they cut one of the lanes in the beginning of March! And don;t try to take Richlandtown Pike as an alternative to get to the Bethlehem area, the bridge is closed! and thae Main St bridge as was already pointed out. Does no thought AT ALL go into these projects?!?! I am orginally from the Bthelehem area and my only way to get up there anymore is the turnpike.... I HATE PA!!!
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Apr 2, 2009
 
Roadkill wrote:
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I drive through that area during peak hours, but I never see any work being done.
You're right (lol), for every 500 feet of road there's about six feet actually being worked on......we PA Pukes are so used to the stereotypical PENNDOT worker leaning on the shovel as you S-L-O-W-L-Y creep past during our 2 hour "5 minute" commute home that we all mentally just bleep that part out.
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Apr 2, 2009
 
BTW - just wanted to put this out for comment. What would be the problem with Coopersburg banning all points of entry and exit from side streets during the entire length of 309? If you need to access your home or a buisness you need to approach it from an alternate route. This way traffic could be get moving at a reasonable speed....?
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Apr 2, 2009
 
get = kept, brain fart
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Apr 2, 2009
 
what is sad for the coopersburg diner is that this business has continued to support local residents for years and to provide good food at fair prices. owners recently renovated entire facility. now what! a year with traffic chaos outside. how will this harm business? why would penndot and coopersburg not collaborate traffic construction plans to have prevented both major arteries to be under construction at same time speaks volumes and begs the question, where were/are coopersburg officials?
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Apr 2, 2009
 
What a crock! Obviously, the Route 309 work has to be done, but there's no reason why they couldn't have fixed the Main Street bridge before it started, or after it finished. I'm just glad I don't work in Quakertown anymore, so I don't have to go that way at all. Otherwise I know I would be getting road rage on a daily basis.
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Apr 2, 2009
 
Two different projects, put out for bid at two seperate times, with two seperate contractors. The bids clearly indicated that the two jobs would influence each other, and that traffic plans would need to be developed to make the best of the situation.(I would hardly consider Main Street a major artery, though...)

PennDOT also made them do a survey of bog turtles in the area of the Main Street project, which pushed their competion times back. The contractor was also handcuffed by extremely restrictive work schedules to minimize the impact to the wildlife both in and around the stream.

It seems that PennDOT, and all the other surrounding DOT's, are more worried about the environmentalists than the public, even though the whole point of the project is to make travel safer for the public.

Clearly, PennDOT did not intend for the two jobs to cause so much havoc. The contractor on the job is responsible for bidding the work acurately and meeting the schedule. Sometimes there are things that happen that make that impossible.

Now...if Main Street was open, how full would this forum be with complaints about the traffic/dust/noise/inconvenien ce because everyone was using it as an alternate to 309? Once Main is open, i'm sure we'll be rehashing this.
Resident of the coop

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Apr 2, 2009
 
As much as I am seeing everyone complaining about their commutes.. try living in the center of Coopersburg.. you can't even get HOME or go to the grocery store down the street because of the issues.

Although, i do have to say, for those of you who do commute through.. get on Google Maps.. where you can alternate your route there are MANY back roads that can be taken whether you come from the north or the south.
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Apr 2, 2009
 
RT Homeowner wrote:
Two different projects, put out for bid at two seperate times, with two seperate contractors. The bids clearly indicated that the two jobs would influence each other, and that traffic plans would need to be developed to make the best of the situation.(I would hardly consider Main Street a major artery, though...)
PennDOT also made them do a survey of bog turtles in the area of the Main Street project, which pushed their competion times back. The contractor was also handcuffed by extremely restrictive work schedules to minimize the impact to the wildlife both in and around the stream.
It seems that PennDOT, and all the other surrounding DOT's, are more worried about the environmentalists than the public, even though the whole point of the project is to make travel safer for the public.
Clearly, PennDOT did not intend for the two jobs to cause so much havoc. The contractor on the job is responsible for bidding the work acurately and meeting the schedule. Sometimes there are things that happen that make that impossible.
Now...if Main Street was open, how full would this forum be with complaints about the traffic/dust/noise/inconvenien ce because everyone was using it as an alternate to 309? Once Main is open, i'm sure we'll be rehashing this.
Most road projects use federal and state money. With federal and state money come environmental, historical and cultural regulations. Regs = more time and money.

The only way to speed things up is to get the laws changed. Talk to your federal and state elected officials.
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Apr 2, 2009
 

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RT Homeowner wrote:
Clearly, PennDOT did not intend for the two jobs to cause so much havoc. Now...if Main Street was open, how full would
You must be living in obamaland you dope.. Penn dot didn't intend on this mess??? It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what kind of traffic nightmare it would cause by working on 2 local projects at once within close proximity with NO local alternates for traffic...You don't consider Main a major artery?? You obviously don't know what your talking about..That IS the ONLY logical solution for traffic around this clusterfk ...IF Main st was open I don't think you would hear 1/2 the complaints that are going on now..

Hey wait a minute something just dawned on me ..

YOU MUST BE THE IDIOT FROM PENN DOT THAT APPOVED THIS NIGHTMARE!!!!
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Apr 2, 2009
 
Professor Chaos wrote:
BTW - just wanted to put this out for comment. What would be the problem with Coopersburg banning all points of entry and exit from side streets during the entire length of 309? If you need to access your home or a buisness you need to approach it from an alternate route. This way traffic could be get moving at a reasonable speed....?
I wonder if they'll consider it. Anything is better than what they have going on now. I've never seen anything more poorly planned than this one. It took me 20 mins to get through last night and there was NO backup before the merge. Luckily, I no the back way and I'll be using that from now on.
I think things would be much improved if they timed the lights better. The greens definitely need to be green longer. Do the simple math, same amount of cars, have as many lanes, greens stay green twice as long...

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