Obama Starts New War on Natural Gas
Barney

Perkasie, PA

#42 Feb 3, 2013
the higher road wrote:
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I wish I had the money to build something like that. I'd design it with nice big windows facing south and auto shades to pull down to cut the sun exposure when not needed.
It's really a return on investment thing. The longer you live in a home like that, the more you save. Unfortunately, the average home owner moves about every 7 years, and a lot of buyers aren't interested in that style of home.

A better return on investment is a geothermal heat pump because they can be installed in most new and existing single family homes. They use the temperature of the earth to heat and cool the home, and are considered a selling point by most buyers because of low utility bills.
Jersey Duke

Quakertown, PA

#43 Feb 3, 2013
dbar wrote:
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and the company that was fined has had trouble before.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the...
dumbar, you love government and regulations. I say again where were your wonderful regulators when the well was drilled? You can't even drill a water well around here without somebody watching you. This company has drilled more than 1.2 MILLION wells and how many have had problems? Time for you and your freak anti- american left wing commie friends to shut up!!
Nope

Broomall, PA

#44 Feb 3, 2013
Jersey Duke wrote:
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dumbar, you love government and regulations. I say again where were your wonderful regulators when the well was drilled? You can't even drill a water well around here without somebody watching you. This company has drilled more than 1.2 MILLION wells and how many have had problems? Time for you and your freak anti- american left wing commie friends to shut up!!
I swear to God he's a paid goon.
Joe

Fairfax, VA

#45 Feb 3, 2013
I can't believe anyone would actually oppose federal oversight of the natural gas industry. Thus far the industry has a terrible environmental record. For them it's all about profit.
Jersey Duke

Quakertown, PA

#46 Feb 3, 2013
Joe wrote:
I can't believe anyone would actually oppose federal oversight of the natural gas industry. Thus far the industry has a terrible environmental record. For them it's all about profit.
Ahh one of dumbar's freak anti-american commie friends speaks! The states are doing a fine job, who needs the feds messing around with everything?
Joe

Fairfax, VA

#47 Feb 3, 2013
Jersey Duke wrote:
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Ahh one of dumbar's freak anti-american commie friends speaks! The states are doing a fine job, who needs the feds messing around with everything?
The natural gas industry contributed $1M to Corbett's 2010 campaign. I don't trust him or the appointed officials at DER. We need federal oversight.
Info

Broomall, PA

#48 Feb 3, 2013
Joe wrote:
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The natural gas industry contributed $1M to Corbett's 2010 campaign. I don't trust him or the appointed officials at DER. We need federal oversight.
Really? You are the one crying about the evils of Wall Street, but they gave Obama over $15,000,000 during his first campaign.

You pick on one side, but defend the other, while both sides are in the pockets of corporations and neither is looking out for us.

That proves only one thing: You are just a mindless tool.
Joe

Fairfax, VA

#49 Feb 3, 2013
Info wrote:
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Really? You are the one crying about the evils of Wall Street, but they gave Obama over $15,000,000 during his first campaign.
You pick on one side, but defend the other, while both sides are in the pockets of corporations and neither is looking out for us.
That proves only one thing: You are just a mindless tool.
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The thread is about the dangers of an unregulated natural gas industry and the need for federal oversight. If you wish to discuss how Wall Street bankrolls both Parties we could have a lovely conversation about a conservative Supreme Court upholding Citizens United in 2010 and consequently opening the corporate money floodgates.
dbar

Quakertown, PA

#50 Feb 3, 2013
Jersey Duke wrote:
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dumbar, you love government and regulations. I say again where were your wonderful regulators when the well was drilled? You can't even drill a water well around here without somebody watching you. This company has drilled more than 1.2 MILLION wells and how many have had problems? Time for you and your freak anti- american left wing commie friends to shut up!!
yep and BP had a well drilled in the Gulf.
how did that work out?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizo...

"The panel found that BP, Halliburton, and Transocean had attempted to work more cheaply and thus helped to trigger the explosion and ensuing leakage."

do you really think the fracking companies are any different?
Jersey Duke

Quakertown, PA

#51 Feb 4, 2013
dbar wrote:
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yep and BP had a well drilled in the Gulf.
how did that work out?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizo...
"The panel found that BP, Halliburton, and Transocean had attempted to work more cheaply and thus helped to trigger the explosion and ensuing leakage."
do you really think the fracking companies are any different?
Your Govt. inspectors were taken from their duties by fancy dinners and tickets to sports events. So what good did all the regulations do? I don't think there will be a problem for a while since BP had to ante up over 5 Billion dollars. I think that would get all the companies attention. Now if they would just put all the sleezy government inspectors in jail for 10 years the system might work.
dbar

Quakertown, PA

#52 Feb 4, 2013
Jersey Duke wrote:
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Your Govt. inspectors were taken from their duties by fancy dinners and tickets to sports events. So what good did all the regulations do? I don't think there will be a problem for a while since BP had to ante up over 5 Billion dollars. I think that would get all the companies attention. Now if they would just put all the sleezy government inspectors in jail for 10 years the system might work.
care to name the BP official who went to jail for a disaster that killed eleven men?

when white collar crime gets you hard time instead of club fed then regulations will be followed.
Inquiring Mind

North Wales, PA

#53 Feb 4, 2013
dbar wrote:
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care to name the BP official who went to jail for a disaster that killed eleven men?
when white collar crime gets you hard time instead of club fed then regulations will be followed.
I think you just made Duke's point. It's not the BP official's fault they aren't in jail, it's the corrupt, inept, toothless government's fault.

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#54 Feb 4, 2013
No one will participate. No one will run gas companies, too risky. No one will bring the gas out of the ground. Jesus, It's cold in here! Somebody turn up the heat! Oh, they put the CEO of the gas company in jail? Gawd You are dense!
My president was elected by dead people!
Regards, Terri
dbar wrote:
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care to name the BP official who went to jail for a disaster that killed eleven men?
when white collar crime gets you hard time instead of club fed then regulations will be followed.
dbar

Quakertown, PA

#55 Feb 4, 2013
TerryE wrote:
No one will participate. No one will run gas companies, too risky. No one will bring the gas out of the ground. Jesus, It's cold in here! Somebody turn up the heat! Oh, they put the CEO of the gas company in jail? Gawd You are dense!
My president was elected by dead people!
Regards, Terri
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right, so you would just ignore companies that value profits over peoples lives.
dbar

Quakertown, PA

#56 Feb 4, 2013
Inquiring Mind wrote:
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I think you just made Duke's point. It's not the BP official's fault they aren't in jail, it's the corrupt, inept, toothless government's fault.
no the laws are not tough enough on those business people that kill their employees so they can generate a fraction more profit.
the BP operatives are the ones to blame.
Inquiring Mind

Quakertown, PA

#57 Feb 4, 2013
dbar wrote:
<quoted text>no the laws are not tough enough on those business people that kill their employees so they can generate a fraction more profit.
the BP operatives are the ones to blame.
So, BP makes the laws??? I must have missed that in civics class.
Jersey Duke

Quakertown, PA

#58 Feb 4, 2013
The problem is that if they try to prosecute the boys of BP they will have to take down the govt. inspectors with them, and you know obie wouldn't do that!
dbar

Quakertown, PA

#59 Feb 5, 2013
Inquiring Mind wrote:
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So, BP makes the laws??? I must have missed that in civics class.
their lobbyists manage to affect legislation.
after all we have the best Congress money can buy
dbar

Quakertown, PA

#60 Feb 5, 2013
Jersey Duke wrote:
The problem is that if they try to prosecute the boys of BP they will have to take down the govt. inspectors with them, and you know obie wouldn't do that!
not at all.
trying to excuse BP for their negligence is not logical.
excusing BP by claiming the inspectors are not as diligent as they should be is even more illogical.
but anytime you are in favor of giving the inspectors more power to regulate the industry --go ahead.

thinking that the industry will self regulate is just laughable.
Jersey Duke

Quakertown, PA

#61 Feb 5, 2013
dbar wrote:
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not at all.
trying to excuse BP for their negligence is not logical.
excusing BP by claiming the inspectors are not as diligent as they should be is even more illogical.
but anytime you are in favor of giving the inspectors more power to regulate the industry --go ahead.
thinking that the industry will self regulate is just laughable.
So why isn't Hillary in Jail for Benghazi, or Eric the witholder in jail for Fast and Furious. Same thing
The inspectors have plenty of power and are well paid. The government can't do anything right and you would give them more to do? You libs are a strange bunch!!

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