Why Oppose an Assault Rifle Ban?

Why Oppose an Assault Rifle Ban?

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Inquiring Mind

Quakertown, PA

#1 Apr 18, 2013
Here's what a Chalfont resident expressed in a recent Letter to the Editor to the Intell.

"A recent letter writer asked what are “they (gun owners) so afraid of." I appreciate this opportunity to try to answer that question. I speak only for myself.

Thinking as broadly as I can, I am most afraid of many of my fellow Americans who have fallen under the spell of the master prevaricator, Barack Obama. This man rarely speaks the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. His prevarications are so appealing, expansive, perverse and masterfully delivered in his unending pronouncements that patriotic, well-meaning Americans are fooled into believing him. You simply cannot believe what he says. If you seek the truth, you must study what he and his cohorts actually do.

Obama does not want to compromise. His concept of compromise is complete capitulation by his political adversaries, who are fighting to balance the budget over time and ultimately reduce our debt rather than increase it exponentially with ruinous results. How can anyone who voted for Obama accept his stance, openly stated, that “America does not have a spending problem”? Only if you choose to bury your head in the sand can you accept this position.

Obama has and continues to practice political class warfare. He has managed to convince millions of people that the very wealthy are their enemies. There are nowhere nearly enough billionaires and millionaires for him to tax, even at confiscatory levels, to get us out of the spending and debt mess we are in. You are the next to be taxed in enumerable ways.

I believe there is a more than 50 percent chance that Obama actually wants this country to fail financially and is working intentionally to make that happen. There is an even higher chance that he just doesn’t care. Why? So his precious "big government" can pick up the pieces and control the entire economy with the perverted thought that you must destroy capitalism and its perceived devils before you can totally reform it, just as an addict must reach bottom before he/she can be rehabilitated.

There is no entity that can save America financially. Unlike Greece, Spain, Italy and others, we have no EU savior. When we fail, there will be mass unemployment, people will see their government checks of all kinds drastically reduced or ended completely. People will be hungry, and there will be widespread social unrest, including riots and marauding, vandal gangs. Home invasions will be commonplace. Local and state police, even the National Guard, will be overwhelmed.

This is why I am afraid for my family and my country. When this happens, I will do anything I have to do to protect my wife and myself in our home. I would prefer to do it with my semiautomatic pistol and rifle. My reaction to all of the gun-control fanaticism has been to rejoin the NRA."

Bill Hendrix
Chalfont

Jersey Duke

Quakertown, PA

#2 Apr 18, 2013
Since obama came into office the government has completely taken over student loans, and the majority of mortgages. The Dodd Frank bill has all but taken over the banks. Not a whimper from anyone so far. How much longer will it take for him to take over everything else? He has his army, DHS stocked up with billions of hollow point bullets, tanks and automatic weapons. Only the NRA and other gun groups stand between obama and complete victory.
resident

Perkasie, PA

#3 Apr 18, 2013
Jersey Duke wrote:
Since obama came into office the government has completely taken over student loans, and the majority of mortgages. The Dodd Frank bill has all but taken over the banks. Not a whimper from anyone so far. How much longer will it take for him to take over everything else? He has his army, DHS stocked up with billions of hollow point bullets, tanks and automatic weapons. Only the NRA and other gun groups stand between obama and complete victory.
Move back to Jersey, you pollute this forum! Get a life!
dbar

Perkasie, PA

#4 Apr 18, 2013
Inquiring Mind wrote:
Here's what a Chalfont resident expressed in a recent Letter to the Editor to the Intell.
"A recent letter writer asked what are “they (gun owners) so afraid of." I appreciate this opportunity to try to answer that question. I speak only for myself.
Thinking as broadly as I can, I am most afraid of many of my fellow Americans who have fallen under the spell of the master prevaricator, Barack Obama. This man rarely speaks the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. His prevarications are so appealing, expansive, perverse and masterfully delivered in his unending pronouncements that patriotic, well-meaning Americans are fooled into believing him. You simply cannot believe what he says. If you seek the truth, you must study what he and his cohorts actually do.
Obama does not want to compromise. His concept of compromise is complete capitulation by his political adversaries, who are fighting to balance the budget over time and ultimately reduce our debt rather than increase it exponentially with ruinous results. How can anyone who voted for Obama accept his stance, openly stated, that “America does not have a spending problem”? Only if you choose to bury your head in the sand can you accept this position.
Obama has and continues to practice political class warfare. He has managed to convince millions of people that the very wealthy are their enemies. There are nowhere nearly enough billionaires and millionaires for him to tax, even at confiscatory levels, to get us out of the spending and debt mess we are in. You are the next to be taxed in enumerable ways.
I believe there is a more than 50 percent chance that Obama actually wants this country to fail financially and is working intentionally to make that happen. There is an even higher chance that he just doesn’t care. Why? So his precious "big government" can pick up the pieces and control the entire economy with the perverted thought that you must destroy capitalism and its perceived devils before you can totally reform it, just as an addict must reach bottom before he/she can be rehabilitated.
There is no entity that can save America financially. Unlike Greece, Spain, Italy and others, we have no EU savior. When we fail, there will be mass unemployment, people will see their government checks of all kinds drastically reduced or ended completely. People will be hungry, and there will be widespread social unrest, including riots and marauding, vandal gangs. Home invasions will be commonplace. Local and state police, even the National Guard, will be overwhelmed.
This is why I am afraid for my family and my country. When this happens, I will do anything I have to do to protect my wife and myself in our home. I would prefer to do it with my semiautomatic pistol and rifle. My reaction to all of the gun-control fanaticism has been to rejoin the NRA."
Bill Hendrix
Chalfont
or

http://www.nwfdailynews.com/opinion/letters-t...

"Heck of a job, National Rifle Association.

Im all for the Second Amendment. But all rights come with responsibilities. Those who want handguns, assault weapons and high-volume bullet-dispensing devices (whatever theyre called) should be sane and should pay for their social costs. That means really high taxes on these weapons to pay for guards at schools, to pay for mental health specialists to certify the sanity of new purchasers, and to pay for big insurance funds that will pay the survivors of victims of domestic gun violence and mass killings.

Take some of that personal responsibility. Break out your checkbooks.

STEVEN MEDINA
Fort Walton Beach"

guess it depends on which end of the assault rifle you are on.
dbar

Perkasie, PA

#5 Apr 18, 2013
or

http://www.nwfdailynews.com/opinion/letters-t...

"Heck of a job, National Rifle Association.

Im all for the Second Amendment. But all rights come with responsibilities. Those who want handguns, assault weapons and high-volume bullet-dispensing devices (whatever theyre called) should be sane and should pay for their social costs. That means really high taxes on these weapons to pay for guards at schools, to pay for mental health specialists to certify the sanity of new purchasers, and to pay for big insurance funds that will pay the survivors of victims of domestic gun violence and mass killings.

Take some of that personal responsibility. Break out your checkbooks.

STEVEN MEDINA
Fort Walton Beach"

guess it depends on which end of the assault rifle you are on.
dbar

Perkasie, PA

#6 Apr 19, 2013
well bill lets take this by section.

you said"You simply cannot believe what he says. If you seek the truth, you must study what he and his cohorts actually do."

so i guess when President Obama said bin laden was dead he was lying?
so trying to paint the President as lying all the time is not rational.
feel free to check all politicians as to what they say vs what they do.

then
you said" his political adversaries, who are fighting to balance the budget over time and ultimately reduce our debt "

well where were you bill when the former President put wars on the credit card?
with a VP who stated "deficits don't matter"

then
you said"has and continues to practice political class warfare"

hate to break it to you bill but the wealthy have been waging class warfare for quite some time now.
raising tax rates to the President Clinton era
on the wealthy (btw a prosperous time for them)
is not class warfare.

then
"actually wants this country to fail financially and is working intentionally to make that happen"

well bill why would "his political adversaries"
try to defend bonuses for the very people who tanked the economy at Wall St.
the idea that any President wants financial ruin is not rational.

then
"Unlike Greece, Spain, Italy and others'

well bill those countries wanted to put the entire financial sacrifice upon the middle class folks.
not everyone gets a haircut--the middle class gets gored.
claiming that you will have a mad max scenario is not rational.

then

"My reaction to all of the gun-control fanaticism has been to rejoin the NRA."

well bill good for you,
you have achieved the NRA goal maximize profits for gun dealers.
at one time the NRA supported common sense gun legislation.
today the NRA leadership wonders why anyone is upset-- after all the blood has been mopped of the floors in that school so it should be business as usual for those gun manufactures who make a higher profit per weapon on an assault rifle versus a hunting rifle.
they have managed to shill fear as a selling tool and business is good.

lastly bill you want to reduce spending--fair enough.
name the government program or service that you use,which you will give up to reduce the debt?
after all everyone should do their part to reduce the debt--so what are you willing to give up to help the country?
Jersey Duke

Quakertown, PA

#8 Apr 19, 2013
Putting the light of day on their insidious plots always makes doofusdar post like a maniac. I love it!!
Inquiring Mind

North Wales, PA

#9 Apr 19, 2013
dbar wrote:
well bill lets take this by section.
you said"You simply cannot believe what he says. If you seek the truth, you must study what he and his cohorts actually do."
so i guess when President Obama said bin laden was dead he was lying?
so trying to paint the President as lying all the time is not rational.
feel free to check all politicians as to what they say vs what they do.
then
you said" his political adversaries, who are fighting to balance the budget over time and ultimately reduce our debt "
well where were you bill when the former President put wars on the credit card?
with a VP who stated "deficits don't matter"
then
you said"has and continues to practice political class warfare"
hate to break it to you bill but the wealthy have been waging class warfare for quite some time now.
raising tax rates to the President Clinton era
on the wealthy (btw a prosperous time for them)
is not class warfare.
then
"actually wants this country to fail financially and is working intentionally to make that happen"
well bill why would "his political adversaries"
try to defend bonuses for the very people who tanked the economy at Wall St.
the idea that any President wants financial ruin is not rational.
then
"Unlike Greece, Spain, Italy and others'
well bill those countries wanted to put the entire financial sacrifice upon the middle class folks.
not everyone gets a haircut--the middle class gets gored.
claiming that you will have a mad max scenario is not rational.
then
"My reaction to all of the gun-control fanaticism has been to rejoin the NRA."
well bill good for you,
you have achieved the NRA goal maximize profits for gun dealers.
at one time the NRA supported common sense gun legislation.
today the NRA leadership wonders why anyone is upset-- after all the blood has been mopped of the floors in that school so it should be business as usual for those gun manufactures who make a higher profit per weapon on an assault rifle versus a hunting rifle.
they have managed to shill fear as a selling tool and business is good.
lastly bill you want to reduce spending--fair enough.
name the government program or service that you use,which you will give up to reduce the debt?
after all everyone should do their part to reduce the debt--so what are you willing to give up to help the country?
You do know you're not talking to "Bill", don't you? Many of these questions you ask "him" are the same ones that have been asked by you and answered by me and others many times. They don't get any more convincing with repetition. More grabbing at straws maybe.
dbar2

Quakertown, PA

#10 Apr 19, 2013
It is a running joke in gun-interest circles that Obama is the gun salesman of the year[1]. From the moment he won the Democratic nomination, gun sales in the US surged dramatically. If the joke were more honest, he might be called gun salesman of the decade. According to the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the economic impact of the firearm industry grew more than 50%(from $19 billion to $31 billion) between 2008 and 2011[2] In 2010, a record was set for the number of background checks filed for firearm purchases. That record was broken again in 2011.

All of this was largely the result of a campaign by gun rights advocates like the NRA to convince the country that Obama would be a gun control activist. To be sure, their concerns werent entirely baseless. In a 2004 NPR interview, then-senator Obama clearly stated that he not only supported the Federal Assault Weapons ban, but that he would continue to support a ban on concealed carry laws altogether.[3] The administration reaffirmed its support of the assault weapons ban in 2009.[4]

But, lacking political capital, Obama made no such push for gun control legislation. In fact, quite the opposite. During his first term he signed laws making it legal for people to carry concealed weapons in National Parks and in their checked luggage on Amtrak trains, provided they met their states requirements to do so. As a result, the Brady Campaign, the leading gun control lobbying group, gave Obama an F rating. When the administration was asked about how it would respond to the Aurora shooting, the first words out of spokesman Jay Carneys mouth were,We plan to uphold the second amendment. When the Sikh shooting happened, his press conference informed people that the President will continue to instruct his administration to take action towards common-sense measures that protect the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens but make it harder and harder for those who should not have weapons under existing law to obtain them.

Despite this conspicuously moderate viewpoint, the NRA continues to stoke the flames of fear, promising that once Obama is reelected to a second term, hell have no reason to hold back on the gun control legislation hes been wanting to implement since 2004. In fact, at a recent CPAC conference in Florida, NRA vice president Wayne LaPierre went so far as to suggest, without offering any evidence, that Obamas failure to act on gun control has been a massive Obama conspiracy to postpone his attack on the second amendment until his second term.[5] While I appreciate the NRAs vigilance on an issue I feel strongly about, I cant help but think that it is rants like this that make much of the populace totally unable to identify with the organization.

Meanwhile, the Aurora shooting, like all shootings, has revived the cries for gun control from the political Left. At a loss for somewhere to direct their grief, outrage and sense of justice after such a senseless tragedy, they are again calling for renewal of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994. If a second Obama administration will have the political capital to promote any gun control legislation at all, it will be the renewal of this ban. It will therefore benefit anyone interested in gun politics to review what the assault weapons ban was, what it was not, and how it affected (or failed to affect) the nation.
dbar

Perkasie, PA

#11 Apr 19, 2013
Inquiring Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
You do know you're not talking to "Bill", don't you? Many of these questions you ask "him" are the same ones that have been asked by you and answered by me and others many times. They don't get any more convincing with repetition. More grabbing at straws maybe.
why of course.
and the last one in particular you never really answered.
if i remember correctly you did not want to sacrifice anything.
you wanted everyone else to.
BTW that is normal for everyone.
i do not mean it as a personal dig.
Jersey Duke

Quakertown, PA

#12 Apr 20, 2013
Dumbardoofus, you like to ask what Federal services I could do without.
Dept. of Commerce
Dept. of Energy
Dept. of Education
Foreign Aid
Half, at least, of Food Stamps
Half, at least, of Disability.

Just for a start.
Inquiring Mind

Quakertown, PA

#13 Apr 20, 2013
dbar wrote:
<quoted text>why of course.
and the last one in particular you never really answered.
if i remember correctly you did not want to sacrifice anything.
you wanted everyone else to.
BTW that is normal for everyone.
i do not mean it as a personal dig.
You don't remember correctly. I said I would be willing to do my part to get the country's finances back on the right track if a sensible, fair plan was presented. I already pay over $100k per year in taxes, so I think I'm contributing more than most.
dbar

Perkasie, PA

#14 Apr 20, 2013
Jersey Duke wrote:
Dumbardoofus, you like to ask what Federal services I could do without.
Dept. of Commerce
Dept. of Energy
Dept. of Education
Foreign Aid
Half, at least, of Food Stamps
Half, at least, of Disability.
Just for a start.
and you use those federal services?
name the program or service that you personally use and are willing to give up to reduce the debt?
dbar

Perkasie, PA

#15 Apr 20, 2013
Inquiring Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't remember correctly. I said I would be willing to do my part to get the country's finances back on the right track if a sensible, fair plan was presented. I already pay over $100k per year in taxes, so I think I'm contributing more than most.
depends on the percentage of income of all taxes paid.
Jersey Duke

Quakertown, PA

#16 Apr 21, 2013
dbar wrote:
<quoted text>
and you use those federal services?
name the program or service that you personally use and are willing to give up to reduce the debt?
O geez, I thought you meant which federal agencies could be scrapped without anyone missing them. Sorry. I don't need any federal help except the enumerated powers in the constitution. Mostly the defense of our country. Most of the rest of the things they do should be eliminated, and run by the states or charities.

Since: Jan 09

Central NJ

#20 Apr 21, 2013
Rights are not conditional! There are no "Responsibilities"
My president was elected by dead people!
Regards, Terri
dbar wrote:
or
http://www.nwfdailynews.com/opinion/letters-t...
"Heck of a job, National Rifle Association.
Im all for the Second Amendment. But all rights come with responsibilities. Those who want handguns, assault weapons and high-volume bullet-dispensing devices (whatever theyre called) should be sane and should pay for their social costs. That means really high taxes on these weapons to pay for guards at schools, to pay for mental health specialists to certify the sanity of new purchasers, and to pay for big insurance funds that will pay the survivors of victims of domestic gun violence and mass killings.
Take some of that personal responsibility. Break out your checkbooks.
STEVEN MEDINA
Fort Walton Beach"
guess it depends on which end of the assault rifle you are on.
Inquiring Mind

Cape May, NJ

#21 Apr 21, 2013
dbar wrote:
<quoted text>depends on the percentage of income of all taxes paid.
No, it doesn't. Or almost half of the population would pay at least SOME federal income tax and nobody would get thousands of dollars in "refunds" from other people's taxes - i.e.,a negative income tax.
Question

Hatfield, PA

#22 Apr 21, 2013
I don't support a semi-automatic assault rifle ban or a federal registry, but I do support background checks for everyone who wants to buy a gun. I personally know 4 people who own guns who would have never passed a background check. 3 have felonies, and one is just and out-right nut case.
dbar

Perkasie, PA

#23 Apr 21, 2013
Inquiring Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
No, it doesn't. Or almost half of the population would pay at least SOME federal income tax and nobody would get thousands of dollars in "refunds" from other people's taxes - i.e.,a negative income tax.
and at least 7 thousand,million dollar income tax filers paid zero federal taxes recently.
so i guess they should pay SOME federal tax.
but they do not and no conservatives are clamoring to make sure they do.
hammering the poor into the dirt is their more favorite blood sport.

and yet the republican candidate for President.
the guy republicans forgot about by now --romney
paid 13 percent on his federal taxes. i have paid a higher rate than that.
and that is without Swiss bank accounts and Cayman island tax shelters.
i would like the same IRA deal that he got as well.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2...

"And that when you couple that with his agenda, which is to cut taxes further for those people, it gets to the heart of this idea that there are two Americas, one for the very, very, very rich and one for everyone else."

so yes percentage of all taxes paid can have millionaires paying lower rates than factory workers.
dbar

Perkasie, PA

#24 Apr 21, 2013
Rebelolution wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you kidding me? Crawl back into your Communist Manifesto. We don't play your Game. Get a Job. Become a useful, productive individual. Or get the hell out of my country.
talk to

STEVEN MEDINA
Fort Walton Beach

i have no problem with responsible people owning firearms.
i have a problem with age,money,and the ability to fog a mirror with the person's breath as the only real main requirements to ownership.
how many of those "yosemite sam" types manage to shoot themselves while cleaning their firearm or kids get a hold of a loaded weapon
or the other various ways non responsible people cause damage with those firearms.
even in Colonial times you were required to drill with those weapons(prove you knew how to use them) and they kept a registry of who and what type weapons were owned.
gee they had basically a national registry and yet none of the founding fathers thought that was a bad idea.

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