Jersey Duke

Quakertown, PA

#1 Apr 17, 2013
You know it costs more than a million dollars a year per prisoner to keep Gitmmo going. Time to send Sheriff Joe down there to give them a reality check. Pentagon has plans to do a $150 million dollar upgrade to the place too. Pretty soon they could sell rooms for the Islamic vacation trade. Why are we force feeding these terrorists? Let them go meet their virgins!!!
common sense

Allentown, PA

#2 Apr 17, 2013
Anyone getting a multiple life sentence or someone who kills officals or children should get automatic death sentence. A 22 to the head doesn't cost much & it is more humane then the crimes they did. I for one am sick of paying for criminals to live when they are never getting out, save everyone some tax dollars.
Character

Hatfield, PA

#3 Apr 17, 2013
Jersey Duke wrote:
You know it costs more than a million dollars a year per prisoner to keep Gitmmo going. Time to send Sheriff Joe down there to give them a reality check. Pentagon has plans to do a $150 million dollar upgrade to the place too. Pretty soon they could sell rooms for the Islamic vacation trade. Why are we force feeding these terrorists? Let them go meet their virgins!!!
Obama tried to close Gitmo and the Neo-Cons wouldn't let him.
Jersey Duke

Quakertown, PA

#4 Apr 17, 2013
Character wrote:
<quoted text>Obama tried to close Gitmo and the Neo-Cons wouldn't let him.
It doesn't need to be closed, it just needs some common sense reform. Tents with razor wire, and pink underwear would be enough for these rotten terrorists, they don't need to have club Gitmo down there, with their own chef and 24 hour access to recreation. They live better than some hard working people here.
Inquiring Mind

Quakertown, PA

#5 Apr 17, 2013
Character wrote:
<quoted text>Obama tried to close Gitmo and the Neo-Cons wouldn't let him.
WRONG. It was (and is) Obama's decision, based on the fact that no suitable facility was available. He could close it with the stroke of a pen. He wised up. So should you.
dbar

Perkasie, PA

#6 Apr 18, 2013
Inquiring Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
WRONG. It was (and is) Obama's decision, based on the fact that no suitable facility was available. He could close it with the stroke of a pen. He wised up. So should you.
try
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R40754.pdf

"The majority of these enactments contain restrictions on the use of
appropriated funds to transfer or release Guantanamo detainees into the United States; the most
stringent restriction being found in the 2011 NDAA, which includes a blanket prohibition on the
use of authorized funds to transfer or release Guantanamo detainees into the country for any
purpose"

in other words no money to transfer or incarcerate anyone from Gitmo.

as to a facility to put them in

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomson_Correcti...

"This statement was echoed in letter from U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder. "I have committed that no Guantanamo detainees will be transferred to Thomson. As you know, any such transfer would violate express legal statutory prohibitions," Holder said in a letter to Representative Frank Wolf, who fought the proposal."

the prison was to be upgraded to above "supermax" standards.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/15/f...

" the promise that the federal government will renovate the maximum security prison so that “after acquisition it will be enhanced to exceed perimeter security standards at the nation’s only ‘supermax’ prison in Florence, Colorado, where there has never been an escape or external attack.”

The federal “supermax” facility in Colorado is home to prominent Islamic militants convicted of terrorist offenses, including Ramzi Yousef, who carried out the World Trade Center bomber in 1993"

Congres stopped the moving of prisoners to a secure but cheaper facility.
Jersey Duke

Quakertown, PA

#7 Apr 18, 2013
dbar wrote:
<quoted text>
try
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R40754.pdf
"The majority of these enactments contain restrictions on the use of
appropriated funds to transfer or release Guantanamo detainees into the United States; the most
stringent restriction being found in the 2011 NDAA, which includes a blanket prohibition on the
use of authorized funds to transfer or release Guantanamo detainees into the country for any
purpose"
in other words no money to transfer or incarcerate anyone from Gitmo.
as to a facility to put them in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomson_Correcti...
"This statement was echoed in letter from U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder. "I have committed that no Guantanamo detainees will be transferred to Thomson. As you know, any such transfer would violate express legal statutory prohibitions," Holder said in a letter to Representative Frank Wolf, who fought the proposal."
the prison was to be upgraded to above "supermax" standards.
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/15/f...
" the promise that the federal government will renovate the maximum security prison so that “after acquisition it will be enhanced to exceed perimeter security standards at the nation’s only ‘supermax’ prison in Florence, Colorado, where there has never been an escape or external attack.”
The federal “supermax” facility in Colorado is home to prominent Islamic militants convicted of terrorist offenses, including Ramzi Yousef, who carried out the World Trade Center bomber in 1993"
Congres stopped the moving of prisoners to a secure but cheaper facility.
You are as full of hot air as your boss Obama, doofusdar
Inquiring Mind

North Wales, PA

#8 Apr 18, 2013
dbar wrote:
<quoted text>
try
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R40754.pdf
"The majority of these enactments contain restrictions on the use of
appropriated funds to transfer or release Guantanamo detainees into the United States; the most
stringent restriction being found in the 2011 NDAA, which includes a blanket prohibition on the
use of authorized funds to transfer or release Guantanamo detainees into the country for any
purpose"
in other words no money to transfer or incarcerate anyone from Gitmo.
as to a facility to put them in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomson_Correcti...
"This statement was echoed in letter from U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder. "I have committed that no Guantanamo detainees will be transferred to Thomson. As you know, any such transfer would violate express legal statutory prohibitions," Holder said in a letter to Representative Frank Wolf, who fought the proposal."
the prison was to be upgraded to above "supermax" standards.
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/15/f...
" the promise that the federal government will renovate the maximum security prison so that “after acquisition it will be enhanced to exceed perimeter security standards at the nation’s only ‘supermax’ prison in Florence, Colorado, where there has never been an escape or external attack.”
The federal “supermax” facility in Colorado is home to prominent Islamic militants convicted of terrorist offenses, including Ramzi Yousef, who carried out the World Trade Center bomber in 1993"
Congres stopped the moving of prisoners to a secure but cheaper facility.
So, it's not as easy as I thought for Obama to close Gitmo. Probably not as easy as HE thought either. That noted "neocon" Dianne Feinstein and other legislators realized that Obama's knee-jerk campaign promise was ill-thought out from the start. Obama could have pressed his case and didn't. From your source:

(Democrat) "Senator Dianne Feinstein noted that “the hard part about closing Guantanamo is not deciding to go do it; it is figuring out what to do with the remaining detainees.”

Shoot...ready...aim.
dbar

Perkasie, PA

#9 Apr 18, 2013
Inquiring Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
So, it's not as easy as I thought for Obama to close Gitmo. Probably not as easy as HE thought either. That noted "neocon" Dianne Feinstein and other legislators realized that Obama's knee-jerk campaign promise was ill-thought out from the start. Obama could have pressed his case and didn't. From your source:
(Democrat) "Senator Dianne Feinstein noted that “the hard part about closing Guantanamo is not deciding to go do it; it is figuring out what to do with the remaining detainees.”
Shoot...ready...aim.
not when Congress shut off the funds.

"None of the funds authorized to be appropriated by this Act for fiscal year 2011 may be used
to transfer, release, or assist in the transfer or release to or within the United States, its
territories, or possessions of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed or any other detainee who (1) is not
a United States citizen or a member of the Armed Forces of the United States; and (2) is or
was held on or after January 20, 2009, at United States Naval Station, Guantanamo Bay,
Cuba, by the Department of Defense.

from

http://armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/file...

"HASC Republicans will make it clear that we do not support importing terrorists detained at Guantanamo Bay into the United States—neither for confinement nor trial."

"Courtesy of House Armed Services Committee Republicans
Rep. Howard P.“Buck” McKeon (R-CA), Ranking Member"

and concerning gitmo.

i guess a "knee-jerk" reaction involving these politicians?

"the report does mention that President Bush,Senator McCain,and then Senator Obama all agreed in 2008 on the need to close gtmo prison--and therefore the need to do something with the detainees"

http://armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/file...
Inquiring Mind

North Wales, PA

#10 Apr 19, 2013
dbar wrote:
<quoted text>
not when Congress shut off the funds.
"None of the funds authorized to be appropriated by this Act for fiscal year 2011 may be used
to transfer, release, or assist in the transfer or release to or within the United States, its
territories, or possessions of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed or any other detainee who (1) is not
a United States citizen or a member of the Armed Forces of the United States; and (2) is or
was held on or after January 20, 2009, at United States Naval Station, Guantanamo Bay,
Cuba, by the Department of Defense.
from
http://armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/file...
"HASC Republicans will make it clear that we do not support importing terrorists detained at Guantanamo Bay into the United States—neither for confinement nor trial."
"Courtesy of House Armed Services Committee Republicans
Rep. Howard P.“Buck” McKeon (R-CA), Ranking Member"
and concerning gitmo.
i guess a "knee-jerk" reaction involving these politicians?
"the report does mention that President Bush,Senator McCain,and then Senator Obama all agreed in 2008 on the need to close gtmo prison--and therefore the need to do something with the detainees"
http://armedservices.house.gov/index.cfm/file...
It's not that he couldn't fight it - he chose not to. Look how he rammed and bribed the Obamacare bill through. With Gitmo, he put his finger in the wind and saw that it wasn't a political promise he had to keep (among others)to get re-elected.

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