Question about "free estimates" from ...
OMG

Lansdale, PA

#21 Mar 28, 2013
Lehigh Valley Resident wrote:
<quoted text>Do you have a company you recommend for roof cleaning/power washing?
How much work could he have, he probable lives in a trailer.
Agree

Quakertown, PA

#22 Mar 28, 2013
Lehigh Valley Resident wrote:
<quoted text>Do you have a company you recommend for roof cleaning/power washing?
Roof Rescue. http://www.roof-rescue.com/

Does good, quality work. Reasonable price, and doesn't scrub your shingles or high pressure wash on the siding. He's right here in the Quakertown area.
Agree

Quakertown, PA

#23 Mar 28, 2013
OMG wrote:
<quoted text>Why are you posting under so many names? We got your opinion when you were "Troll Alert", "the higher road", and now "Agree". Will you shut-up already! Damn, some people are idiots!
Excuse me? I only posted as this name, not the other ones.

You need to lighten up a bit.
Agree

Quakertown, PA

#24 Mar 28, 2013
OMG wrote:
<quoted text>How much work could he have, he probable lives in a trailer.
No, I live in a 2 story, 2500 square foot house. What's your beef, buddy?
Thirty

Hatfield, PA

#25 Mar 28, 2013
Agree wrote:
<quoted text>No, I live in a 2 story, 2500 square foot house. What's your beef, buddy?
OMG has a problem with everyone.
plato

Quakertown, PA

#26 Mar 28, 2013
Agree wrote:
<quoted text>Excuse me? I only posted as this name, not the other ones.
You need to lighten up a bit.
So 'Purple' has been retired?
OMG

Lansdale, PA

#27 Mar 28, 2013
HAHA Beatoffs!
JJJ

Lafayette Hill, PA

#28 Mar 28, 2013
I've only had a few estimates done for work around my house. In some cases it was for work I definitely needed done and hired one of the companies. In some cases I just need to get an idea of what something will cost in order to figure out if it's a priority in fixing up the house.

If a contractor charged for an estimate I may not call them if it's something I'm not sure about doing yet, if that makes sense.
Anonymous

Quakertown, PA

#30 Mar 28, 2013
I guess OMG, u funny, and contractor are all the same person too.
contractor

Perkasie, PA

#31 Mar 28, 2013
I suggest all of you crack heads that live in the bush house go over the contractortalk.com and do a search for charging for estimates. Another professional sites like mike holt forum and electriciantalk.com

Most of the idiots here are freeloaders anyway I'm asking the wrong crowd.

Idiots living in a fantasy world expecting things for free must be the typical Obmama supporters.

Funny if your boss asked you to do something without getting paid you would cry a river but you expect free things from contractors.

haha hilarious and dilusional at the same time
contractor

Perkasie, PA

#32 Mar 28, 2013
Lots of nutty conspiracy tin foil hat wearers here I see also. If they read something they don't like they start saying "this guy is a troll he is the same person as this and that"

If you have all that time to track user habits on here you seriously need mental help.
contractor

Perkasie, PA

#33 Mar 28, 2013
27 Years wrote:
<quoted text>I understand your reasoning, but it’s flawed. I tried that years ago, and it doesn’t work. When you tell a customer you charge for estimates, most of the time they’re not going to set up an appointment (unless you were referred by someone they trust). Free estimates are a way of life, and as long as some contractors don’t charge, you greatly decrease your chances of getting in the door.
The first thing you need to do is to sell yourself to a new customer. You normally can’t do that without a face to face meeting. If they don’t even like you, you won’t get the job, no matter what. You also need to change your feelings that customers are “wasting your time”. They very well might be, but customers will sense that, and you probably won’t get the job. Find something you have in common with the customer and talk about that first. Develop a genuine interest in the customer and ask questions, but never talk politics or religion. If the customer likes you and you're both are on the same page, you have a good chance of getting the job.
I suspect some of your frustration comes from customers “picking your brain”. When looking at a job, don’t give too many details about how you’ll do an installation. Call the customer with a price, but still do not give too many details. If a customer seems to like the price, give some details over the phone. If they're interested, tell them you'll deliver a proposal, answer any specific questions, and get a down payment. If they tell you over the phone they need time to think about it, or they want you to mail a contract, tell them you'll draw up the proposal when you have time. When writing a proposal, don’t give too many details in the proposal. Customers will often give the proposal to a competitor and say "beat this".
If you’re looking to charge $25, you might as well not be charging anything at all. When you figure in what you pay yourself, plus and worker’s comp, social security, health care, sick days, unemployment compensation, vacations, paid holidays, non-productive time, company overhead, and taxes, you come up with a lot more than that.
The big companies aren’t charging for estimates up front, but they’re adding it into each estimate. Figure out what percentage of the jobs you actually get. If you get one out of every four, multiply your true hourly costs times four and add that to each estimate.
I'm sorry it didn't work out for you. I charge for my time and estimates and yes I lose callers but not customers. To me a person balking at $25 will be the same person nick and diming me and trying to scam me out of money. So they do me a great favor by calling someone else.
contractor

Perkasie, PA

#34 Mar 28, 2013
And in closing...

I chose to work for quality customers just like people chose to work for quality contractors it's a two way street.

Some would say in a down economy you need to take what you can get...nope. My business has fixed costs and with the costs of everything rising I can't afford to deal with the scammers that say:

"I can't afford much I have lots of bills" Contractors have all the same bills you do and more.

You complain about filling the tank in your car? How about filling a work truck for close to $100 every 3-5 days and my own personal vehicle needs fuel too.

The costs that contractors have is insane with thousands of dollars of tools they need to have and thousands in material stock.

So in the end I qualify my customers better with charging this fee. Some would say you are going to lose customers...nope all I would lose is a bunch of trouble.

I've been at this for 17 years now and started charging a few years ago and it's working fine. Most of my work is in areas where most people work not Quakertown.

Thanks for the input though it gave me some laughs.

good luck
use your head

Sellersville, PA

#35 Mar 28, 2013
contractor wrote:
And in closing...

I chose to work for quality customers just like people chose to work for quality contractors it's a two way street.

Some would say in a down economy you need to take what you can get...nope. My business has fixed costs and with the costs of everything rising I can't afford to deal with the scammers that say:

"I can't afford much I have lots of bills" Contractors have all the same bills you do and more.

You complain about filling the tank in your car? How about filling a work truck for close to $100 every 3-5 days and my own personal vehicle needs fuel too.

The costs that contractors have is insane with thousands of dollars of tools they need to have and thousands in material stock.

So in the end I qualify my customers better with charging this fee. Some would say you are going to lose customers...nope all I would lose is a bunch of trouble.

I've been at this for 17 years now and started charging a few years ago and it's working fine. Most of my work is in areas where most people work not Quakertown.

Thanks for the input though it gave me some laughs.

good luck
Bye now. Your not needed in quakertown. TAKE A HIKE MANNY.
Ecjp

Hatfield, PA

#36 Mar 29, 2013
contractor wrote:
And in closing...
I chose to work for quality customers just like people chose to work for quality contractors it's a two way street.
Some would say in a down economy you need to take what you can get...nope. My business has fixed costs and with the costs of everything rising I can't afford to deal with the scammers that say:
"I can't afford much I have lots of bills" Contractors have all the same bills you do and more.
You complain about filling the tank in your car? How about filling a work truck for close to $100 every 3-5 days and my own personal vehicle needs fuel too.
The costs that contractors have is insane with thousands of dollars of tools they need to have and thousands in material stock.
So in the end I qualify my customers better with charging this fee. Some would say you are going to lose customers...nope all I would lose is a bunch of trouble.
I've been at this for 17 years now and started charging a few years ago and it's working fine. Most of my work is in areas where most people work not Quakertown.
Thanks for the input though it gave me some laughs.
good luck
You're obviously an unhappy person, maybe you should look for a new line of work.
contractor

Perkasie, PA

#37 Mar 29, 2013
Ecjp wrote:
<quoted text>You're obviously an unhappy person, maybe you should look for a new line of work.
The exact opposite actually. I love what I do and my customers love the top notch work I do. I'm on my way out to work on finishing a basement right now in Buckingham a town where people care about quality.
OMG

Lansdale, PA

#38 Mar 29, 2013
If you're doing so well, why do you have time to bitch on here? It does sound like you're unhappy and that you hate people. If you've been at it for 17yrs. you should already be adding that cost to the cosumer. Now shut your crying up and get back to work!
Ecjp

Hatfield, PA

#39 Mar 29, 2013
contractor wrote:
<quoted text>
The exact opposite actually. I love what I do and my customers love the top notch work I do. I'm on my way out to work on finishing a basement right now in Buckingham a town where people care about quality.
If you were making enough money, you could afford to live near where most of your work is. Then you wouldn't have to complain about spending $25 for gas money. You aren't even smart enough to use a high mileage vehicle for estimates.

Contractors who want $25 for an estimate are cheap. That tells customers you're going to cut corners on material and labor. Guys like you are a dime a dozen. Give me a contractor who does decent work and has good communication skills any day.
try this

Quakertown, PA

#40 Mar 29, 2013
Most contractors that I have dealt with will usually give the estimate when they have a job that is close to where I live. It just makes sense, he's already near my home and will not be wasting the gas. And the estimate is free.
contractor

Perkasie, PA

#41 Mar 29, 2013
Ecjp wrote:
<quoted text>If you were making enough money, you could afford to live near where most of your work is. Then you wouldn't have to complain about spending $25 for gas money. You aren't even smart enough to use a high mileage vehicle for estimates.
Contractors who want $25 for an estimate are cheap. That tells customers you're going to cut corners on material and labor. Guys like you are a dime a dozen. Give me a contractor who does decent work and has good communication skills any day.
Thanks for the laugh. You still can't get my damn fast food order correct how hard is your job? I work hard all day and I go for a cheeseburger and you hand me chicken nuggets. Damn idiot.

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