Nothing wrong with opposing views. Free speech is a cornerstone of our society. Those people on FOX just belittle those types of guests.<quoted text>
You obviously don't watch. So your contention is it's better not to have any opposing views. Sounds obnoxious to me.
#21 Mar 9, 2013
#22 Mar 9, 2013
By saying "those people", you show your bias. All of the hosts are not the same and "belittle" is too strong of a word for most of them.
Liberal contributors and guests are allowed to make their points and are often given "the last word," Filibusters and spin by Liberals are discouraged as those time-wasting tricks should be.
The segments are very time-limited precisely because opposing views are presented. When you present no opposing views, you don't have to worry about staying on focus.
#23 Mar 9, 2013
so billo respectfully called Colmes what?
he did not shout him down?
he did not double down.
that is acceptable?
#24 Mar 9, 2013
If you're a regular viewer of O'Reilly, you would know that there is a running, good-natured "belittling" of Colmes and Powers, both STAFF contributors and not guests. Hannity is also guilty of this banter.
Even so, Bill really went off in this particular segment against Colmes and apologized for it several times that night and the following night. It doesn't happen often. Still, Colmes made his point and Powers was allowed to defend him. He's also given a "hard time" to Juan Williams on occasion. He has a low tolerance for anyone who deflects from the question. I think you would have a tough time on his show, now that I think of it (kidding).
Is it acceptable? It's his show and he can do what he wants. I guarantee you that Colmes and Powers will be back on. Let's see if Bill is invited back on The View.
Besides FNC, the only show that I know of that sometimes has a Conservative guest on is Jon Stuart, and that's a news/comedy show on cable. Is THAT acceptable?
#25 Mar 9, 2013
He asked Colmes for specifics, i.e. exact amounts, age limits, etc., FOUR times and Colmes didn't give him any...because there aren't any! There are generalities. Ryan gave a specific age to raise the retirement age. THAT is what O'Reilly was looking for, but didn't get from either Alan or Kirsten.
BTW, O'Reilly has invited every opposing Democrat from DC on his program and very few take him up on it. He even had the student editor of the Harvard student paper on because of the article where he chastised O'Reilly for criticizing his own alma mater. He went easy on the kid, when he could've torn him to shreds, but he didn't.
#26 Mar 9, 2013
Yes, and Juan Williams is a frequent substitute host, while Liberal Bob Beckel is now a regular who gives O'Reilly no ground.
#27 Mar 9, 2013
watch his clip.
billo said no programs were on the table.
colmes said there were.
colmes was right.
colmes even said the name of the programs.
#28 Mar 9, 2013
I watched it and didn't hear any specifics, just generalities based on suppositions. Colmes was clearly unprepared for the blowback. Given more time, he may have come up with something. But he was used to getting by with a kneejerk Liberal response and didn't expect to be challenged.
#29 Mar 9, 2013
and billo said name a program.
then billo stated that colmes was lying.
billo started his specifics claim after he was called on his crude behavior.
from the transcript
O'REILLY: But here he hasn't even submitted any proposals don't you see the difference?
so billo is correct in that statement?
not by any reasonable means.
O'REILLY: There is nothing put forth, nothing.
COLMES: Yes, he has, he's offered cuts in Medicare. Offered cuts to entitlements.
O'REILLY: No, that's not specific. He has to say here are the programs that are going to go down. Here is how we're going to reform Medicare and Social Security. And the man refuses to do it.
so here is his first mention of specifics.
note this is after Colmes says cuts were offered.
O'REILLY: All right, hold it -- hold it because now I'm getting teed off at you. Give me one damn program he said he would cut? One?
COLMES: He has cut entitlements.
O'REILLY: Not entitlements. One program.
COLMES: What do you want to yell for?
O'REILLY: Because you are lying.
COLMES: I'm not lying.
O'REILLY: You are lying.
COLMES: Don't call me a liar. Don't just sit there and call me a liar.
O'REILLY: No you're lying.
COLMES: I'm not lying.
COLMES: There is a difference between having a disagreement and calling me a liar. This is a personal attack.
O'REILLY: Yes this is why I'm calling a liar. Give me one program he would cut.
COLMES: He would cut Medicare and Medicaid he actually cut he has offered cuts --
O'REILLY: That's not a specific program.
COLMES: You asked me a program. Those are programs.
O'REILLY: All right.
COLMES: Those are programs.
so now billo agrees that Colmes mentioned the programs to be cut.
O'REILLY: All I'm so angry about it and I apologize to you, Colmes. I shouldn't have used the word "lie" but you did not put forth here anything that he would do.
COLMES: Cutting reimbursements to hospitals and doctors.
O'REILLY: Yes you don't know how much. You don't know where, you don't know to whom, you don't know anything.
COLMES: You asked me which programs.
so billo was quite wrong on whether proposals to cut programs were mentioned.
#30 Mar 10, 2013
obama would cut the amount reimbursed for medicare doctors and hospitals. Guess what, the elderly would never get treatment. When you go to the doctor, ever notice the bank of sectrtaries doing government and insurance paperwork? I know in the old days doctors and dentists often answered the phone and did their own paperwok. I agree there appears to be a lot of fraud in these programs, but cutting legimitate reimbursements won't do the trick. This is the democrat way of cutting medicare, make them die!
#31 Mar 10, 2013
How does an ButtWipe like you even manage to breath?
#32 Mar 10, 2013
Cuts to doctors and hospitals?
Cut what? By how much? After what percentage?
Again, O'Reilly was correct: there were no specifics given, just generalities.
#33 Mar 10, 2013
"Hasselbeck has gotten into numerous dustups with her more liberal co-hosts over the years, including a heated argument with Rosie O'Donnell over the Iraq war, which she supported and O'Donnell opposed, and a debate over the morning after pill that left Hasselbeck in tears because she considers the pill equivalent to an abortion."
Perhaps she was fired for disseminating misinformation based on false beliefs rather than facts.
Pregnancy doesn't happen right after sex. That's why it's possible to prevent pregnancy even after the fact. It can take up to six days for the sperm and egg to meet after having sex. Emergency contraception pills work by keeping a woman's ovary from releasing an egg for longer than usual. Pregnancy cannot happen if there is no egg to join with sperm.
Hasselbeck may believe that the morning-after pill causes an abortion. But that's not true. The morning-after pill is not the abortion pill. Emergency contraception is birth control, not abortion.
As regarding the Iraq War, history has proved Rosie was on the "Right" side and Hasselbeck was out in left field because she was misled by misinformation.
#34 Mar 10, 2013
The Democrats starting point for Medicare and Medicaid cuts IS WHAT OBAMA PROPOSED TO TRIM FROM THE PROGRAMS IN HIS 2013 BUDGET. CBO estimated those cuts would total $351 billion over 10 years.
The biggest savings in Obamas budget proposal would be $137 billion from requiring drugmakers to give Medicare the same rebates for medicines for low-income recipients that are allowed for Medicaids purchase of prescription drugs, according to the CBO estimate.
More than $45 billion in savings would come from cutting reimbursements for providers of some post-acute care, such as rehabilitation services and home-health care. Almost $24 billion would be saved by reducing the governments coverage of bad debts that hospitals incur from patients who dont pay their bills.
For Medicaid, the health-care system for low-income Americans, Obamas budget would revise the formula for payments to states and make other changes for a 10-year savings of about $70 billion, according to CBO. Republicans have proposed making Medicaid a block grant-style program and turning it over to the states.
#35 Mar 10, 2013
Most of what you say is true, except the real reason she was fired is because ratings kept going down because of her.
#36 Mar 10, 2013
I am amazed anybody would watch those hags and bags at all.
#37 Mar 10, 2013
manage to breath?
perhaps the word breathe might be what you are looking for.
if your going to be insulting you could at least manage to get your wording correct.
perhaps you can get better at it in the future.
#38 Mar 10, 2013
and you did not read the transcript.
billo tried the "specifics" game after the fact.
in the transcript he admits that Colmes named a program.
so billo got it wrong.
#39 Mar 10, 2013
Didn't have read it. I watched it. It wasn't after the fact. Colmes named a program, but no specifics were given.
You can't spin this your way, dbar.
#40 Mar 10, 2013
The problem with cutting reimbursements is that it will also cut providers. If they aren't making money, they'll drop Medicare. The Mayo Clinic in Arizona has already done this. It's just the beginning. These aren't specific cuts; they are open-ended scenarios.
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