South Whitehall, residents agree: No need for speed

South Whitehall leaders are expected to lower speed limits on several streets and consider other steps to slow motorists in a large subdivision after residents there complained that lead-footed drivers are making their neighborhood feel like a ''drag strip.'' More than a dozen residents from the Cedar Creek Farms development attended Wednesday's ... Full Story
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NoOneSpecial

Whitehall, PA

#1 Jul 17, 2009
Increasing the amount of stop signs are not going to solve this problem. I live in this development and I see people go right thru the stop signs on a daily basis. Yes I agree the twsp needs to do something, maybe speed bumps. My son was almost hit by an SUV driven by someone who lives in this development who did not stop at the stop sign on Schaller and Jervin.
William

United States

#2 Jul 17, 2009
Speed bumps are the answer.
Lehigh Valley Resident

Bethlehem, PA

#3 Jul 17, 2009
Speed HUMPS as there called in Allentown followed by a Speed dip, sank in the roadway is a great way to slow cars and or trucks down
Pillows the Space Clown

Hazleton, PA

#4 Jul 17, 2009
The people in CCF drive like maniacs. They rarely ever stop at the stop sign befor pulling out from Dylan Drive onto Parkway Road.
Cedar Creek Farm Resident

South River, NJ

#7 Jul 17, 2009
Exactly how is it that you know who the speeders are? I have been walking the whole perimeter of our CCF neighborhood, jogging, and going to the bus stops every morning for 5 years. Yes, some of the speeders live in the neighborhood, and we've followed them to know where they live and they make up a small percentage of our community, but at LEAST 60% come down the hill and proceed out of the neighborhood to another community. It is being used as a thoroughfare. We watch them. We take note of their car make and plates. We are doing anything and everything we can so that none of our children gets killed. We have had several near misses that could have been fatal.
Ed Rendell wrote:
the people speeding in the development are the residents of the development, its their neighbors
by the way, speed bumps are not the answer as they as very expensive to maintain especially in an area that requires snow plowing due to extra care and attention they require. private areas can have speed bumps because those places have private snow removal companies who do not have a massive amount of miles to maintain

Since: Mar 07

Bethlehem, PA

#8 Jul 17, 2009
Lehigh Valley Resident wrote:
Speed HUMPS as there called in Allentown followed by a Speed dip, sank in the roadway is a great way to slow cars and or trucks down

The bumps would make snow removal difficult, but a series of "dips" would work just fine.
Cedar Creek Farm Resident

South River, NJ

#9 Jul 17, 2009
By the way, in case anyone is wondering, the person "Ed Rendell" is not our Governor speaking on this comment thread...I have contacted their office and they assure me it is not him making comments here. They were grateful for the alert.
Ed Rendell wrote:
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Did you call the police after the incident? maybe if you would have the police would have increased patrols sooner.... they have 17+ square miles and 8000 homes to cover, if the Police do not know there is a problem they will concentrate on the areas that have the problems. The residents of the township need to help out the police occasionally they are not all knowing
Have a nice day

Bethlehem, PA

#10 Jul 17, 2009
Cedar Creek Farm Resident wrote:
By the way, in case anyone is wondering, the person "Ed Rendell" is not our Governor speaking on this comment thread...I have contacted their office and they assure me it is not him making comments here. They were grateful for the alert.
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You're kidding, right? You didn't actually call the Gov. office?
NoOneSpecial

Whitehall, PA

#11 Jul 17, 2009
Ed Rendell wrote:
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Did you call the police after the incident? maybe if you would have the police would have increased patrols sooner.... they have 17+ square miles and 8000 homes to cover, if the Police do not know there is a problem they will concentrate on the areas that have the problems. The residents of the township need to help out the police occasionally they are not all knowing
Yes we have spoken to the twsp police and they have stepped up however they cant be there 24/7. I know eventully they will see what is going on, I just hope its not at the expense of our kids.
NoOneSpecial

Whitehall, PA

#12 Jul 17, 2009
Cedar Creek Farm Resident wrote:
Exactly how is it that you know who the speeders are? I have been walking the whole perimeter of our CCF neighborhood, jogging, and going to the bus stops every morning for 5 years. Yes, some of the speeders live in the neighborhood, and we've followed them to know where they live and they make up a small percentage of our community, but at LEAST 60% come down the hill and proceed out of the neighborhood to another community. It is being used as a thoroughfare. We watch them. We take note of their car make and plates. We are doing anything and everything we can so that none of our children gets killed. We have had several near misses that could have been fatal.
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Its both, people who live in CCF and in Stonehenge and its people who are using it as a cut thru or people who are just visiting. You cant blame non residents. As I said earlier, I am a resident and I see other residents doing the same thing. I have watched them blow off stop signes and pull right into their driveways. I would love to say something to these individuals however the last time I voiced my concern to a neighor for allwoing their dog to relieve himself on my lawn I was told to F off and a huge fight evolved.
Quakertown resident

Quakertown, PA

#13 Jul 17, 2009
NoOneSpecial wrote:
Increasing the amount of stop signs are not going to solve this problem. I live in this development and I see people go right thru the stop signs on a daily basis. Yes I agree the twsp needs to do something, maybe speed bumps. My son was almost hit by an SUV driven by someone who lives in this development who did not stop at the stop sign on Schaller and Jervin.
I used to live in Parkland and I agree that speed is a problem in that development. However, I've got bad news for you regarding speed humps - they don't slow traffic as much as you're probably hoping they will.

Here in Quakertown along the full length of borough-owned Mill Street end to end we have a set of speed humps (not bumps, three stop signs, a double set of railroad tracks, AND a traffic light. Guess what? People just increase their speed between these points in some kind of attempt to make up the lost time. Homeowners living along any stretch of the road where the speed humps aren't placed will get even faster traffic like what I deal with.

Good luck. I hope it works better for you if SWT installs them there than it has here.
West End Resident

Allentown, PA

#14 Jul 17, 2009
Not surprised that the same person you had a a problem with over his dog, also drives like an inconsiderate slob. It's the modern mentality and attitude -'Hooray for me, to heck with you'. Is he from NJ or NY, too ...

The cops ought to sit there and ticket the ones who blow through the stop signs.

Otherwise, without radar - how are they going to prove 'speeding' well enough to have it stand up in court - Good luck with that.
Dee Dee Dee

Bethlehem, PA

#15 Jul 17, 2009
Lehigh Valley Resident wrote:
Speed HUMPS as there called in Allentown followed by a Speed dip, sank in the roadway is a great way to slow cars and or trucks down
It also keeps the low riders out. They will rip the coffee can off the exhaust pipe.
Alex

Torrance, CA

#16 Jul 17, 2009
I learned from a site called Evo Street Racers ( Http://www.EvoStreetRacers.com ) that in Canada should a person go a certain speed beyond the speed limit it can be considered street racing in addition to the penalty for speeding. Maybe we should have a law like Canada?
William

United States

#17 Jul 17, 2009
Speed bumps ARE the answer.
Snow plow drivers can slow down (like the speeders)when they encounter one.
Sound Reasoning

Whitehall, PA

#18 Jul 17, 2009
The Morning Call wrote:
The speed limit on Dylan Drive, where Segel lives, is posted at 25 miles per hour. Residents want police to enforce that limit, and also asked the supervisors to lower the speed limit on several other roads in the development -- including Creek Road, Emerson Lane, Grandview Avenue, Jervin Drive, Longfellow Street and Tennyson Drive -- from 35 to 25 miles per hour.

Speed limits are such a waste.

We have 25MPH limits in our South Whitehall development, and people still do 50+MPH (including the two police officers who live here).

Try doing 35MPH, and even the little old lady driving her AMC Pacer behind you, will give you the finger.
Sound Reasoning

Whitehall, PA

#19 Jul 17, 2009
NoOneSpecial wrote:
Increasing the amount of stop signs are not going to solve this problem.
Too bad, that's illegal.

A town can't install stop signs just to slow traffic down.
Becki

Allentown, PA

#20 Jul 17, 2009
I live in s.Whitehall on Whitehall ave near the corner of albright and cars speed up and down this road all the time. There are a lot of kids that ride their bikes and play around here. We need either lower speed limits , more stop signs or something. I think an electric speed strip like they put across from Kratzer elementary school may help slow the idiots down.
Liz

Philadelphia, PA

#21 Jul 17, 2009
My family has lived on Dylan Dr. for 22 years and I would not call this a problem. Calling it a "speed way" is a bit out there. I was once going 30MPH one morning and a woman started yelling at me to slow down, waving her arms and everything. If i was going 50, of course but come on...30, get a life. If you're worried about your kids, supervise and restrain them, don't leave me unattended. My children always knew never to play in streets. Put a stop sign in if you're that upset about this problem and take if form there. I think the article was a bit much...

Since: Mar 07

Allentown

#22 Jul 18, 2009
A speed limit is only a number posted on a sign. That doesn't mean people are actually gonna follow it.

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