Speakers at PPL hearing say plan to c...

Speakers at PPL hearing say plan to cut energy consumption isn'...

There are 22 comments on the The Morning Call story from Jul 31, 2009, titled Speakers at PPL hearing say plan to cut energy consumption isn'.... In it, The Morning Call reports that:

A plan proposed by PPL to reduce the energy consumption of its customers should include more options and not rely so heavily on compact fluorescent light bulbs.

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Sorry To Say

Allentown, PA

#1 Jul 31, 2009
The Electric Must be controlled by the Government where profits are not prioirty one. To be a supplier of necessary quality of life product ,it must be offered as cheap as possible and not geared to large salaries for top execs.
wicked

Macungie, PA

#2 Jul 31, 2009
Sorry To Say wrote:
The Electric Must be controlled by the Government where profits are not prioirty one. To be a supplier of necessary quality of life product ,it must be offered as cheap as possible and not geared to large salaries for top execs.
Oh please!! Name one program the govt. has run effeciently and effectively, where the taxpayer DOES NOT get hosed at the end of the day.
You have a problem with CEO's salaries, but you don't have a problem with the kushy packages those fat-cat politicians get??
zeta 24

King Of Prussia, PA

#3 Jul 31, 2009
The bill which adds 2% to all electric bills also mandates a smart meter to be installed by every customer with the cost being billed to the customer. The cost has not been determined because no one knows which smart meter will be chosen. The cost to an Atlantic power customer in New Jersey was $1000.00 2 years ago and he had no choice to have it installed by his electrician. Just for information The legislature's plan to eliminate manufacturing in Pennsylvania while reducing demand will not count towards the mandatory reduction in demand mandated in this bill. Send your thanks to Daylin Leach - State Senator - This bill is his baby.

“Cool Logic - Burning Passion”

Since: Feb 07

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#4 Jul 31, 2009
a fake "electical" plug...? At least it's a male one...

“Cool Logic - Burning Passion”

Since: Feb 07

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#5 Jul 31, 2009
Sorry To Say wrote:
The Electric Must be controlled by the Government where profits are not prioirty one. To be a supplier of necessary quality of life product ,it must be offered as cheap as possible and not geared to large salaries for top execs.
and all the liberal socialists said, "AMEN!" What a tool!
Once Again

Breinigsville, PA

#6 Jul 31, 2009
I have already purchased energy star appliancs. I use compact florescent bulbs. I upgraded our AC to a higher SEER. I did not recevie any rebates or assistance. So why do I have to pay for someone else to to become more energy efficient. It only makes sense that these efforts to conserve pay off in the long run. I am tired of supporting others.
Gary

Schnecksville, PA

#7 Jul 31, 2009
PPL had an off peak plan in the Lehigh Valley. This was called PPL's 4 star system.
What this did was to encourage homeowners to time their major power usage at time periods when demand was low.
Don't forget that the generators are running at the same speed weather or not the electricity (potential) is being used or not.
This shifted power usage to time periods when businesses weren't using it.
PPL is terminating all of these systems on Jan.1,2010.
This seems pretty stupid to me, but I'm not running the business.
I would think that if they were really interested in conservation they would want to keep it going.
As the American Indian would have said, "They speak with forked tongue".
Gary

Schnecksville, PA

#8 Jul 31, 2009
zeta 24 wrote:
The bill which adds 2% to all electric bills also mandates a smart meter to be installed by every customer with the cost being billed to the customer. The cost has not been determined because no one knows which smart meter will be chosen. The cost to an Atlantic power customer in New Jersey was $1000.00 2 years ago and he had no choice to have it installed by his electrician. Just for information The legislature's plan to eliminate manufacturing in Pennsylvania while reducing demand will not count towards the mandatory reduction in demand mandated in this bill. Send your thanks to Daylin Leach - State Senator - This bill is his baby.
Get the government involved and things really get Screwed up.
Wait until we have government run health care. Can you imagine these Bozo's determining whether or not you get a heart bypass?
bizarro world

Allentown, PA

#9 Jul 31, 2009
Let me get this straight: PPL will charge us a quarter-billion dollars to finance the energy conservation programs it's required to mandate... to encourage us to spend less on electricity.

Hmmm...
Love the plug

Schaumburg, IL

#10 Jul 31, 2009
I love that getup Stilp is wearing in the picture.

With the way the rates will be going up, pretty soon everyone is going to perceive their own plugs as being that large.

If I recall correctly, it was the State which founded PPL. Today though, if PPL were to be returned to the hands of the state government, if it's like anything else these days, the only people getting the majority of the power will not have done anything at all (like work for a living) in order to receive it.
Solar P

Blandon, PA

#11 Jul 31, 2009
I would love to get a solar power to use for hot water heater. You just have to make the stuff cheaper. It costs a fortune to do anything other than the light-bulb game.
tom payne

Lehighton, PA

#12 Jul 31, 2009
This isn't rocket science people. Your parents and grandparents knew how to conserve, turn out the lights when you leave the room, turn two of your four televisions off, hang laundry outside, and,(gasp) maybe even turn the A/C off and try living with fresh air flowing through the windows. Also get your candles ready because when the libs cap and tax goes into effect no one will be able to afford electric!!(or gas or propane)
zeta 24

King Of Prussia, PA

#13 Jul 31, 2009
Gary wrote:
<quoted text>Get the government involved and things really get Screwed up.
Wait until we have government run health care. Can you imagine these Bozo's determining whether or not you get a heart bypass?
Its already here again Daylin Leach's assisted suicide bill enables 2 state doctors to ask if you don't want to live with the pain or don't want to live the way you are and then they can kill you if you say yes. Thats a big part of the reduced cost of medicare for the state.
goon

Bethlehem, PA

#14 Aug 1, 2009
cutting energy consumption is not in PPL's corporate by-laws. There is, however, a bit in there that says "maximize profits".

This is their legal responsibility to their shareholders. That is what corporations do. Anything "green" conflicts with PPL's real purpose-to make as much money as it can.

PPL won't buy power from customers with solar panels because they won't allow net metering as other electric utility corporations will in Pennsylvania. Any idea to conserve energy is token at best for PPL. They want to keep the $'s coming in by burning dirty coal and build more nukes and rip up more of Pennsylvania's forests with powerlines to deliver power to out of state customers.

Perhaps some of you have seen the story about the Pocono raceway building a large array of solar cells to generate all of their own power? You can do it to! Plus, if PPL allowed for net metering, you could make them buy your excess power . Your meter would run BACKWARDS. After you hit the break even point you would make money if PPL corporation allowed for net metering.

They will never do it, because more people will see home solar electricity generation as an attractive proposition, and they will see PPL in a much less favorable light.
Daniel

Gilbertsville, PA

#15 Aug 1, 2009
We've already done all of these things a couple of years ago and more recently replaced our old washer with an energy star compliant washer after the old one finally gave out. All of the light bulbs were replaced and all other appliances are either energy star compliant or they use another energy source like gas for cooking. So...tell me, aside from going back to the stone age and using torches, ice blocks, and a well am I supposed to reduce my electricity consumption any further? P.S. these measures really have reduced our bill to an average of $75 to $80 in the summer and even less in the winter. I agree it is a conflict of interest since PPL sells electricity.
Gary

Schnecksville, PA

#16 Aug 1, 2009
bizarro world wrote:
Let me get this straight: PPL will charge us a quarter-billion dollars to finance the energy conservation programs it's required to mandate... to encourage us to spend less on electricity.
Hmmm...
People don't seem to realize that corporations costs, no matter what you call them, are passed down to the customer.
When people urge the government to mandate things they have to think about who's picking up the cost.
Democratic politicians especially are good at making voters think that the corporations will pick up the tab and that it wont cost them anything.
Gary

Schnecksville, PA

#17 Aug 1, 2009
goon wrote:
cutting energy consumption is not in PPL's corporate by-laws. There is, however, a bit in there that says "maximize profits".
This is their legal responsibility to their shareholders. That is what corporations do. Anything "green" conflicts with PPL's real purpose-to make as much money as it can.
PPL won't buy power from customers with solar panels because they won't allow net metering as other electric utility corporations will in Pennsylvania. Any idea to conserve energy is token at best for PPL. They want to keep the $'s coming in by burning dirty coal and build more nukes and rip up more of Pennsylvania's forests with powerlines to deliver power to out of state customers.
Perhaps some of you have seen the story about the Pocono raceway building a large array of solar cells to generate all of their own power? You can do it to! Plus, if PPL allowed for net metering, you could make them buy your excess power . Your meter would run BACKWARDS. After you hit the break even point you would make money if PPL corporation allowed for net metering.
They will never do it, because more people will see home solar electricity generation as an attractive proposition, and they will see PPL in a much less favorable light.
The stockholders want to realize a gain on their investment also. Profits do this for them. without it the company, and it's employees, couldn't exist.
GM a good case in point. Except for the large infusion of government money, they would be out of business.
PPL's biggest problem is that the government, through the EPA, is taking away their fuel source and mandating inexpensive alternatives.
If they had their way we'd all b e living in caves and burning firewood.
Correction, they'd probably ban firewood also.
Gary

Schnecksville, PA

#18 Aug 1, 2009
Sorry, Typo, I meant expensive alternatives, not inexpensive.
OHMAN

Reading, PA

#19 Aug 4, 2009
Solar P wrote:
I would love to get a solar power to use for hot water heater. You just have to make the stuff cheaper. It costs a fortune to do anything other than the light-bulb game.
well I am close to the solar industry and unfortunately there is some legislation out there that will surely derail the young solar industry in PA. This will occur as a result of an amendment to House Bill 80. This amendment is asking that the law be changed so that only licensed electricians be able to install every single component of a solar system. For those of us familiar with photovoltaic installation we know full well that the work involved only requires a licensed electrician for about 10% of the job. The rest of a solar install is labor intensive roof and excavating work depending on the system. The other role on the jobsite is filled by licensed and certified solar installers-most of which are not electricians.Today, the bulk of a system's cost is materials. This amendment will drive up costs tremendously for installers who will have no choice but to charge consumers/businesses more. This will slow the pace of solar adoption and probably drive most installers out of the state to greener pastures with more realistic laws.

Its a shame. For the first time in PA history there is an excellent rebate prorgam avaiable to homeowners and businesses. This rebate is making solar feasible to PA residents. When you tack on prevailing wage requirements for electricians versus laborers,skiled solar installers,roofers, and excavtors you blow the feasibility of solar out of the water.

In our opinion this ammendment is the quickest way to kill jobs, the solar industry in PA and create a monopoly for power companies and electrical contractor unions to do what few installs will be left in PA.

Do not support the Keller ammendment and ask that the work of solar installation be a fine balance between the states approved solar contractors ,licensed electricians and other skilled labor. This is how this industry has worked across the country and there is no reason to derail it. By the way, who is going to train all the electricians in the state to install solar? Most have never worked on a PV system and most of them do not want to climb on a 12 12 roof in the middle of summer installing racking. Any ideas on who will foot the bill for the thousands of electricians that will need to be trained on PV technology and installation?
OHMAN

Reading, PA

#20 Aug 4, 2009
Daniel wrote:
We've already done all of these things a couple of years ago and more recently replaced our old washer with an energy star compliant washer after the old one finally gave out. All of the light bulbs were replaced and all other appliances are either energy star compliant or they use another energy source like gas for cooking. So...tell me, aside from going back to the stone age and using torches, ice blocks, and a well am I supposed to reduce my electricity consumption any further? P.S. these measures really have reduced our bill to an average of $75 to $80 in the summer and even less in the winter. I agree it is a conflict of interest since PPL sells electricity.
are you using programmable thermostats? Did you ever consider insulation upgrades?(I've priced re-blowing my attic and found it to be a reasonable cost with a fast payback. Also, try a watt meter(about 30 bucks) Its a cool little device to track how many watts different devices are using around your house. A significant portion of a homes energy use can be attributed to phantom power use. Its all of the modern conveniences plugged in 24/7 that we dont think about. For example, computers, cell phone chargers, stereos and tvs in rarely used parts of the home. They are all plugged in and using power from the grid. It can be 10 to 15% of your annual bill.

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