Runners in and around Quakertown

Runners in and around Quakertown

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Driver

Broomall, PA

#1 Nov 6, 2013
Every day I drive my son and his friend to Strayer, traveling the length of Park Ave to Front St.

Every day I see idiot runners on the road running between parked cars and moving traffic when there are sidewalks available to run on.

I don't get it? Why put yourself at risk? Are they that stupid, or just trying to get noticed?

On Monday morning, I'm coming back from the drop off and I'm on Front St, waiting to make my left turn on Park Ave. This guy I had seen on the way over running on the roadway was coming down Front St from the direction of Broad and proceeded to round the corner onto Park Ave when he just ran out in the middle of the road and dashed between two cars sitting at the light and continued to run between those cars and the parked cars!

http://www.pacommutes.com/walking/safety-and-...

Pedestrian Laws

Pedestrian laws help ensure the safety of everyone on the road. Below is an overview of laws that apply to pedestrians in Pennsylvania.

You must yield to motorists:

If youíre not within a crosswalk at an intersection or marked crosswalk.
When crossing a roadway where there is a pedestrian tunnel or overhead crossing available.
When walking along the side of a roadway.

Using sidewalks:

Where a sidewalk is available and can be used, it is unlawful to walk along the roadway.
Where a sidewalk is not available, you must stay on the shoulder as far from the edge of the road as possible.
Where there is no sidewalk or shoulder, you must walk as near as possible to the outside edge of the roadway. If itís a two-way road, you can only walk on the left side.

Why do these morons insist on running of the effing streets when there are sidewalks????
Retreiver

Perkasie, PA

#2 Nov 6, 2013
Driver wrote:
Every day I drive my son and his friend to Strayer, traveling the length of Park Ave to Front St.
Every day I see idiot runners on the road running between parked cars and moving traffic when there are sidewalks available to run on.
I don't get it? Why put yourself at risk? Are they that stupid, or just trying to get noticed?
On Monday morning, I'm coming back from the drop off and I'm on Front St, waiting to make my left turn on Park Ave. This guy I had seen on the way over running on the roadway was coming down Front St from the direction of Broad and proceeded to round the corner onto Park Ave when he just ran out in the middle of the road and dashed between two cars sitting at the light and continued to run between those cars and the parked cars!
http://www.pacommutes.com/walking/safety-and-...
Pedestrian Laws
Pedestrian laws help ensure the safety of everyone on the road. Below is an overview of laws that apply to pedestrians in Pennsylvania.
You must yield to motorists:
If youíre not within a crosswalk at an intersection or marked crosswalk.
When crossing a roadway where there is a pedestrian tunnel or overhead crossing available.
When walking along the side of a roadway.
Using sidewalks:
Where a sidewalk is available and can be used, it is unlawful to walk along the roadway.
Where a sidewalk is not available, you must stay on the shoulder as far from the edge of the road as possible.
Where there is no sidewalk or shoulder, you must walk as near as possible to the outside edge of the roadway. If itís a two-way road, you can only walk on the left side.
Why do these morons insist on running of the effing streets when there are sidewalks????
When running, concrete is a lot harder on the body than macadam.
Scooper

Arlington, VA

#3 Nov 6, 2013
Couldn't agree more. Bikes on the backroads are annoying, but I get that there is no other option and most generally stay as far to the side as they can, if for nothing else than their own safety. It drives me nuts though with people who think pedestrians trump all. I think in their minds they always have the right of way, and if they get hit, they'll just get a juicy lawsuit. There are these 2 older ladies who always walk around the Milford Square Pike area on their lunch breaks. They always walk side-by-side in the middle of the road as they travel along the backroads with blind bends and what not. Never move over no matter what. I myself have almost hit them and I've seen several cars almost hit them or run off the road to avoid them. I'd love to yell at them or send a letter to them at their workplace but they obviously just don't care since they're still doing it.

My other big gripe are people who flick their cigarette butts out of their cars, usually still lit. If they're smoking in the car, 99% chance they'll do it. Just look at the medians on 309 at the stop lights, especially the left hand turn lanes at 309/313/663. Can't even see the pavement there are so many. What makes them think it's not littering? It's actually one of the worst things to litter. Not only for fire risks but when it rains all of the chemicals leech out like tea and end up in the water supply, streams and lakes. The local cops usually have nothing better to do. They should start enforcing litter laws, put up a few signs, and charge a few people with attempted arson. That would end it prettyqquickly.
Joe

United States

#4 Nov 6, 2013
Scooper wrote:
Couldn't agree more. Bikes on the backroads are annoying, but I get that there is no other option and most generally stay as far to the side as they can, if for nothing else than their own safety. It drives me nuts though with people who think pedestrians trump all. I think in their minds they always have the right of way, and if they get hit, they'll just get a juicy lawsuit. There are these 2 older ladies who always walk around the Milford Square Pike area on their lunch breaks. They always walk side-by-side in the middle of the road as they travel along the backroads with blind bends and what not. Never move over no matter what. I myself have almost hit them and I've seen several cars almost hit them or run off the road to avoid them. I'd love to yell at them or send a letter to them at their workplace but they obviously just don't care since they're still doing it.

My other big gripe are people who flick their cigarette butts out of their cars, usually still lit. If they're smoking in the car, 99% chance they'll do it. Just look at the medians on 309 at the stop lights, especially the left hand turn lanes at 309/313/663. Can't even see the pavement there are so many. What makes them think it's not littering? It's actually one of the worst things to litter. Not only for fire risks but when it rains all of the chemicals leech out like tea and end up in the water supply, streams and lakes. The local cops usually have nothing better to do. They should start enforcing litter laws, put up a few signs, and charge a few people with attempted arson. That would end it prettyqquickly.
State law should mandate that every secondary road be reflected and have a bike lane.
Richard

Horsham, PA

#5 Nov 6, 2013
Driver wrote:
Every day I drive my son and his friend to Strayer, traveling the length of Park Ave to Front St.
Every day I see idiot runners on the road running between parked cars and moving traffic when there are sidewalks available to run on.
I don't get it? Why put yourself at risk? Are they that stupid, or just trying to get noticed?
On Monday morning, I'm coming back from the drop off and I'm on Front St, waiting to make my left turn on Park Ave. This guy I had seen on the way over running on the roadway was coming down Front St from the direction of Broad and proceeded to round the corner onto Park Ave when he just ran out in the middle of the road and dashed between two cars sitting at the light and continued to run between those cars and the parked cars!
http://www.pacommutes.com/walking/safety-and-...
Pedestrian Laws
Pedestrian laws help ensure the safety of everyone on the road. Below is an overview of laws that apply to pedestrians in Pennsylvania.
You must yield to motorists:
If youíre not within a crosswalk at an intersection or marked crosswalk.
When crossing a roadway where there is a pedestrian tunnel or overhead crossing available.
When walking along the side of a roadway.
Using sidewalks:
Where a sidewalk is available and can be used, it is unlawful to walk along the roadway.
Where a sidewalk is not available, you must stay on the shoulder as far from the edge of the road as possible.
Where there is no sidewalk or shoulder, you must walk as near as possible to the outside edge of the roadway. If itís a two-way road, you can only walk on the left side.
Why do these morons insist on running of the effing streets when there are sidewalks????
I guess you'll have to pay more attention to your driving with all of these obvious idiots around. That shouldn't be hard. You're a perfect driver, right?

Why don't you publish your license plate number so we can report all of the stupid things you do when you drive and then link the appropriate laws?
Damned if you do

Quakertown, PA

#6 Nov 6, 2013
Ok - so lets get this straight. People bitch about Quakertown residents of being fat/stupid/hicks, etc...

So now we have people bitching about Quakertown residents jogging, being healthy.

Will you people make up my mind already?? lol
Driving

Broomall, PA

#7 Nov 6, 2013
Damned if you do wrote:
Ok - so lets get this straight. People bitch about Quakertown residents of being fat/stupid/hicks, etc...
So now we have people bitching about Quakertown residents jogging, being healthy.
Will you people make up my mind already?? lol
I'm not complaining about someone wanting to run for fitness; that's great.

I'm complaining about runners who do in the middle of the street and between traffic and parked cars when there is a sidewalk 4 feet away from them! THEY are breaking the law and putting themselves in danger a creating the possibility for an accident if a driver has to swerve out of their way to avoid a runner who should be on the sidewalk!

It's common sense, and those of you complaining about me must not have any!
Driving

Broomall, PA

#8 Nov 6, 2013
Richard wrote:
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I guess you'll have to pay more attention to your driving with all of these obvious idiots around. That shouldn't be hard. You're a perfect driver, right?
Why don't you publish your license plate number so we can report all of the stupid things you do when you drive and then link the appropriate laws?
So, it was fine for this guy to just cut across Park Ave between cars?

Go and eat your red herring somewhere else.
Driving

Broomall, PA

#9 Nov 6, 2013
Joe wrote:
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State law should mandate that every secondary road be reflected and have a bike lane.
I'm not talking about back roads; it was Park Ave...with sidewalks!
Driving

Broomall, PA

#10 Nov 6, 2013
Retreiver wrote:
<quoted text>When running, concrete is a lot harder on the body than macadam.
When running in the street, steel is harder than macadam.

Just saying.
funny

Perkasie, PA

#12 Nov 6, 2013
Driving wrote:
I'm not complaining about someone wanting to run for fitness; that's great.

I'm complaining about runners who do in the middle of the street and between traffic and parked cars when there is a sidewalk 4 feet away from them! THEY are breaking the law and putting themselves in danger a creating the possibility for an accident if a driver has to swerve out of their way to avoid a runner who should be on the sidewalk!

It's common sense, and those of you complaining about me must not have any!
How are they breaking the law?
Driving

Broomall, PA

#13 Nov 6, 2013
funny wrote:
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How are they breaking the law?
Read my first post where it states that it's unlawful to walk(run) on the road when a sidewalk is available.
Inquiring Mind

Portland, OR

#14 Nov 6, 2013
Joe wrote:
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State law should mandate that every secondary road be reflected and have a bike lane.
And that you help build it or pay for it. You always have such great ideas for spending other people's money.
bethwhistler

Broomall, PA

#15 Nov 6, 2013
Driver wrote:
Every day I drive my son and his friend to Strayer, traveling the length of Park Ave to Front St.
Every day I see idiot runners on the road running between parked cars and moving traffic when there are sidewalks available to run on.
I don't get it? Why put yourself at risk? Are they that stupid, or just trying to get noticed?
On Monday morning, I'm coming back from the drop off and I'm on Front St, waiting to make my left turn on Park Ave. This guy I had seen on the way over running on the roadway was coming down Front St from the direction of Broad and proceeded to round the corner onto Park Ave when he just ran out in the middle of the road and dashed between two cars sitting at the light and continued to run between those cars and the parked cars!
http://www.pacommutes.com/walking/safety-and-...
Pedestrian Laws
Pedestrian laws help ensure the safety of everyone on the road. Below is an overview of laws that apply to pedestrians in Pennsylvania.
You must yield to motorists:
If youíre not within a crosswalk at an intersection or marked crosswalk.
When crossing a roadway where there is a pedestrian tunnel or overhead crossing available.
When walking along the side of a roadway.
Using sidewalks:
Where a sidewalk is available and can be used, it is unlawful to walk along the roadway.
Where a sidewalk is not available, you must stay on the shoulder as far from the edge of the road as possible.
Where there is no sidewalk or shoulder, you must walk as near as possible to the outside edge of the roadway. If itís a two-way road, you can only walk on the left side.
Why do these morons insist on running of the effing streets when there are sidewalks????
The sidewalks in Qtown are dangerous - uneven, broken, missing. Take a stroll around town - you don't have to go far - and you will see what I mean.
bethwhistler

Broomall, PA

#16 Nov 6, 2013
Driving wrote:
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I'm not complaining about someone wanting to run for fitness; that's great.
I'm complaining about runners who do in the middle of the street and between traffic and parked cars when there is a sidewalk 4 feet away from them! THEY are breaking the law and putting themselves in danger a creating the possibility for an accident if a driver has to swerve out of their way to avoid a runner who should be on the sidewalk!
It's common sense, and those of you complaining about me must not have any!
I have found it is most sensible to walk/run in the evening after the bulk of the rush-hour traffic has died down. There's always the car exhaust/pollution factor also. When you're running or cardio-walking, you're breathing in more deeply - thus intake of yucky air. Unfortunately, evenings don't work for everybody.
neighbor

Perkasie, PA

#17 Nov 7, 2013
Just came back from the Giant via Station Rd. past the QMart and there was a jogger in the oncoming lane of traffic. The cars in that lane had to partially come over into my lane. Very dangerous. Here's an idea...Why not jog in the QMart parking lot. No one is there!
Joe

United States

#18 Nov 7, 2013
Inquiring Mind wrote:
<quoted text>And that you help build it or pay for it. You always have such great ideas for spending other people's money.
It's for the public good. We should give people every opportunity to live a healthy lifestyle. In the end we will save healthcare money.
bethwhistler

Broomall, PA

#19 Nov 7, 2013
bethwhistler wrote:
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The sidewalks in Qtown are dangerous - uneven, broken, missing. Take a stroll around town - you don't have to go far - and you will see what I mean.
To amend my statement above, I didn't mean to imply that the sidewalks are unsafe only in Quakertown. Most towns in the suburbs have uneven and broken sidewalks, mostly caused by tree roots pushing up the slabs. If you've ever caught your foot on the edge of a slab and wiped out face down, you can understand why runners and walkers might prefer the street.

The best sidewalks are in the cities where they're wide enough for heavy pedestrian traffic.
The Jogger

Newtown Square, PA

#20 Nov 8, 2013
As a jogger ,I can tell you its much softer than sidewalk .It has to be to give and take with the weather. I am shocked that no one knows these facts .Why not google it instead of making yourselves look dumb.
Driving wrote:
<quoted text>When running in the street, steel is harder than macadam.
Just saying.
Driving

Broomall, PA

#21 Nov 10, 2013
bethwhistler wrote:
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The sidewalks in Qtown are dangerous - uneven, broken, missing. Take a stroll around town - you don't have to go far - and you will see what I mean.
Beth. This is Park Ave. I'm talking about. Those sidewalks are fine. I've seen some shoddy ones on Tohickon Ave, but not on Park.

I think tripping over uneven sidewalk is less dangerous than being hit by a moving vehicle doing 25 - 35mph, don't you?

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