Four Americans are dead American people are being lied to
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#1 Oct 30, 2012
Four Americans are dead and the American people are being lied to as to how and why they got that way.
Either the President is lying - and needs to be impeached, or he’s NOT lying—and needs to be impeached—because he DIDN’T know what was happening!
Repeat: Four Americans are DEAD. And as much as it pains me to say it—it doesn’t look as if our government made a genuine effort to save them.
I have watched, listened, and read as much as we have been allowed to know—plus—information gleaned by non-mainstream media sources, and I have concluded there is a major cover-up at the top levels of the US government over the incident in Benghazi.
Now, let me be clear: I am not an investigative reporter. That is not what I do. I am a commentator—an opinion writer ... nothing more. I have deliberately “hung back” on any in-depth comments on the Benghazi affair simply because there always seemed to me to be more THERE there. In other words, it was obvious, at least to me, that we were only getting drips and drabs of what really happened and, I felt (and still do) that we have been told nothing of WHY it happened. But, dear reader, even Helen Keller could see there is a major cover-up surrounding the incident in Benghazi!
That CIA “safe-house” has troubled me from the very beginning of this horrible story. What was the CIA doing there? There was no embassy in Benghazi. In fact, the building attacked was not even a consulate. If anything, it was a “mission.” Had it been an embassy, I’d not question a CIA presence. They are practically a part of the furniture in any US Embassy. But, as I said, this was NOT an embassy.
Remember too, the last person our ambassador met with the evening of the attack was a Turkish diplomat. What was a Turkish diplomat doing in Benghazi, Libya, meeting with Ambassador Stevens at an unprotected site. Why not meet in the embassy in Tripoli?
It now seems that the ex-SEALS were not attached to the consulate, but were assigned to the CIA “safe-house.” They (laudably) went against orders and made a rescue attempt of the US officials and staff at the consulate—and lost their lives in the attempt.
There is now a fog of misinformation spewed up and out by the Obama Administration in what—in my opinion—is an attempt to cover-up an on-going scheme/operation to smuggle weapons into Syria through Turkey.
A few weeks ago, there was a report that Libyan militia members had been ordered to turn-in the weapons that had been supplied them in their struggle to overthrow Qaddafi. That report confirmed that many of those weapons had been turned in. Where did those weapons go? Perhaps, to the Syrian rebels?
It has been suspected for some time now that the US has been supplying small arms to the rebels in Syria for a while—even though the Obama Administration denies it.
It is the kind of operation the CIA would be up-to-their-necks in and it would explain their presence on the ground in Libya in a safe-house a mile away from the consulate/mission.
For the sake of argument, suppose the guns gathered from the Libyan militia were being covertly sent to Turkey and then smuggled across the Turkey/Syrian border to the Syrian rebels.
I continue to cycle back to the question—why was the Ambassador THERE , alone,
#2 Oct 30, 2012
without a security detail, at that particular time, meeting with a high Turkish diplomat. Remember, this was on September 11th. If there was going to be an attack by terrorists—September 11th would be the day for it.
Now, I’m just hypothesizing here. I have no idea, at this point, what was really going on. But, I have confidence in my opinion that there was a covert operation underway—one so black that sacrificing the lives of four Americans was deemed “worth it” by our leaders in Washington.
For whatever reason, the Obama Administration has chosen to tell the world a bald-faced lie about what happened in Benghazi.
So politicians lie, right? Yeah, they do. But this time—four Americans are dead and the country wants to know why that happened and why the Obama Administration chose to lie to us about it.
It is clear now, that all the warnings from the political right about the penchant of this President and his administration for lies was absolutely correct. If they are lying about the “Incident in Benghazi,” what else are they lying about?
Americans have a week to decide if they trust Obama enough to vote for him to lead the country for another four years. It is clear the Mainstream Media is NOT going to cover this story. They are NOT going to investigate what happened for fear that it will drive down support for Obama at the polls. They seem to have taken the attitude: the truth, the welfare of the country, be damned. Getting their man, Obama, reelected is the most important thing, bar none.
Look. The cover-up of “Benghazigate” is far more important that Watergate ever was!
We need a “Congressional Investigation” of the incident at Benghazi and we need it post haste! I understand there is no way that is possible before election day, but—if ever an incident deserved investigating by the Congress, this horrible event in Benghazi is it. It is looking more and more as if grounds for impeachment proceedings are present.
Yes, if only Obama was a Republican, there would be no need for commentators to beg the Congress to investigate—or—for commentators to opine at the reluctance of the MsM to investigate.
It is what it is.
The Mainstream Media in America is an organ of the political left—as is President Obama. There is simply no way we are going to get anything approaching impartial reporting or a REAL investigation of Benghazigate from the MsM.
It behooves every voter to weigh what little we know about Benghazigate and decide if we want to have Obama continue to lead this country after January 20th, 2013.
For me, it is not just a matter of trust, it is a matter of honor—NATIONAL HONOR.
America deserves better than we have gotten, or, are likely to get from Obama.
As you enter the voting booth ask yourself, what else has Obama lied to you about. What else is Obama lying to you about today? Then for the sake of our country—do what’s right.
#3 Oct 30, 2012
White House Engaged in Benghazi Cover-Up
Republican Indiana Senate candidate Richard Mourdock is renewing his call for a full investigation into the terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya, after suggesting that the Obama administration is engaged in a cover-up.
The Obama administration is still investigating the September attack in Benghazi, which resulted in the death of a U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other foreign service members. A suspect has been detained and is being questioned in Tunisia, but Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has asked for patience as a board review continues to unfold.
Republican leaders and candidates have pounced on the issue, however, and questioned whether the president could have provided more help ahead of the attack. Other critics point to a series of e-mails suggesting the White House was made aware of the details of the attacks that linked the assault to terror groups instead of a controversial YouTube video.
In a telephone interview with WFPL a week before Election Day, Mourdock suggests that the Democratic-controlled Senate is sitting on the investigation until after the election, and alleges the White House is intentionally looking the other way.
"This is a matter of the vital security interest of the United States. We’ve had four Americans, including a United States ambassador assassinated," Mourdock said. "But still we don’t know what the story is because obviously the White House is sitting on a cover-up."
Mourdock said the new information about the attack is troubling, and he is disappointed in the silence of Rep. Joe Donnelly, his Democratic opponent for the senate seat.
"This is a great time for Joe Donnelly to show some bipartisanship and join me as a Republican to call for his party that runs the U.S. Senate to have these hearings and have the investigation. And if Congressman Donnelly wont’ buck his party leadership before an election he’ll certainly never do it afterwards," Mourdock said.
Mourdock is calling for an immediate probe by the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee to delve into requests made by the consulate for additional security.
The House Oversight Committee led by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Ca., has already launched a probe into the attack, seeking more information from the Obama administration to explain its security decisions. Last week, sources told Fox News that a request for military back-up was "denied by the CIA chain of command", but the agency has said that report is false.
President Obama has rebuffed suggestions of deliberately hiding information from the public, and said in a recent interview that he takes offense to any suggestion that his administration is trying to do so.
#4 Oct 30, 2012
America deserves better then this, at least the ones of us who still care.
#5 Oct 30, 2012
I have made my mind up a while back about Obama. He has become everything he spoke against in his first election. I made the mistake the first time I voted for him, I wont make that same mistake twice
#6 Oct 30, 2012
Now the pentagon has released a statement saying no additional help was asked for in benghazi -----totally refuting a fabricated story Faux News has been broadcasting saying help was denied.
Now I guess the next step is for right wingers to claim the pentagon is in on the "conspiracy" too.
Don't you right wingers ever get tired of having every house of cards you construct be kicked down by FACTS.
#7 Oct 30, 2012
Don't believe this!
Believe this:http://latimesblogs.latim es.com/world_now/2012/10/libya -consulate-attack-leon-panetta -military.html
#8 Oct 30, 2012
It is I, your arch-nemesis again, TB.
Another clueless post that reeks of nearly infinite stupidness.
You surprise even me, stooping to try to defend the inexcusable failure of this piece of work in the White House in sending reinforcements to Benghazi.
This proves you will stop at nothing to try and prop up this man-child in the empty suit.
Your uppance will come on 11/6/12, and our deliverance from evil will come on 1/20/13, a day that will be celebrated for years to come.
Now go crawl back under your rock, ouch, bladesmith, or whatever.
#9 Oct 30, 2012
Pure trash has spoken
#11 Oct 30, 2012
Sad fact you believe your healthcare is in jeopardy if Obama is replaced . Sad truth it’s not the tax payers obligation to pay for health care for those who screw up and become HIV positive. Know what I mean teddy ? Haters all
#12 Oct 30, 2012
Pentagon has released nothing. Shows the peace of Sh you really are
#13 Oct 30, 2012
When you lie for political reasons that’s wrong! When your lie is concerning a good man beaten, tortured, then murdered the way our ambassador was that’s as low as you can get! What if that happened to a loved one of family member of your’s ? Someone like you is filled with hate.
You are a sick person and I’m talking about your STD’s you are sick in the head.
#14 Oct 31, 2012
Benghazi Coverup Much Worse Than "Third-rate Burglary"
The ride on the Obama bus gets bumpier as more bodies are thrown under it.
The latest to go thumpity thump are journalists who trumpeted the administration's excuse that faulty intelligence is why the president said for so long the attack on our consulate in Benghazi was a "spontaneous" protest over a Youtube video.
The journalists went under the bus because the Foreign Service and career intelligence officers the administration tried to scapegoat refused to go there. They've leaked emails that reveal the White House was informed while it was still going on that the attack was the work of terrorists affiliated with al-Qaida.
To put this in the context of the Mother of All Scandals, these emails are the equivalent of a transcript of what was on the 181/2 minutes of the secret White House tapes President Nixon's secretary erased.
"What did the president know, and when did he know it?" Sen. Howard Baker, R-Tenn, asked during the Watergate hearings. The answer in the leaked emails is that the president knew everything, all along.
They were sent by the Regional Security Officer in Libya to the State Department in Washington, the White House Situation Room, the Pentagon, the FBI and thedirector of National Intelligence.
The first said the consulate was being attacked by "about 20" armed men.
The third, sent two hours later, reported that Ansar al Sharia, an Islamist militia, was claiming credit for the attack.
A fourth, sent at 11:57 p.m. EDT, described a mortar attack on the consulate annex, where the Americans were killed.
About 300 watch officers at the NSC, State, Defense, the FBI and other agencies would have read these emails as soon as they were received, and informed their superiors right away. This was a crisis. Men armed with mortars, machineguns and rocket-propelled grenades were attacking a U.S. consulate. The ambassador was missing. The secretary of state, the DNI and the president would have been briefed within hours.
When the "three a.m. phone call" came (at 6:07 p.m. EDT), the president ignored it. The day after learning Ambassador Stevens had been murdered and sensitive intelligence documents were missing, he jetted off to a fundraiser in Las Vegas.
And for nearly two weeks afterward, Mr. Obama and his senior aides blamed the attack on the Youtube video -- even though they knew that wasn't true.
His interview with Steve Kroft of 60 Minutes, taped the day after the attack, indicates that Mr. Obama has been lying from the get-go.
"My suspicion is, is that there are folks involved in [the attack on the consulate] who were looking to target Americans from the start," the president told Mr. Kroft.
The fact that CBS cut this from the broadcast -- airing instead Mr. Obama's attack on Mitt Romney for criticizing his Middle East policy -- indicates why the White House remains confident the "mainstream" media will continue to downplay the scandal.
This cover-up, like that in Watergate, goes right to the top. What's being covered up is much worse than a "third rate burglary." Why was security so lax? Why were the ambassador's pleas for more turned down? Why did the president lie? Americans have a right to know. Few in the media have tried to find out
#15 Oct 31, 2012
Appeals to their integrity are unlikely to get "mainstream" journalists to do their jobs, since they have so little of it. Self preservation may. The leaked emails expose journalists who touted the administration's story as gullible chumps, corrupt shills, or both.
Spooks and diplomats are angry at the attempt to make them scapegoats; furious that the president didn't lift a finger to help their comrades in the consulate during the seven-hour siege. More leaks may be on the way. If they fail to follow up, journalists could lose more credibility than the president. They haven't much credibility left to lose.
#16 Oct 31, 2012
SILENT NO MORE: NAVY SEALS FURIOUS WITH OBAMA
"The SEALs removed one threat to America, now it's time for the voters to remove the other." - Retired Navy SEAL Brad Nagel
Veterans for a Strong America has filmed a shocking interview with Navy SEALs who tell the TRUTH about the Obama Administration and the incredible danger it poses to America.
These guys know the facts. They were silenced by their service. But they refuse to remain quiet any longer. The stakes are simply too high
Obama's love affair with the Muslim Brotherhood poses a clear and present danger to America, but worst of all are the lies and failure to act, especially in Benghazi, that got my buddies KILLED," says Brad Nagel, 20 year Navy veteran and former SEAL.
Newly released emails indicate that the Obama White House KNEW WITHIN 30 MINUTES of the initial uprising that the American Embassy in Benghazi was under full terrorist attack. An American drone reportedly sent the State Department situation room real time footage of the jihadist assault. As State Department officials watched the bloody, clearly pre-planned and well organized attack unfold; our Commander in Chief refused to take action. It has been further reported that instead of staying in the situation room, the President retired to his quarters for an early bed time, leaving horrified State Department personnel alone with the live feed horrors from Benghazi.
Of the four killed during that 7 hour battle, 2 of the people died in the final hour. Ty Woods, a former SEAL teammate of Nagel's was one of the last to die. "Ty ran his weapon dry and killed 50 jihadists before he was taken down. If this Administration had used the intel they had and sent help, my friend might still be alive" said Nagel.
Other SEALs are just as furious with Obama.
"If Obama sent Ambassador Stephens to a death sentence mission in Benghazi; what will he be willing to do to the American people to appease what appear to be deep Muslim Brotherhood ties?" - asked former Navy SEAL Benjamin Smith.
Brad Nagel, Benjamin Smith and a host of other SEALs have come forward to speak out in a serious of shocking and hard hitting commercials we are producing at Veterans for a Strong America.
We are simply a bunch of prior service and retired military guys who are afraid for our country. We are not wealthy. Many of us struggle just to get by. We simply do not have the funds to get this video out.
We were silenced during our years in the service. But the oath we took to protect and defend the Constitution DEMANDS that we speak out now, to protect America.
#17 Oct 31, 2012
Thank God for our Seals. I know they will bring justice to those responsible. We have their backs here on the home front
#18 Oct 31, 2012
Again nothing to disprove what I posted just more personal attacks. Again I ask is the Pentagon in on the "conspiracy" with Obama when they say no help was asked for just as Obama has said? Will anyone address this or just more boring personal attacks on me? It speaks volumes when the issue isn't addressed and the poster is just called names.ho-hum. Yep I'm a poopy head or homo or whatever else you can call me. Now answer the question or shut up.
#19 Oct 31, 2012
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