Since: Oct 12

Baxter, TN

#23 Dec 2, 2012
It makes no sense to compare abortion to miscarriage....abortion is knowing and willingly killing a fetus....Miscarriage generally happens when someone either doesn't know they are pregnant or their body couldnt handle it and did away with it. An accident is simply that....an accident, not intentionally aborting a child.
her choice her business

UK

#24 Dec 2, 2012
No big deal and nothing to do with anyone else. Her biggest mistake was telling anyone abt it.
Just Saying

Crossville, TN

#25 Dec 2, 2012
workingout wrote:
It makes no sense to compare abortion to miscarriage....abortion is knowing and willingly killing a fetus....Miscarriage generally happens when someone either doesn't know they are pregnant or their body couldnt handle it and did away with it. An accident is simply that....an accident, not intentionally aborting a child.
Lawmakers have already tried to pass laws defining miscarriage is murder so it absolutely makes sense to compare the two. In both cases, a fetus is being killed. In real life, people go to prison for accidentally killing people all the freaking time so what's stopping people from going a step further in fetal rights by legally considering miscarriages as homicide or manslaughter?

Is it a person or is it not? It makes no sense to consider a fetus human only in cases where it has been intentionally killed and non-human when it is killed accidentally and incriminating people for spontaneous abortion is utterly asinine.

DeDominicis

“John Averitt is a molester.”

Since: Nov 08

Cookeville

#26 Dec 3, 2012
Just Saying wrote:
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Lawmakers have already tried to pass laws defining miscarriage is murder so it absolutely makes sense to compare the two. In both cases, a fetus is being killed. In real life, people go to prison for accidentally killing people all the freaking time so what's stopping people from going a step further in fetal rights by legally considering miscarriages as homicide or manslaughter?
Is it a person or is it not? It makes no sense to consider a fetus human only in cases where it has been intentionally killed and non-human when it is killed accidentally and incriminating people for spontaneous abortion is utterly asinine.
If you have a miscarriage and continue to try to give birth you're a murderer.
Wtfh

Crossville, TN

#27 Dec 3, 2012
DeDominicis wrote:
<quoted text>If you have a miscarriage and continue to try to give birth you're a murderer.
.....That doesn't even BEGIN to make sense.
YURADUMASS

Livingston, TN

#28 Dec 3, 2012
URANIDIOT wrote:
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Only people can be murdered, and zygotes/fetuses do not meet the internationally accepted criteria for personhood. Your opinion is that that....an opinion, not a fact or a state of law.
How is it that if someone kills/murders a pregnant woman that they can be charged with murder of the baby and the mother if what you say is true. You're not only a dumass but a demon as well
Caprisun

Morristown, TN

#29 Dec 3, 2012
That poor, I'm going through the same thing.. I'm on my sixth abortion. I actually like the feeling...

DeDominicis

“John Averitt is a molester.”

Since: Nov 08

Cookeville

#30 Dec 4, 2012
Abortion is first degree murder on a person who cant secide what's right or wrong yet.
her choice her business

UK

#31 Dec 8, 2012
DeDominicis wrote:
Abortion is first degree murder on a person who cant secide what's right or wrong yet.
Have you ever cosidered those who are mentally impaired and sentenced to death?
Spp

Cookeville, TN

#32 Dec 8, 2012
They should have this Psycho locked up in a mental intuition where she wouldn’t need abortions and stop her from spreading STDs to other men.. problem solved

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#33 Dec 8, 2012
thinkbeforeyoutalk wrote:
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If abortion is murder then so is miscarriage via traumatic event (auto accident, falling down the stairs, engaging in sports when you were unaware of being pregnant)
MORON..... Murder by definition "The premeditated killing of one human being by another.

So how is an auto ACCIDENT premeditated??? How is FALLING DOWN THE STAIRS premeditated?? How is engaging in sports when you were unaware of being pregnant PREMEDITATED?? You my dear are an imbecile!

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#34 Dec 8, 2012
Just Saying wrote:
<quoted text>
Lawmakers have already tried to pass laws defining miscarriage is murder so it absolutely makes sense to compare the two. In both cases, a fetus is being killed. In real life, people go to prison for accidentally killing people all the freaking time so what's stopping people from going a step further in fetal rights by legally considering miscarriages as homicide or manslaughter?
Is it a person or is it not? It makes no sense to consider a fetus human only in cases where it has been intentionally killed and non-human when it is killed accidentally and incriminating people for spontaneous abortion is utterly asinine.
The Tennessee House last week voted 80-18 to make miscarriage — or the killing of any fertilized egg — murder. Last night, the Tennessee Senate passed by a 28-2 margin a companion version of the bill. The bill specifically includes all embryos “at any state of gestation in utero.” Tennessee’s Republican Governor Bill Haslam has not indicated if he will sign the bill.

To be clear, this bill goes further than covering, say, a violent attacker harming an expectant mother who then, unfortunately, miscarries. This bill, House Bill 3517 and the Senate’s companion, makes anyone’s actions that presumably cause a miscarriage murder. Opponents of the bill question how law enforcement would actually enforce this law or determine if someone’s action was a direct cause of a miscarriage.

What that means is If you attack someone who is pregnant, and it causes them to miscarry, that is MURDER. Not oh I fell down the stairs or got into an auto accident and lost my baby means i Murdered it. You are an idiot!!!!!!!!!!

In most cases, when you body spontaneously miscarries, it means there is something wrong internally with YOU or the BABY and your body rejected it. Saying that constitutes murder is like saying If you are diagnosed with cancer and refuse treatment, you should be tried with Attempted Murder??????
jesus freaking christ

Crossville, TN

#35 Dec 8, 2012
um yeah1212 wrote:
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MORON..... Murder by definition "The premeditated killing of one human being by another.
So how is an auto ACCIDENT premeditated??? How is FALLING DOWN THE STAIRS premeditated?? How is engaging in sports when you were unaware of being pregnant PREMEDITATED?? You my dear are an imbecile!
Please for the love of GOD look up what involuntary manslaughter is.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#36 Dec 8, 2012
Involuntary manslaughter is not classified as murder.

Although both Involuntary Manslaughter and murder result in the premature termination of another’s life, the notion and presence of intent is the primary differentiation between the two illegal and deadly actions.

Involuntary Manslaughter is classified through the presence of a LACK OF INTENT within the event of a death suffered by a victim. Manslaughter retains the least amount of culpability with regard to any murder charge; the relevant lack of severity exists as a result of the accidental or non-deliberate nature of the crime.

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#37 Dec 8, 2012
um yeah1212 wrote:
Involuntary manslaughter is not classified as murder.
Although both Involuntary Manslaughter and murder result in the premature termination of another’s life, the notion and presence of intent is the primary differentiation between the two illegal and deadly actions.
Involuntary Manslaughter is classified through the presence of a LACK OF INTENT within the event of a death suffered by a victim. Manslaughter retains the least amount of culpability with regard to any murder charge; the relevant lack of severity exists as a result of the accidental or non-deliberate nature of the crime.
Speak your own thoughts...copy and paste is NOT your friend.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#38 Dec 8, 2012
Was asked to look it up, so i did so and told them.
The Enlightened One

Livingston, TN

#39 Dec 9, 2012
Abortion is MURDER, and it should be outlawed. If you don't want to get pregnant, get on birth control, or try another way to receive your pleasure.
what

Crossville, TN

#40 Dec 9, 2012
um yeah1212 wrote:
Involuntary manslaughter is not classified as murder.
Although both Involuntary Manslaughter and murder result in the premature termination of another’s life, the notion and presence of intent is the primary differentiation between the two illegal and deadly actions.
Involuntary Manslaughter is classified through the presence of a LACK OF INTENT within the event of a death suffered by a victim. Manslaughter retains the least amount of culpability with regard to any murder charge; the relevant lack of severity exists as a result of the accidental or non-deliberate nature of the crime.
And people still go to jail for it. Your point?
what

Crossville, TN

#41 Dec 9, 2012
The Enlightened One wrote:
Abortion is MURDER, and it should be outlawed. If you don't want to get pregnant, get on birth control, or try another way to receive your pleasure.
Birth control doesn't always work. We are truly a nation of idiots who wish to regress to the 19th century. Outlawing abortion won't stop it, neither will criminalizing it. You'll still have people getting abortions....and more people ending up in the hospital from sepsis because of it.
The Enlightened One

Livingston, TN

#42 Dec 9, 2012
what wrote:
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Birth control doesn't always work. We are truly a nation of idiots who wish to regress to the 19th century. Outlawing abortion won't stop it, neither will criminalizing it. You'll still have people getting abortions....and more people ending up in the hospital from sepsis because of it.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. If someone is stupid enough to get a back alley abortion then they should reap the rewards.
It's called seperating the wheat from the chaff.
Abstinence or oral/anal always works. ;)

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