Why does our hospital not serve peopl...

Why does our hospital not serve people without insurance?

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wolfie

Jamestown, TN

#1 Jan 30, 2007
Why do they allow our hospital to see people in the emergency room and do all kinds of tests and run up a huge bill but never find a medical cure for the problem, then send the patient home with the same problem as they came in with. Also why are people with no Health insurance treated different in a emergency situation, aren't we all humans? Children of God? Health care needs to change or hospitals need to use the flower bed money on uninsured people with health problems. Grow a human not a tigerlilly.

“Life's hard. Wear a helmet.”

Since: Nov 09

Sedgewickville, MO

#2 Apr 30, 2010
Um... hospitals to treat uninsured patients?

Since: Apr 10

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#3 Apr 30, 2010
"Why do they allow our hospital to see people in the emergency room and do all kinds of tests...but never find a medical cure for the problem, then send the patient home with the same problem as they came in with."

Because that's what they're supposed to do and because there's not much that can be done for someone who has nothing wrong with them in the first place. Furthermore, they aren't treating people without insurance any differently than those who have it. If you think otherwise, you're being paranoid.

Unless you've worked in the ER, you have no idea what kind of bullsh*t those people are forced to deal with. The Emergency room is not an urgent care clinic; a cheap ER is a bad ER. If you want cheap treatment for a sprained ankle, go to Satellite Med....THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE FOR.
TN GaL

Cookeville, TN

#4 Apr 30, 2010
Hospitals are for emergency situations. If you are sick and it can wait go to a clinic. Hospitals are for URGENT MEDICAL ISSUES that can not wait. Public hospitals can not turn patients away regardless. So if you go to the ER with the FLU, they try to treat what they can so that you can go to your regular MD for follow up long term care. Maybe if you pray to GOD he would give you better health or the income to pay for yourself. Uninsured people that go to the ER for every ache and pain are the reason health care is so expensive. Don't go to the ER for a cold, the flu, a sprained ankle, allergies, refills, chronic back pain, toothache etc.
Disgusted

Cookeville, TN

#5 Apr 30, 2010
I get disgusted every time I see people in the ER for things I wouldn't even bother to go to a doctor about. I've seen the histrionic behavior and crazy drama from so many people that I want to slap them and tell them to shut up! Those people tie up the ER staff and keep people that truly need help waiting. No, I do not work in the ER but have gone with people who have had needed to be seen quicky for situations such as a kidney stones or broken leg. I just look around in amazement at people sitting there with not much more than a cut or a cold. That is learned behavior that has been passed down in families.
TN GAL

Cookeville, TN

#6 Apr 30, 2010
I agree Disgusted. Most of the people who go to the ER are on public assistance and do not have to pay at all. I do work in a ER and I see it day in and day out. Also, people with no insurance assume that the hospital is less likely to come after them for bills they rack up because hospitals are a large company and they assume they will write off the charges.

Since: Apr 10

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#7 Apr 30, 2010
Hint: If you spend more than five minutes waiting in the lobby after checking in, you don't need to be in the ER. It kills me when I walk through at 8am, and again at 1pm to find the same effing people still sitting there all agitated because they aren't being immediately treated for their sinus headache that went away four hours ago....and OF COURSE they're paying with TennCare or are uninsured with no intentions of ever paying the bill.
BULL

Cookeville, TN

#8 May 1, 2010
TN GAL wrote:
I agree Disgusted. Most of the people who go to the ER are on public assistance and do not have to pay at all. I do work in a ER and I see it day in and day out. Also, people with no insurance assume that the hospital is less likely to come after them for bills they rack up because hospitals are a large company and they assume they will write off the charges.
If you do work at an ER you should be fired for your comments,also assuming that people with no insurance are less likely to pay thier bills is called "stereotyping" ,if you do actually work at a hospital. You are not a public servant,you would actually be called a piece of shit for a human being.
BULL

Cookeville, TN

#9 May 1, 2010
ROFLCOPTER wrote:
Hint: If you spend more than five minutes waiting in the lobby after checking in, you don't need to be in the ER. It kills me when I walk through at 8am, and again at 1pm to find the same effing people still sitting there all agitated because they aren't being immediately treated for their sinus headache that went away four hours ago....and OF COURSE they're paying with TennCare or are uninsured with no intentions of ever paying the bill.
hint: if you saw someone sitting 5 or 6 hours later,you would call that Cookeville Regional Hospital.

“Life's hard. Wear a helmet.”

Since: Nov 09

Sedgewickville, MO

#10 May 1, 2010
BULL wrote:
hint: if you saw someone sitting 5 or 6 hours later,you would call that Cookeville Regional Hospital.
Hate to point this out, but it's not just Cookeville Regional Hospital. Welcome to America, land of idiots that can't tell a sinus headache from a tumor.

Since: Apr 10

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#11 May 1, 2010
BULL wrote:
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...assuming that people with no insurance are less likely to pay thier bills is called "stereotyping"...
No, it's called "statistics". You, my friend, are naive to the fact that people who don't pay their bills are one of the main contributing factors for price hiking, right next to people who sue the pants off their doctors for things which were completely out of their control. Political correctness has no place in a field where people's lives may be lost or preserved depending on whether or not a hospital can afford to adequately supply its facility.
TN GAL

Cookeville, TN

#12 May 1, 2010
BULL wrote:
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If you do work at an ER you should be fired for your comments,also assuming that people with no insurance are less likely to pay their bills is called "stereotyping" ,if you do actually work at a hospital. You are not a public servant,you would actually be called a piece of shit for a human being.
I am not a public servant. I did not run for office, I was not elected to my position. I am an employee that has experience in this field. Why do you think that people have to fill out employment and credit information when they go into the hospital to be treated without insurance? Because the hospital wants to see how likely they are to pay their bills. I have heard people WITHOUT insurance say a MILLION times that they were not going to pay for the medical care they received. But WE still HAVE TO TREAT THEM. You cant not walk into any store and receive goods on "good faith", the hospital is the same way. Most private hospitals will NOT accept people who do not carry insurance because the are less likely to pay. Statistics do not lie. Our hospital is a public hospital so we HAVE to take people that have no insurance, then pass the expense on to the people who do pay their bills.

Since: Apr 10

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#13 May 1, 2010
Then you have the people with no insurance, no intention of paying, and no immediately life-threatening illness/injury who demand to be transferred to somewhere like Vanderbilt where the cost of care almost doubles or even triples. Why are people demanding to be transferred to a more expensive hospital when the one they're at is able to provide the same level of care for their particular condition and at a lower cost? Because they can. Because people get tired of arguing with the brick wall that is huge chunk of uninsured patients who demand the best of the best simply because they don't have to pay for it.
TN GAL

Cookeville, TN

#14 May 1, 2010
ROFLCOPTER wrote:
Then you have the people with no insurance, no intention of paying, and no immediately life-threatening illness/injury who demand to be transferred to somewhere like Vanderbilt where the cost of care almost doubles or even triples. Why are people demanding to be transferred to a more expensive hospital when the one they're at is able to provide the same level of care for their particular condition and at a lower cost? Because they can. Because people get tired of arguing with the brick wall that is huge chunk of uninsured patients who demand the best of the best simply because they don't have to pay for it.
Some demand to be transferred because they are not getting the narcotics they want. On a daily basis I have patients coming in and telling me what Narcotic they want, the strength and how many times a day they want to take it. I would LOVE if ALL medical records would be made electronic that way we could track all of the patients activities with Clinics, Dr. Offices, Hospitals and Pharmacy's throughout the country. Last week we had a guy come in wanting Narcotics, I overheard him talking to his wife. We were the 6th ER he visited that day. I spent hours calling the hospitals in Tennessee to see where he had been and what meds he was given.
Wow

Cookeville, TN

#15 May 1, 2010
So it is now the middle class or lowers fault that the health care system is all jacked up.. WOW I thought it was big business jack asses making their bonuses for nothing and Im pretty sure insurance companies have been screwing anyone they could for quite some time and the pharmaceutical companies who charge hundreds of dollars for patented medicine that you can find much cheaper in ANY country but our own.. And to think this whole time I was wrong.. It was the people who went to the ER and didnt have insurance. It doesnt matter that it went on their credit report and credit collectors attempt and alot of times succeed at collecting the debt but its poor peoples fault for being poor.
You people are retarded. Shift the blame at the assholes flying their private jets and getting their hundred thousand dollar bonuses FOR WHAT.. Oh yeah doing a great job at blaming the less fortunate..
Lets hope the inconsiderate selfish people on this post never find themselves in the exact situation they bitch and moan about because not everybody without insurance is the scum you try to make them out to be and I would hate for any of you wonderful insurance holding only go to the ER if your dying people to have to experience the judgment and scrutiny your passing along to others.
TN GAL

Cookeville, TN

#16 May 1, 2010
Wow wrote:
So it is now the middle class or lowers fault that the health care system is all jacked up.. WOW I thought it was big business jack asses making their bonuses for nothing and Im pretty sure insurance companies have been screwing anyone they could for quite some time and the pharmaceutical companies who charge hundreds of dollars for patented medicine that you can find much cheaper in ANY country but our own.. And to think this whole time I was wrong.. It was the people who went to the ER and didnt have insurance. It doesnt matter that it went on their credit report and credit collectors attempt and alot of times succeed at collecting the debt but its poor peoples fault for being poor.
You people are retarded. Shift the blame at the assholes flying their private jets and getting their hundred thousand dollar bonuses FOR WHAT.. Oh yeah doing a great job at blaming the less fortunate..
Lets hope the inconsiderate selfish people on this post never find themselves in the exact situation they bitch and moan about because not everybody without insurance is the scum you try to make them out to be and I would hate for any of you wonderful insurance holding only go to the ER if your dying people to have to experience the judgment and scrutiny your passing along to others.
I am not blaming ALL the high health care costs on the people who do not have health insurance, but a large majority of the costs associated with care in hospitals are increased due to people who are uninsured and don't pay their medical bills.

I did not have health insurance for years, but I am smart enough to know NOT to go to the ER for every little thing. I paid cash out of pocket to Clinics, and Doctors Offices for my visits.

It's easy to have an opinion from the outside looking in. But I estimate that 96% of the doctors and nurses I work with have the exact same opinion. When is it the governments responsibility to provide us health care? A majority of illnesses can be prevented by lifestyle choices. Why should the government (us, since we pay taxes)reap the repercussions for peoples bad lifestyle choices.

Now, I have insurance. But my insurance does not cover everything. I still pay out of pocket, and I have to pay increased prices to cover the "losses" due to people not paying medical bills.

Business is business and I will not fault companies(to a point) for making a profit on medications, and services.

I am not talking about all people without medical insurance. I know plenty of people without insurance who do not go to the ER with a COLD. I am talking about the uninsured who abuse the hospital system.

Since: Apr 10

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#17 May 1, 2010
I am a lower-class citizen. I do not have insurance because I don't qualify due to preexisting conditions. I go to the ER when I absolutely need to and I pay my effing bill on a payment plan. It is not inconsiderate or selfish for me to expect other people who are in the same situation as myself to ball-up and quit ripping off the system because I know for a fact that it's happening since I've done my fair share of triageing.

Dear "Wow" you may now proceed to shove your head back up your ass.
Disgusted

Cookeville, TN

#18 May 1, 2010
BULL wrote:
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If you do work at an ER you should be fired for your comments,also assuming that people with no insurance are less likely to pay thier bills is called "stereotyping" ,if you do actually work at a hospital. You are not a public servant,you would actually be called a piece of shit for a human being.
People who work in the ER are NOT public servants!! Why should they be fired? We have freedom of speech in this country and we can stereotype on a personal level if we want. Since when does speaking the truth make you a piece of shit? And it is fact that people with not insurance are more likely to not pay. If they had the money, they would have insurance. You need to live in the real world and get out of fantasy land!
Disgusted

Cookeville, TN

#19 May 1, 2010
ROFLCOPTER wrote:
Then you have the people with no insurance, no intention of paying, and no immediately life-threatening illness/injury who demand to be transferred to somewhere like Vanderbilt where the cost of care almost doubles or even triples. Why are people demanding to be transferred to a more expensive hospital when the one they're at is able to provide the same level of care for their particular condition and at a lower cost? Because they can. Because people get tired of arguing with the brick wall that is huge chunk of uninsured patients who demand the best of the best simply because they don't have to pay for it.
They can't demand to be transferred to Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt is private and does not have to accept anyone they don't want to.
Disgusted

Cookeville, TN

#21 May 1, 2010
ROFLCOPTER wrote:
I am a lower-class citizen. I do not have insurance because I don't qualify due to preexisting conditions. I go to the ER when I absolutely need to and I pay my effing bill on a payment plan. It is not inconsiderate or selfish for me to expect other people who are in the same situation as myself to ball-up and quit ripping off the system because I know for a fact that it's happening since I've done my fair share of triageing.
Dear "Wow" you may now proceed to shove your head back up your ass.
Go to Satellite Med. You will be far ahead financially to not use the ER as though it were a clinic. You may pay 1/10 at sat. med.

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