WATCHTOWER CULT Welcomed To Cookeville

WATCHTOWER CULT Welcomed To Cookeville

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Smokie

Redmond, WA

#2 May 20, 2012
Local TAXPAYERS should be aware that the WatchTower Cult is well known for extracting $$$ "subsidies" $$$ from local governments, local Chambers of Commerce, local CVBs, etc. in exchange for holding their Conventions in a particular locale.

Local TAXPAYERS may want to give the local officials listed above a telephone call to check to see how much TAX DOLLARS were "donated" to the WatchTower Cult to get them to come to Cookeville.
barry weiss

United States

#3 May 20, 2012
All religions are cults. Watchtower group is just as legit as any other group that spews fairy tales of dead carpenters and talking snakes.
Curious

Redmond, WA

#5 May 20, 2012
Here is the disappearing ORIGINAL post to this thread:

According to a news article published in the 5-20-2012 HERALD CITIZEN, local Cookeville officials have been working hard to turn Cookeville, Tennessee into this summer's Convention headquarters for the Jehovah's Witness Cult.

The HERALD CITIZEN news article features a photograph of four prominent Cookeville officials posing with three Convention Representatives from the WatchTower Cult.

Those four local Cookeville officials are:

Thomas Lynn, who is Board Chairman of the Cookeville-Putnam County Chamber of Commerce;

Laura Canada, who is the Director of the Cookeville-Putnam County Convention & Visitors Bureau;

Bob Bell, who is President of Tennessee Tech University; and

Mark Wilson, who is the Athletic Director at Tennessee Tech University.

Although he managed to escape being included in the photograph, George Halford, President/CEO of the Cookeville-Putnam County Chamber of Commerce PRAISED the two WatchTower Cult Conventions coming to Cookeville.

In July 2012, as many as 10,000 cult members from Kentucky, Georgia, Alabama, and Tennessee are expected to rally in Cookeville during two regional WatchTower Conventions hosted at Tennessee Tech's Hooper Eblen Center.

The HERALD CITIZEN news article disclosed that Cookeville officials were able to bring the two larger summer WatchTower Conventions to Cookeville because of the close working relationship that they had developed with the WatchTower Cult over the past several years by allowing the WatchTower Cult to hold smaller one and two-day state Conventions each Fall and Spring at the Hyder-Burks Agricultural Pavilion for the past several years.

Local Cookeville officials expressed their hope that the WatchTower Cult will continue to return to Cookeville in the years to come. All Cookeville and Putnam County residents are invited to attend.
Soooo

Cookeville, TN

#6 May 20, 2012
What is the problem?
mitt

United States

#7 May 20, 2012
If JV are a cult then all the rest of them are cults too. Its funny that baptists or methodists don't realize they're in a cult too.
bo-bo

Cookeville, TN

#8 May 20, 2012
If you go to church u are in a cult, wake up people, u might think u are doing a good deed, but your not. BRAINWASHED
member

United States

#9 May 20, 2012
They are not a cult. I have been around them all my life and never once been hurt or brain washed. I am not a baptized witness but I have been to hundreds of meetings and conventions and they were wonderful! Do a little reading and research. I did and while I might not agree with all their rules I love the brothers and sisters and they work hard to help others ob our community
Questions

Redmond, WA

#10 May 21, 2012
QUESTIONS FOR TAXPAYERS to ask of George Halford, Thomas Lynn, and Laura Canada:

1. How much RENT is the WatchTower Cult paying Tennessee Tech for rental of Hooper Eblen Center? Is the contracted rental fee the full published rental fee, or was the Cult given a discount? If so, how much discount?

2. Is the Cookeville-Putnam County Chamber of Commerce either paying all or part of the cult's RENT to Tennessee Tech DIRECTLY, or is the Chamber of Commerce INDIRECTLY reimbursing the Cult for all or part of the cult's RENT?

3. Is the Cookeville-Putnam County Convention & Visitors Bureau either paying all or part of the cult's RENT to Tennessee Tech DIRECTLY, or is the Bureau INDIRECTLY reimbursing the Cult for all or part of the cult's RENT?

4. Has or Will the Cookeville-Putnam County Chamber of Commerce "donate", "grant", or otherwise "transfer" any money or any other type remuneration or financial consideration to the Cult?

5. Has or Will the Cookeville-Putnam County Convention & Visitors Bureau "donate", "grant", or otherwise "transfer" any money or any other type remuneration or financial consideration to the Cult? Specifically, is there any agreement to "kickback" to the Cult any part of the local TAXES collected during the Conventions?

6. Despite the Chamber of Commerce and the Convention & Visitors Bureau public statements sayings that they HOPE the Cult will hold future Conventions in Cookeville, is there ALREADY an agreement in place for MULTIPLE Conventions to come to Cookville in future years?

7. Are any other local government agencies or local merchant groups providing any other financial incentives or payments to the Cult?
all the same

United States

#11 May 21, 2012
Ask these same questions to all other religious organizations.
good apple

Hoffman Forest, NC

#12 May 21, 2012
Any religion, group, etc has bad apples and so do not judge the millions of wonderful brothers and sisters by what one has done to you. Since they do not toot their own horn and boast about all they do many people do not know that they have spent millions of hours combined helping people.
you are an idiot

Cookeville, TN

#13 May 22, 2012
Questions wrote:
QUESTIONS FOR TAXPAYERS to ask of George Halford, Thomas Lynn, and Laura Canada:
1. How much RENT is the WatchTower Cult paying Tennessee Tech for rental of Hooper Eblen Center? Is the contracted rental fee the full published rental fee, or was the Cult given a discount? If so, how much discount?
2. Is the Cookeville-Putnam County Chamber of Commerce either paying all or part of the cult's RENT to Tennessee Tech DIRECTLY, or is the Chamber of Commerce INDIRECTLY reimbursing the Cult for all or part of the cult's RENT?
3. Is the Cookeville-Putnam County Convention & Visitors Bureau either paying all or part of the cult's RENT to Tennessee Tech DIRECTLY, or is the Bureau INDIRECTLY reimbursing the Cult for all or part of the cult's RENT?
4. Has or Will the Cookeville-Putnam County Chamber of Commerce "donate", "grant", or otherwise "transfer" any money or any other type remuneration or financial consideration to the Cult?
5. Has or Will the Cookeville-Putnam County Convention & Visitors Bureau "donate", "grant", or otherwise "transfer" any money or any other type remuneration or financial consideration to the Cult? Specifically, is there any agreement to "kickback" to the Cult any part of the local TAXES collected during the Conventions?
6. Despite the Chamber of Commerce and the Convention & Visitors Bureau public statements sayings that they HOPE the Cult will hold future Conventions in Cookeville, is there ALREADY an agreement in place for MULTIPLE Conventions to come to Cookville in future years?
7. Are any other local government agencies or local merchant groups providing any other financial incentives or payments to the Cult?
Ask yourself these questions:

1. Will the convention bring thousands of tourists to our community who will spend money in our stores, restaurants and hotel?
2. Is there any history of this group breaking laws or vandalizing communities they go to?
3. Is it the mission of the chamber to attract businesses and tourists to our community?
4. Are you threatened by them simply because they don't share your religious beliefs? I'm Baptist. I know what I believe and why. Having others around me who do not agree doesn't threaten me. If you think they are in a cult, maybe you can find them out in town and witness to them about your beliefs. Maybe God is bringing them here so you can have a chance to convert them. Don't allow your own insecurities to take away a wonderful financial opportunity for our town.

“Obama said the USA is "one ”

Since: Mar 08

nation under Allah"? PROVE IT!

#14 May 23, 2012
Every religion is a cult. You've been indocrinated and spread their ideas and turn over your money to them----the very definition of a cult.

Some religions are about money. Some religions are about pedophilia. Some are about nothing more than what they claim. but they are all cults.

Wake up.
just saying

Cookeville, TN

#15 May 23, 2012
mr mojo risin wrote:
Every religion is a cult. You've been indocrinated and spread their ideas and turn over your money to them----the very definition of a cult.
Some religions are about money. Some religions are about pedophilia. Some are about nothing more than what they claim. but they are all cults.
Wake up.
You should wake up and drop the crackpipe!
just saying

Cookeville, TN

#16 May 23, 2012
mr mojo risin wrote:
Every religion is a cult. You've been indocrinated and spread their ideas and turn over your money to them----the very definition of a cult.
Some religions are about money. Some religions are about pedophilia. Some are about nothing more than what they claim. but they are all cults.
Wake up.
Could you name a church that is "about" any one of these things you mentioned? Or you just spewing your normal paranoid nonsense?

It appears the dope is speaking for you again!
ANSWER THE QUESTIONS

Redmond, WA

#17 May 23, 2012
Reply To: "You-Are-An-Idiot-While-I -Am-A-BAPTIST."

WHY did you copy/quote all of the QUESTIONS that I posed to Cookeville Officials, YET not answer a single one?

I'm sure that many "Baptist" readers are wishing that you would have been more specific about which one of the dozen or so Baptist Sects to which you belong -- which has taught you that so long as a DOLLAR can be made from doing something, then it is the RIGHT THING to do.

Instead of answering my QUESTIONS, YOU pose OTHER questions whose intent is to lead readers away from the ISSUE of whether Cookeville Officials GAVE TAX DOLLARS to the WatchTower Cult in order to get the Cult to move its conventions from Alabama to Cookeville.
Calling Out LAURA CANADA

Redmond, WA

#18 May 25, 2012
Someone from the CVB or the Chamber of Commerce SHOULD answer the 7 Questions, or do Laura Canada, George Halford, and Thomas Lynn believe that what they do is none of the public's business?
Waiting Not So Patiently

Redmond, WA

#19 May 27, 2012
While waiting for someone from the Cookeville-Putnam County Chamber of Commerce or the Cookeville-Putnam County Convention & Visitors Bureau, or some other city or county Government Official to answer the above questions pertaining to whether the WatchTower Cult was given financial assistance, and HOW MUCH, maybe local readers would be interested in knowing how Jehovah's Witnesses actually feel about their new-found friends in Putnam County.

In the mid 1930s, the Watch Tower Society started forbidding Jehovah's Witnesses to salute the American Flag, or recite the Pledge Of Allegiance, or stand for the playing of the National Anthem, or engage in any other patriotic activity. Jehovah's Witnesses were taught to tell the news media, courts, and other outsiders that the American Flag is a false idol, and doing any of the aforementioned activities is performing "worship" to a false idol. This "public relations" reasoning is actually the LEAST of all the reasons that Jehovah's Witnesses refuse to engage in any patriotic or political activities. This secondary, ancillary reasoning was developed because the WatchTower Society did not dare to have its Jehovah's Witness members running around repeating for the news media and courtroom judges the PRIMARY doctrine on this subject, which would outrage the American public.

What Jehovah's Witnesses intentionally do NOT publically explain to non-JWs is that the Watch Tower Society teaches Jehovah's Witnesses that the Government of the United States is governing ILLEGITIMATELY. The Watch Tower Society teaches that the Government of the United States is under the control of Satan the Devil as his partner in Satan's universal rebellion against GOD. The Watch Tower Society teaches that GOD granted humans the authority to rule the earth only for a period of 2520 years -- starting in 607 B.C. and ending in October, 1914 A.D.  The Watch Tower Society teaches that in October, 1914, the authority to rule the earth reverted back to GOD, and that He then formed a heavenly government to rule the earth -- with Jesus Christ as King. The Watch Tower Society teaches that in 1919 that Jesus Christ selected the Watch Tower Society as his sole earthly representative of that heavenly government.  The Watch Tower Society teaches that the Government of the United States (as well as all other governments), is its' enemy, because it has failed to surrender governmental power that rightfully belongs to the Watch Tower Society.

These are the ACTUAL reasons that the Watch Tower Society forbids its Jehovah's Witness members to support the government of the United States -- no voting, no holding political office, no professing citizen loyalty via the Pledge of Allegiance or standing for the National Anthem, no joining the military to protect the United States, etc.  Jehovah's Witnesses do not profess to be "pacifists".  They claim to be "neutrals".  JWs consider themselves to be "citizens" of the government supposedly formed in heaven in 1919, and that they are only "resident aliens" of the United States. The Watch Tower Society teaches that Armageddon will occur "soon", and at the Battle of Armageddon, that Jesus Christ and his heavenly armies will destroy the armies and governments of the United States, and of all other countries -- including all people who did not convert to the Jehovah's Witnesses. Jehovah's Witnesses look forward to the day when they will rule the planet.

Currently, the Watch Tower Society tells JWs not to forcefully oppose the United States, or other governments.  Given their fanatical beliefs as to what they have to gain, one can only speculate what would happen if the Watch Tower Society ever told JWs otherwise.
CuLtH8r

Cookeville, TN

#20 May 29, 2012
all the same wrote:
Ask these same questions to all other religious organizations.
All these other religions dont make a big deal about holding multiple "conventions" here.

I could name a few local churches that actually give back to the community, granted they are not all "walking in the light" but not every religion is a cult. My personal religion tells me to be a living witness, not cram my beliefs down someones throat. Bottom line, the JW doctrine is so far mis-aligned with the bible it's not funny. They say only 144k people will go to heaven, but my bible tells me that all you that are heavy burdened come until me and i'll give you rest, not 144k of you come. The conventions will bring people here thus increasing revenue for local businesses/hotels, but i agree with most of you, if my towns government won't pay for mom and pop church functions they darn sure better not be paying for this one.
Questions

Redmond, WA

#21 May 30, 2012
Question for CuLtH8r:

Did I understand correctly YOUR POST on the other JW Convention thread -- stating that MOST of the employees at the HERALD-CITIZEN are Jehovah's Witnesses?
If so, that would explain why there was no mention of any money or other financial incentives given to the WatchTower Cult -- assuming such did occur.

Is the HERALD-CITIZEN owned locally, or it part of some larger media group? WHO? Where located?

One reason that I ask is because I know of TWO (maybe 3) other small town newspapers within a short distance from Cookeville which employ multiple JWs. Given how few JWs there are, I doubt that such would be a coincidence.

Let me also state that I don't care where the WatchTower Cult holds its conventions -- so long as the costs and expenses of such are 100% borne by the Cult.

No Local Government or its affiliated agencies should be providing ANY financial assistance to the WatchTower Cult unless local Government Officials are providing an EQUAL AMOUNT of support to each and every church within its jurisdiction.

I DON'T CARE that the local restaurant owners and motel owners are going to make bundles of money off these conventions.

Are Local Government Officials prepared to tell Putnam County VOTERS that Jehovah's Witnesses DO MORE for Putnam County in six days of the year than ALL the OTHER Churches do in 365 days a year?
Friend O Witness

Nashville, TN

#22 May 30, 2012
Smokie wrote:
Local TAXPAYERS should be aware that the WatchTower Cult is well known for extracting $$$ "subsidies" $$$ from local governments, local Chambers of Commerce, local CVBs, etc. in exchange for holding their Conventions in a particular locale.
Local TAXPAYERS may want to give the local officials listed above a telephone call to check to see how much TAX DOLLARS were "donated" to the WatchTower Cult to get them to come to Cookeville.
I can't answer your questions, and it really no concern of mine. My question is: Why do you continually refer the organization as a cult?

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