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Eddy

Cookeville, TN

#63 Dec 7, 2012
Jenni wrote:
<quoted text> oh wait, did I just hear talk from Whitehouse about Syria using WMD's against it own people and forcing us to then get involved. Oh possibly got from the old iraqi stash they said! But wait, W lied about that, or did he? Its funny how when Iraqi happened based on maybe false intelligence, it was Bush's lie. But when false intelligence might to be the blame on Benghazi, its not Obama's fault. Now come on people!
More innuendo from the new queen of topix. Nothing to back this up though, right?! Maybe it was leftovers that Donald Rumsfield sent over there. See. I can make shit up too. Oh wait. He did send it over there.
Jenni

United States

#64 Dec 7, 2012
Jenni

United States

#65 Dec 7, 2012
According to an article in the Atlantic Wire July 27, 2012, President Obama’s Director of National Security, James Clapper, has been outspoken about the transfer of materials from Iraq.

“As director of the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, Clapper said in 2003 that satellite images showing a heavy flow of traffic from Iraq to Syria "unquestionably" show that illicit weapons were moved out of Iraq.”
http://www.examiner.com/article/chemical-weap...
Johnny B

Cookeville, TN

#66 Dec 7, 2012
Why is unquestionably in quotes? Why not quote the rest of the article that casts doubt on this.. Here's the rest of it.

Second, let’s say that Saddam wasn’t so concerned about the Americans — a miscalculation that Saddam seems to have made. That’s actually not a rationale for transferring weapons to Syria. Just like in 1991, he faced the collapse of his regime. Except back then, he slaughtered jubilant Shiites and used chemical weapons on the Kurds. Why, in 2003, would Saddam give up the worst threat he could make against his people?
Third, the Iraqi Ba’athists and Syrian Ba’athists are far from allies. Syria’s Allawites are minority Shiites and proxies to Iraq’s arch-enemy Iran. They fought on the allied side against Iraq during Desert Storm. Why would Saddam turn over his deadliest weapons Iran’s best friend in the region? Remember: Saddam says he made his WMD threats to cower the Iranians.
Fourth, from a U.S. military perspective, the transfer would have been impossible to hide. I worked at U.S. Central Command’s Mideast headquarters before, during, and after the invasion, which gave me a good understanding of what was going on at the time. The region was blanketed by U.S. military assets. Operation Enduring Freedom was in full swing in Afghanistan, and Operations Northern and Southern Watch were still in place over Iraq. If something moved — like, say a convoy of Winnebagos of Death heading for Syria — it could be detected and killed.

Theory and conjecture. No facts!
Jenni

United States

#67 Dec 7, 2012
Johnny B wrote:
Why is unquestionably in quotes? Why not quote the rest of the article that casts doubt on this.. Here's the rest of it.
Second, let’s say that Saddam wasn’t so concerned about the Americans — a miscalculation that Saddam seems to have made. That’s actually not a rationale for transferring weapons to Syria. Just like in 1991, he faced the collapse of his regime. Except back then, he slaughtered jubilant Shiites and used chemical weapons on the Kurds. Why, in 2003, would Saddam give up the worst threat he could make against his people?
Third, the Iraqi Ba’athists and Syrian Ba’athists are far from allies. Syria’s Allawites are minority Shiites and proxies to Iraq’s arch-enemy Iran. They fought on the allied side against Iraq during Desert Storm. Why would Saddam turn over his deadliest weapons Iran’s best friend in the region? Remember: Saddam says he made his WMD threats to cower the Iranians.
Fourth, from a U.S. military perspective, the transfer would have been impossible to hide. I worked at U.S. Central Command’s Mideast headquarters before, during, and after the invasion, which gave me a good understanding of what was going on at the time. The region was blanketed by U.S. military assets. Operation Enduring Freedom was in full swing in Afghanistan, and Operations Northern and Southern Watch were still in place over Iraq. If something moved — like, say a convoy of Winnebagos of Death heading for Syria — it could be detected and killed.
Theory and conjecture. No facts!
"Theory and conjecture", so the fact that its know fact that Saddam killed millions of his own Iraqi citizens, Iranians, and Kerds from 79-99, and some how in 2002 no more chemical weapons after years of refusing to let UN inspectors in to check. No way he could have moved them, right?

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