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cautious

Cookeville, TN

#1 Jul 11, 2009
I am considering going into a business relationship with this man and his company J&S Construction but am slightly hesitant. He seems upfront and honest but I have been warned by more then a few people.

Please let me know if you know anything more about him then what meets the eye.

Thank you very much!
~cautious
aquainted

Baxter, TN

#2 Jul 11, 2009
I am aquainted with Jack and Johnny Stites from church. As far as I know they're honest and trustworthy and good christians. I would trust them to do a job for me. I heard them say that they try to hire good christian people and that they and all the J & S employees have a tight relationship as a team. It's still important to have a good binding contract for any business that you hire a company to do.
Dishonest people

Cookeville, TN

#3 Jul 11, 2009
The entire Stites Family is dishonest. Christians? yeah right, if you call stealing from hard working people and adding extra costs to their original quote awesome Christian beliefs then ok. They steal from you with a smile, I hope there's a place in Hell for them. Stay away from them there are much better construction companies around here.
Cypress

Monterey, TN

#4 Jul 11, 2009
Dishonest people wrote:
The entire Stites Family is dishonest. Christians? yeah right, if you call stealing from hard working people and adding extra costs to their original quote awesome Christian beliefs then ok. They steal from you with a smile, I hope there's a place in Hell for them. Stay away from them there are much better construction companies around here.
I know the family, I am not friends with them, I also know a few employees. They are good people and good Christians. Your remarks are slander and lies. As far as being good Christians I doubt they are sitting around writing terrible
things bout people on the internet. God Bless You.
JSareCrooks

Faison, NC

#5 Jul 14, 2009
Anybody that does business with J&S comes out screwed. I can give numerous examples of people getting a terrible deal from them. CROOKS!!
RUN AND RUN FAST!
I hope you have not entered into any type of business dealings with them. They pull the "christian" we go to church to get more business scam all the time.
never

United States

#6 Jul 15, 2009
So they are working americans Now?
Why

Lenoir City, TN

#7 Jul 15, 2009
Hey cautious, I don't think you're being very cautious coming on here asking advice from anonymous people. Don't believe or trust anything you read on here. There are way too many trolls on here who will say anything about anybody just to get a rise out of people and start some trouble. If you want to know about the business and their dealings do some research. Go to the Better Business Bureau or the Chamber of Commerce. They should have records of complaints the owners and companies have had. Ask the owners for lists of past clients and contact them. I would try any other avenue I could find rather than on here. This is a total waste of time if you're trying to find reliable information.
cautious

Cookeville, TN

#8 Jul 15, 2009
JSareCrooks wrote:
Anybody that does business with J&S comes out screwed. I can give numerous examples of people getting a terrible deal from them. CROOKS!!
RUN AND RUN FAST!
I hope you have not entered into any type of business dealings with them. They pull the "christian" we go to church to get more business scam all the time.
Can you give me some examples or something concrete I can go on?

And to the others that replied, thank you for taking the time to do so. I have a couple of responses I wish to give.

To acquainted: I am not so much concerned with what religion they practice as much as I am with how they run their business beyond the religious claim. I assumed they would be Christian to be so successful in an extremely Christian town, so that goes without saying, but being a devout Christian and being an honest business person do not always go hand in hand as one would hope. Sometimes one is even used as a shield to gain trust even when the other does not exist.

Dishonest, can you also give specific examples?

...and to Why:
I believe that in addition to doing concrete research on a company that posing a question in an open forum where people can give an anonymous response can be valuable as well. You see in a town this small I have noticed that people are far less likely to be honest about someone with negative information, especially if that person is "old money", well connected, and well known. There are consequences to speaking out against the grain. I know to expect rubbish answers and am capable of sorting through responses to see if there may be a bit of truth so don't worry that I am easily influenced through an open source forum.

Any other answers would be wonderful, no I haven't signed into anything yet at this time.
PeterBuilt

Cookeville, TN

#9 Jul 15, 2009
If I were them I would not do business with you for opening such a forum. I hope you can sort through the answers because you will hear all types of opinions. Anyone who has done any business for years will always have unhappy people. Usually in construction, people can be very unreasonable and difficult to please. There are ALWAYS going to be problems with contractors. From what I know, they do a good job. It takes a thick skin to deal with the public.
Long time outsider

Cookeville, TN

#10 Jul 16, 2009
To cautious:
some key words here are..
old money
well connected
Should something go wrong, who would come out on top do you think?
Trust your instincts.
Aquainted

Smyrna, TN

#11 Jul 16, 2009
cautious wrote:
<quoted text>
being a devout Christian and being an honest business person do not always go hand in hand as one would hope. Sometimes one is even used as a shield to gain trust even when the other does not exist.
Yeah, I agree with that. I have never had any business dealings with them, so I don't know personally how they conduct business.

Peterbuilt said this "Anyone who has done any business for years will always have unhappy people. Usually in construction, people can be very unreasonable and difficult to please. There are ALWAYS going to be problems with contractors. From what I know, they do a good job. It takes a thick skin to deal with the public."
I agree with this also.
whoever you do business with, be very specific when describing to them what you expect and make sure it's in the contract.
Are you doing something commercial or residential? J & S is mostly involved in large commercial projects. If it's residential I would recommend checking out some of the smaller construction contractors. However, no matter who you use, there will be a certain level of uncertainty.
If I were doing a large commercial project, I think I would feel comfortable using J & S for the simple fact that they are so large. As long as there was a good contract. A company like that doesn't want a bad name and definately doesn't want to be sued for not fulfilling a contract. Alot of the problems that arise during and after construction, when dealing with larger companies and individuals alike are the result of poor communication. I can't stress enough the need to be VERY SPECIFIC when telling them what you expect.
ask

Maryville, TN

#12 Jul 24, 2009
Ask the now ex-owners of CyberTag, Beef O' Bradys, and I am sure quite a few others if he can be trusted...
Different is BAD

United States

#13 Jul 24, 2009
They use their christianity to discriminate against anyone that is different than them. Like someone said before me, they are strongly connected here in town - if you needed recourse for anything that went wrong no attorney in town would touch it, you'd have to go out of town, which is what I suggest you do anyway... Heck our own school board recently contracted a company out of Atlanta to build one of our schools. There are good companies out there, and there are honest people. Just do your homework.
Joe Bob

United States

#14 Jul 24, 2009
A crook from way backkkkkkkkk
Peterbuilt

Cookeville, TN

#15 Jul 24, 2009
Different is BAD wrote:
They use their christianity to discriminate against anyone that is different than them. Like someone said before me, they are strongly connected here in town - if you needed recourse for anything that went wrong no attorney in town would touch it, you'd have to go out of town, which is what I suggest you do anyway... Heck our own school board recently contracted a company out of Atlanta to build one of our schools. There are good companies out there, and there are honest people. Just do your homework.
Not true at all. I know exactly how judges would deal with them. There have been issues before the court in the past as with any company that has been in business a long time. No one and I mean no one in this town is the least bit scared of the Stites. That is silly and childish. I have yet to see anyone give any concrete situation regarding the trash spewed on this topic.
ask Collegeside as well

Maryville, TN

#16 Jul 26, 2009
here is a link to the html version of their newsletter from Dec. 2008...read the Statement From the Elders ...or if you don't trust my link at the bottom of this post simply google the phrase Johnny Stites Collegeside and read the PDF that is posted with the date 12/19/08 (it was my 3rd listing)
http://74.125.113.132/search?q =cache:UMD6UaV_lw4J:www.colleg eside.org/Files_Uploaded/12-19 -08.pdf+johnny+stites+church+o f+god&cd=4&hl=en&c t=clnk&gl=us&client=fi refox-a
ask Collegeside as well

Maryville, TN

#17 Jul 26, 2009
my link didn't copy and paste completely so just google the phrase I mentioned and read it...it says:

Johnny Stites met with the Elders on Sunday, December the 14th,
and stated that he was sorry for being divisive and asked for permission
to confess his sin publicly . Weprayed for him during the meeting. He
then came forward Sunday night and after his statement to the
congregation the Elders lead the congregation in prayer for him.
Following the example of Paul in 2 Cor. 2 the Elders asked the
congregation to accept Johnny back and forgive him. He was told that
he would be treated like everyone else and will be used as the various
committees deem appropriate.
ToGod be the glory!!!
The Elders

Since: Jul 09

Monterey, TN

#18 Jul 26, 2009
This is not about Johnny Stites, but rather a general observation:

Be VERY careful about judging someone simply because they attend church and seem like a nice person. This is the Bible belt. Almost everyone attends church. It's good business to attend church. Churches are good networking opportunities. In fact, it's nearly standard procedure for wannabe politicians to become ushers at larger churches.
guest

Cookeville, TN

#19 Jul 26, 2009
upsouth wrote:
This is not about Johnny Stites, but rather a general observation:
Be VERY careful about judging someone simply because they attend church and seem like a nice person. This is the Bible belt. Almost everyone attends church. It's good business to attend church. Churches are good networking opportunities. In fact, it's nearly standard procedure for wannabe politicians to become ushers at larger churches.
Agreed! Churches around here are like little clubs if you ask me. It is a common question to ask someone what church they attend, and if the answer isn't "theirs" or none, then you are not really excepted. Many folk wouldn't dream of doing business with someone not Christian. Personally, I wouldn't take my business to anyone that advertises religion in their ads. Not because I have anything against freedom of speech or religion, but I just have no use for anyone that feels they have to make it public (as if it really means something) and believes they are better because of it.
NCHRIST

Cookeville, TN

#20 Jul 26, 2009
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed! Churches around here are like little clubs if you ask me. It is a common question to ask someone what church they attend, and if the answer isn't "theirs" or none, then you are not really excepted. Many folk wouldn't dream of doing business with someone not Christian. Personally, I wouldn't take my business to anyone that advertises religion in their ads. Not because I have anything against freedom of speech
or religion, but I just have no use for anyone that feels they have to make it public (as if it really means something) and believes they are better because of it.
I will pray for you. Your reason for being is only to serve God. I try to let everyone know I am a Christian, by mouth and actions. God Bless.

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