nothing to fear but fear

Cookeville, TN

#22 Jan 31, 2013
Timothy wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't have theories on them. Too many to think about. Take a look at all the conspiracy videos posted on topix. When will just one of them ever materialize. Just one. I don't run my life afraid of every thing that could possibly go bad. Don't have bars on my windows and don't have a years worth of food for the financial armageddon predicted. I do have a few weapons for home protection. As far as gun control, look at what is happening in our country. Every day someone is murdering our citizens with guns. And don't say it's only criminals, because it's not only criminals. 5 people shot at gunshows one day last week, by people who have no business owning a handgun, let alone an assault weapon. The whole world cannot be wrong and we are right about guns. Hunting. Yes Protection. Yes Overthrow the government. No. You will never overthrow the gov. Your weapons, no matter the type, will not be enough. Defeat is not tyranny! The right has become totally whacked out over everything. McConnel sponsors a bill and fillibusters his own bill. What is more insane than that. Your message is so out there that only the whackos believe in it. And there just aren't enough whackos to win elections. I don't like the government as it stands either, but I'm not going to pretend that overthrowing the government is the answer. What happens if you do succeed? What happens. What happens if states secede. None of this is thought through. You want to return to the wild west. Go for it. Not me!
Could not have said it better myself!!!
Timothy

Cookeville, TN

#23 Jan 31, 2013
"Given that second amendment advocates are now being depicted as dangerous terrorists by the federal government and local law enforcement"

They are being depicted that way because they are acting that way. Plain and simple!!!!
Redneck

Cookeville, TN

#24 Jan 31, 2013
nothing to fear but fear wrote:
<quoted text>Could not have said it better myself!!!
Look at history and what follows when nations have disarmed their citizens..no you have no fear nor brains ..you are a libtard without a doubt ..now take your Prozac and go back to happy land while you can
Ruby

Cookeville, TN

#25 Feb 1, 2013
Redneck wrote:
<quoted text>Look at history and what follows when nations have disarmed their citizens..no you have no fear nor brains ..you are a libtard without a doubt ..now take your Prozac and go back to happy land while you can
Disarmed! Now that's funny. Ol Wayne LaPierre got your panties in a wad. Quick, go buy another gun and more ammo, because that's what the NRA is all about. Salesmanship! They don't give a damn about the constitution.
gun packen Vet

Livingston, TN

#26 Feb 1, 2013
I do know things are covered up by the government.
Korea has the DMZ, there is a area between the borders which both sides patrol. On occasion the different side will engage each other (in that zone) and men were killed.
The family was informed it was a training accident (this I know for fact,My orders were I was to accompany the body back to the US I was not to leave it unaccompanied until placed in the ground and covered.
In central America (we the US) was not to have anymore than 250 troops in El Salvador or Nicaragua.These were to be advisers. The was (the gov got around it)
We were send SD (special Duty) this is not a deployment which must be approved by Congress or anyone. AT the 6 mth point we went on R&R to Costa Rica or were ever for 2 weeks and sent back. The reason I know this? I was there, as well as other things that was assigned to our team.
The power the Commander and Chief has is more that could imagine to cover things, to hide things like it didn't happen, and mis-information.
I am not saying over throw the government at all (but please don't think it cant be accomplished)
I was speaking of other finds, videos and reports which the government will not explain of why or refuse to address the question.


Timothy wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't have theories on them. Too many to think about. Take a look at all the conspiracy videos posted on topix. When will just one of them ever materialize. Just one. I don't run my life afraid of every thing that could possibly go bad. Don't have bars on my windows and don't have a years worth of food for the financial armageddon predicted. I do have a few weapons for home protection. As far as gun control, look at what is happening in our country. Every day someone is murdering our citizens with guns. And don't say it's only criminals, because it's not only criminals. 5 people shot at gunshows one day last week, by people who have no business owning a handgun, let alone an assault weapon. The whole world cannot be wrong and we are right about guns. Hunting. Yes Protection. Yes Overthrow the government. No. You will never overthrow the gov. Your weapons, no matter the type, will not be enough. Defeat is not tyranny! The right has become totally whacked out over everything. McConnel sponsors a bill and fillibusters his own bill. What is more insane than that. Your message is so out there that only the whackos believe in it. And there just aren't enough whackos to win elections. I don't like the government as it stands either, but I'm not going to pretend that overthrowing the government is the answer. What happens if you do succeed? What happens. What happens if states secede. None of this is thought through. You want to return to the wild west. Go for it. Not me!
Timothy

Cookeville, TN

#27 Feb 1, 2013
gun packen Vet wrote:
I do know things are covered up by the government.
Korea has the DMZ, there is a area between the borders which both sides patrol. On occasion the different side will engage each other (in that zone) and men were killed.
The family was informed it was a training accident (this I know for fact,My orders were I was to accompany the body back to the US I was not to leave it unaccompanied until placed in the ground and covered.
In central America (we the US) was not to have anymore than 250 troops in El Salvador or Nicaragua.These were to be advisers. The was (the gov got around it)
We were send SD (special Duty) this is not a deployment which must be approved by Congress or anyone. AT the 6 mth point we went on R&R to Costa Rica or were ever for 2 weeks and sent back. The reason I know this? I was there, as well as other things that was assigned to our team.
The power the Commander and Chief has is more that could imagine to cover things, to hide things like it didn't happen, and mis-information.
I am not saying over throw the government at all (but please don't think it cant be accomplished)
I was speaking of other finds, videos and reports which the government will not explain of why or refuse to address the question.
<quoted text>
Not sure what weapons would stand a chance with these being used against them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_weapon

And these are only the ones we know about. I can only imagine what they have that we don't know about. I am not advocating their use, but know full well that in a time of insurrection, they wouldn't hesitate.
But my point was that these "revolutionaries" are in the minority. The election was legal, and should be abided by. If the GOP can't run candidates that can win, this is their problem. This "revolution" garbage seems to happen only when a democrat is in the white house though. And with a black president, it only makes it that much threatening to them. This country does not only belong to white men. The demographics are changing rapidly and that is something the right will have to come to grips with. Are they going to kill everyone who disagrees with them? Is that what the founding fathers had in mind with the 2nd amendment? I don't think so. Maybe you disagree.
Desert Storm Vet

Tullahoma, TN

#28 Feb 1, 2013
Timothy wrote:
<quoted text>
Not sure what weapons would stand a chance with these being used against them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_weapon
And these are only the ones we know about. I can only imagine what they have that we don't know about. I am not advocating their use, but know full well that in a time of insurrection, they wouldn't hesitate.
But my point was that these "revolutionaries" are in the minority. The election was legal, and should be abided by. If the GOP can't run candidates that can win, this is their problem. This "revolution" garbage seems to happen only when a democrat is in the white house though. And with a black president, it only makes it that much threatening to them. This country does not only belong to white men. The demographics are changing rapidly and that is something the right will have to come to grips with. Are they going to kill everyone who disagrees with them? Is that what the founding fathers had in mind with the 2nd amendment? I don't think so. Maybe you disagree.
The majority of votes from those which voted went to Obama. I am very conservative. I am not a member of any party. I have nothing against having a "black" president. I have lots of problems with Obama. He is following the path of dictators before him. I do not believe he has our country's interests at heart. He has his own agenda and he will get it passed by any means.
I would vote to have all politicians ousted and start over. Ban all parties and have only independents run. That is the only way to stop the party agenda and get back to making our country great. We cannot overthrow our government. If we tried and succeeded, we would be weak from the battle and probably overrun by another country. We need to find a way to have our leaders care about us and quit looking out just for themselves. HAHA.
Power corrupts even the best intentioned people.
Timothy

Cookeville, TN

#29 Feb 1, 2013
Desert Storm Vet wrote:
<quoted text>The majority of votes from those which voted went to Obama. I am very conservative. I am not a member of any party. I have nothing against having a "black" president. I have lots of problems with Obama. He is following the path of dictators before him. I do not believe he has our country's interests at heart. He has his own agenda and he will get it passed by any means.
I would vote to have all politicians ousted and start over. Ban all parties and have only independents run. That is the only way to stop the party agenda and get back to making our country great. We cannot overthrow our government. If we tried and succeeded, we would be weak from the battle and probably overrun by another country. We need to find a way to have our leaders care about us and quit looking out just for themselves. HAHA.
Power corrupts even the best intentioned people.
Agreed!!!!
IMHO

Cookeville, TN

#30 Feb 1, 2013
Timothy, maybe I AM paranoid. But just remember - the German people allowed Hitler to take their guns. He took power by convincing von Hindenburg to make him "Reichs Chancellor", and used the "Enabling Act" to take complete, unopposable power, which, in turn, allowed him to be "Der Fuhrer" - or "leader" (read that as DICTATOR) of Germany, Austria, and the Austro-Hungarian empire. Perhaps you should read the Wikipedia article and understand the history, and then you might understand why some of us are drawing comparisons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler 's_rise_to_power
solo

Humble, TX

#31 Feb 1, 2013
Timothy wrote:
An election was held and the you lost. So you think that buying up all the guns and threatening a revolution is the answer. What about the majority? The right is unable to come up with candidates who aren't crazy loons, and continue to lose elections. So they think that they will force their minority opinion on the rest of us. Good luck. The gov. will and should crush the first such uprising with all the might they can muster. And send the "super patriots" back under the rocks where they came from. And with the help of the Patriot Act, they know exactly who you are. Good luck with your revolution!
We know who you are as well! Coward!!!
gun packing Vet

Livingston, TN

#32 Feb 2, 2013
I agree with what you both.

Yet I have serious doubts that Obama ran for office in a legal manner.
To date:
1. A official BC has not been produced.(Yes a Cert. of live Birth was) That is not the same.
2. All his records has been sealed. His history is very much a unknown or confirmed.Why would a Saudi give 20M to Harvard and pay for his college???? Why would ALL his records be sealed? Why??
3. There is several issues and statements which has now he has done a 180 on.
4. Statements made to Muslims and even the super power leader the (USSR) Russia.

I look for the man that cane do the job, its that simple for me. Granted we have not had alot the vote for. Yet the ones who could do a good job the media will pick them apart.
Like Guns: We are made aware of eveny time a person is killed by a weapon in anger etc... Yet the lives that are saved by a gun being near by is not reported.

Timothy wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed!!!!
Timothy

Cookeville, TN

#33 Feb 3, 2013
gun packing Vet wrote:
I agree with what you both.
Yet I have serious doubts that Obama ran for office in a legal manner.
To date:
1. A official BC has not been produced.(Yes a Cert. of live Birth was) That is not the same.
2. All his records has been sealed. His history is very much a unknown or confirmed.Why would a Saudi give 20M to Harvard and pay for his college???? Why would ALL his records be sealed? Why??
3. There is several issues and statements which has now he has done a 180 on.
4. Statements made to Muslims and even the super power leader the (USSR) Russia.
I look for the man that cane do the job, its that simple for me. Granted we have not had alot the vote for. Yet the ones who could do a good job the media will pick them apart.
Like Guns: We are made aware of eveny time a person is killed by a weapon in anger etc... Yet the lives that are saved by a gun being near by is not reported.
<quoted text>
1. An official birth certificate has been shown. The right just refuses to believe it.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/artic...

2. Are anyone's college records open for public scrutiny? His are private records just as yours would be. If he choses to release them, that would be his prerogative, as it would be yours to release them.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/money.as...

3.???? What 180 are you speaking of? Not too uncommon for presidents to say things that might not happen. re:Read My Lips.

4. What statements? Telling Muslims that the US needs a better relationship with them. Contrary to popular rightwing belief, only a small percentage of Muslims believe in the fundamentalist teaches of Al Queda leaders. Telling Putin he would have more leeway after the election. Everything is magnified 100 times during an election. What has he done with Russia for you to think something isn't above board(as much as a government can be)? Negotiations are a 2 way street. This is what the right will never understand. They want what they want and to hell with what the other side wants. Politics doesn't work that way, as evidenced by our lack of progress in this country.

5. Thank you for your service to our country. It's guys like you that make it possible for all of us "cowards" to have a say.
Timothy

Cookeville, TN

#34 Feb 3, 2013
IMHO wrote:
Timothy, maybe I AM paranoid. But just remember - the German people allowed Hitler to take their guns. He took power by convincing von Hindenburg to make him "Reichs Chancellor", and used the "Enabling Act" to take complete, unopposable power, which, in turn, allowed him to be "Der Fuhrer" - or "leader" (read that as DICTATOR) of Germany, Austria, and the Austro-Hungarian empire. Perhaps you should read the Wikipedia article and understand the history, and then you might understand why some of us are drawing comparisons.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler 's_rise_to_power
No one is coming for your guns!!! The NRA has been lying to you. The work for the gun manufacturers! To sell guns! This has never been so evident recently with them opposing registration, even though damn near 100% of its members agree it is necessary. Why is this????
gun packing Vet

Livingston, TN

#35 Feb 3, 2013
The Birth Cert. "Is a live birth cert" Mine says Cert of birth" to much is question, and not produced until way later.(if you dont think he can side step land mines which in office your mistaken"

College Records:
Yes, that is correct. Whu wouldnt you make the public, after all. You are running for the Top Job?? WHy would the Saudi's give 20m donation and pay for his school?
Why would his SSN be tied to a Ales name, or he and his wife surrendered their Law License?
3. No, saying he was sorry when Americans are killed over the Kuran. and apologizing for it.

Some things aren't Negotiable, You do or you dont.

180

1. Gay marriage
2. Taxes for 250k will not see any increase, etc...

DO you truly think the people want Obamacare? No, it was forced on us. Or to pay for a illegal to have medical and college for free? I think not.

Example: Woman in a combat Arms MOS!
Yes, some can meet PT the requirements, and shoot well. Here are some things people may not think about.

1. Being in the field with a female.
Her hormones set in when on the Rag.
Have the Kotex available when she is and needs one.
A man will subject himself to danger for a female much faster than for a man. Just trying to save her, This is human nature, where if it was a man he may think or wait until a better time to move for a rescue or to protect.

While in BNOC there were 2 weeks in the jungle required. There were 2 females in the class. They were more of a burden, and slowed down patrols, needed more attention from Medic's 5 to 1 than the male grunts.
Everyone who serves knows they may be faced to defend their position. Be it a cook, truck driver, Medic, etc.. Thats why they are issued a weapon and receive training to fire it.

Gays in combat Arms MOS.
If I had to have a blood transfusion, and I am on the front line.Its to save my life, I would much rather have it from a straight guy than a Gay. AIDS etc... would be passed to me.

Know nothing about the coward statement you made.





Timothy wrote:
<quoted text>
1. An official birth certificate has been shown. The right just refuses to believe it.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/artic...
2. Are anyone's college records open for public scrutiny? His are private records just as yours would be. If he choses to release them, that would be his prerogative, as it would be yours to release them.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/money.as...
3.???? What 180 are you speaking of? Not too uncommon for presidents to say things that might not happen. re:Read My Lips.
4. What statements? Telling Muslims that the US needs a better relationship with them. Contrary to popular rightwing belief, only a small percentage of Muslims believe in the fundamentalist teaches of Al Queda leaders. Telling Putin he would have more leeway after the election. Everything is magnified 100 times during an election. What has he done with Russia for you to think something isn't above board(as much as a government can be)? Negotiations are a 2 way street. This is what the right will never understand. They want what they want and to hell with what the other side wants. Politics doesn't work that way, as evidenced by our lack of progress in this country.
5. Thank you for your service to our country. It's guys like you that make it possible for all of us "cowards" to have a say.
enough

Tullahoma, TN

#36 Feb 3, 2013
gun packing Vet wrote:
The Birth Cert. "Is a live birth cert" Mine says Cert of birth" to much is question, and not produced until way later.(if you dont think he can side step land mines which in office your mistaken"
College Records:
Yes, that is correct. Whu wouldnt you make the public, after all. You are running for the Top Job?? WHy would the Saudi's give 20m donation and pay for his school?
Why would his SSN be tied to a Ales name, or he and his wife surrendered their Law License?
3. No, saying he was sorry when Americans are killed over the Kuran. and apologizing for it.
Some things aren't Negotiable, You do or you dont.
180
1. Gay marriage
2. Taxes for 250k will not see any increase, etc...
DO you truly think the people want Obamacare? No, it was forced on us. Or to pay for a illegal to have medical and college for free? I think not.
Example: Woman in a combat Arms MOS!
Yes, some can meet PT the requirements, and shoot well. Here are some things people may not think about.
1. Being in the field with a female.
Her hormones set in when on the Rag.
Have the Kotex available when she is and needs one.
A man will subject himself to danger for a female much faster than for a man. Just trying to save her, This is human nature, where if it was a man he may think or wait until a better time to move for a rescue or to protect.
While in BNOC there were 2 weeks in the jungle required. There were 2 females in the class. They were more of a burden, and slowed down patrols, needed more attention from Medic's 5 to 1 than the male grunts.
Everyone who serves knows they may be faced to defend their position. Be it a cook, truck driver, Medic, etc.. Thats why they are issued a weapon and receive training to fire it.
Gays in combat Arms MOS.
If I had to have a blood transfusion, and I am on the front line.Its to save my life, I would much rather have it from a straight guy than a Gay. AIDS etc... would be passed to me.
Know nothing about the coward statement you made.
<quoted text>
The election over get over it creep
gun packing Vet

Livingston, TN

#37 Feb 3, 2013
Hello "ENOUGH"
Glad you had a chance to vote. I am just wishing some one would kick his ass out.
You are right its is over, I see you have expanded your vocabulary to include the word "creep". Yeap, I can see you voted for him, that was his words to the American people when Obamacare, etc.. was put in place. " Get over it" lol
In response to the creep comment. KMA!!!!!
enough wrote:
<quoted text>The election over get over it creep
Timothy

Cookeville, TN

#38 Feb 4, 2013
gun packing Vet wrote:
The Birth Cert. "Is a live birth cert" Mine says Cert of birth" to much is question, and not produced until way later.(if you dont think he can side step land mines which in office your mistaken"
College Records:
Yes, that is correct. Whu wouldnt you make the public, after all. You are running for the Top Job?? WHy would the Saudi's give 20m donation and pay for his school?
Why would his SSN be tied to a Ales name, or he and his wife surrendered their Law License?
3. No, saying he was sorry when Americans are killed over the Kuran. and apologizing for it.
Some things aren't Negotiable, You do or you dont.
180
1. Gay marriage
2. Taxes for 250k will not see any increase, etc...
DO you truly think the people want Obamacare? No, it was forced on us. Or to pay for a illegal to have medical and college for free? I think not.
Example: Woman in a combat Arms MOS!
Yes, some can meet PT the requirements, and shoot well. Here are some things people may not think about.
1. Being in the field with a female.
Her hormones set in when on the Rag.
Have the Kotex available when she is and needs one.
A man will subject himself to danger for a female much faster than for a man. Just trying to save her, This is human nature, where if it was a man he may think or wait until a better time to move for a rescue or to protect.
While in BNOC there were 2 weeks in the jungle required. There were 2 females in the class. They were more of a burden, and slowed down patrols, needed more attention from Medic's 5 to 1 than the male grunts.
Everyone who serves knows they may be faced to defend their position. Be it a cook, truck driver, Medic, etc.. Thats why they are issued a weapon and receive training to fire it.
Gays in combat Arms MOS.
If I had to have a blood transfusion, and I am on the front line.Its to save my life, I would much rather have it from a straight guy than a Gay. AIDS etc... would be passed to me.
Know nothing about the coward statement you made.
<quoted text>
See post #31 for coward statement.

“John Averitt is a molester.”

Since: Nov 08

Cookeville

#39 Feb 4, 2013
They certainly should in some cases.
Desert Storm Vet

Tullahoma, TN

#40 Feb 4, 2013
DeDominicis wrote:
They certainly should in some cases.
Yes, Like in your case. Our country would be one step closer to solving its problems.
Barry

San Jose, CA

#41 Feb 4, 2013
Why is Washington stockpiling massive amounts of ammunition (hollow points, by the way), why is Homeland Security doing the buying instead of the Defense Department?
I have some theories.
Do you remember Barack Obama’s little-noticed announcement that, if elected in 2008, he wanted to create a “civilian national security force” as big, as strong and as well-funded as the Defense Department.
Here’s what he actually said at a campaign stop in Colorado July 2, 2008:“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
Could what we see happening now in the Department of Homeland Security be the beginning of Obama’s dream and our constitutional nightmare?
He made the campaign promise to build this $439 billion domestic army, but all references to the initiative were inexplicably deleted from the copy of his speech posted on his website while others mysteriously disappeared from transcripts of the speech distributed by the campaign. That was strange – and ominous.
I had never heard anyone use the phrase “civilian national security force” before. But I did a little homework, it was first proposed by then Bush administration Defense Secretary Robert Gates. On that basis alone, Obama named Gates as his own defense secretary.
We never heard another mention of Obama’s “civilian national security force” again in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 or 2012.
But that brings us up to 2013 and the highly unusual stockpiling of firearms and ammo by Homeland Security.
This second term of Obama might mean we will never see another free and fair election in America.(I’m not even sure we saw one in 2012.)
Think about it.
Why does the civilian Department of Homeland Security need billions of rounds of ammunition?
This is the agency that is responsible for policing the border. But it doesn’t.
This is the agency that is responsible for catching terrorists. But it doesn’t.
So why does Homeland Security need so many weapons and enough hollow-point rounds to plug every American six times?
Maybe this is the “civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as the Defense Department.
These words –“civilian national security force”– have haunted me ever since I first read them.
Obama has never explained what he meant.
He’s never been called to account for that remark.
Doesn’t this sound like police-state talk to you?
The U.S. Army alone has nearly 500,000 troops. That doesn’t count reserves or National Guard. In 2007, the U.S. defense budget was $439 billion.
No one knows what the budget is today because Congress stopped passing budgets when Obama took office.
Is Obama serious about creating some kind of domestic security force bigger and more expensive than that? Is this part of his second-term agenda?
He has also set up a new homeland security bureaucracy to operate under his own direction.
I think it’s worth recalling here that just over a year ago both houses of Congress unwisely passed the defense reauthorization bill that killed the concept of habeas corpus – legislation that authorized the president to use the U.S. military to arrest and indefinitely detain American citizens without charge or trial.
That legislation would empower a Obama to use all of the power of the federal government – constitutional and unconstitutional – to target his political enemies.
If any Republican, conservative, independent journalist, pro-life activist, returning veteran, gun-rights activist, constitutionalist, Bible believer or critic of Obama thinks they will be safe in a second term under this would-be despot, they had better think again – real fast.
The “civilian national security force” is not here to protect any of them. It’s here to destroy the opposition. It’s here to destroy liberty. It’s here to destroy the Constitution.

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