Geno

Chicago, IL

#23 Mar 1, 2013
One weekend a month
IMHO

San Mateo, CA

#24 Mar 1, 2013
wtfe wrote:
<quoted text>DEAD BEATS always have an excuse. Don't wait on having a relationship with your child, tomorrow is never promised to any of us and the damage done to the child in those years that you are absent are sometimes irreparable.
Why don't you kiss mine - and every other man who's had to put up with dumb shit from women like you - kiss our collective ASS! Oh yeah..we're deadbeats all right. Dead freakin' tired from working two jobs to support you lazy heifers who lied to us and said you loved us no matter what. Deadbeat whores...
holly

United States

#25 Mar 2, 2013
IMHO wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't you kiss mine - and every other man who's had to put up with dumb shit from women like you - kiss our collective ASS! Oh yeah..we're deadbeats all right. Dead freakin' tired from working two jobs to support you lazy heifers who lied to us and said you loved us no matter what. Deadbeat whores...
Ignore her. She's obviously has never heard of deadbeat mothers. Notice how she doesn't comprehend what is being said, she just railroads right on about men not being in their kids lives. I'm a woman and I have seen a lot of women who want to nail their ex's beyond what child support should be. I have a friend who receives more than adequate support from her child's father, but she won't work, has her nails professionally done, has the latest fashions and spends the money on her and not the child and she complains about not having money. Women like her make me sick. My ex and I worked out supporting our daughter together. I worked and actually was the bigger earner, but my ex and I pretty much split the costs of raising her. I was more worried about my daughter being emotionally secure than bleeding my ex for as much as I could get. There are deadbeat dads, but there are some who just want a little fairness.
IMHO

San Mateo, CA

#26 Mar 2, 2013
holly wrote:
<quoted text>
Ignore her. She's obviously has never heard of deadbeat mothers. Notice how she doesn't comprehend what is being said, she just railroads right on about men not being in their kids lives. I'm a woman and I have seen a lot of women who want to nail their ex's beyond what child support should be. I have a friend who receives more than adequate support from her child's father, but she won't work, has her nails professionally done, has the latest fashions and spends the money on her and not the child and she complains about not having money. Women like her make me sick. My ex and I worked out supporting our daughter together. I worked and actually was the bigger earner, but my ex and I pretty much split the costs of raising her. I was more worried about my daughter being emotionally secure than bleeding my ex for as much as I could get. There are deadbeat dads, but there are some who just want a little fairness.
You are awesome. I applaud you - you made my morning!
IMHOS

Cookeville, TN

#27 Mar 2, 2013
IMHO wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't you kiss mine - and every other man who's had to put up with dumb shit from women like you - kiss our collective ASS! Oh yeah..we're deadbeats all right. Dead freakin' tired from working two jobs to support you lazy heifers who lied to us and said you loved us no matter what. Deadbeat whores...
I work and raise my children by myself, is that not considered two jobs? Who is there when I am tired after a 50- 60 hour week of working? Who is there for the school meetings and carrying them to the doctor when they are sick, who is the one that is with the child EVERY single day? And as far as love goes, who could love someone like you- it is obvious that you are a depressed and angry individual who does not want to see or support your child.
holier than thou holly

Cookeville, TN

#28 Mar 2, 2013
holly wrote:
<quoted text>
Ignore her. She's obviously has never heard of deadbeat mothers. Notice how she doesn't comprehend what is being said, she just railroads right on about men not being in their kids lives. I'm a woman and I have seen a lot of women who want to nail their ex's beyond what child support should be. I have a friend who receives more than adequate support from her child's father, but she won't work, has her nails professionally done, has the latest fashions and spends the money on her and not the child and she complains about not having money. Women like her make me sick. My ex and I worked out supporting our daughter together. I worked and actually was the bigger earner, but my ex and I pretty much split the costs of raising her. I was more worried about my daughter being emotionally secure than bleeding my ex for as much as I could get. There are deadbeat dads, but there are some who just want a little fairness.
I have heard of dead beat moms, there are a lot of grandparents out there raising kids because the mom is too busy partying or shacking up with every man she meets. The original discussion is about how much child support one should have to pay and how the non custodial thinks what he pays is more than enough to cover everything and I simply am stating that there is not a price tag that can be put on the raising and supporting of a child. If you don't pay support you are a deadbeat the same goes for those not active in their child's life. DEADBEAT means both!
IMHO

San Mateo, CA

#29 Mar 2, 2013
IMHOS wrote:
<quoted text>I work and raise my children by myself, is that not considered two jobs? Who is there when I am tired after a 50- 60 hour week of working? Who is there for the school meetings and carrying them to the doctor when they are sick, who is the one that is with the child EVERY single day? And as far as love goes, who could love someone like you- it is obvious that you are a depressed and angry individual who does not want to see or support your child.
Just for your information you stupid twit, MY kids are all grown now and out of high school. My oldest son graduated from West Point, served a tour in both Iraq and Afgahnistan, and is due to graduate from Harvard Law in May. My daughter followed in her Dad's footsteps and served in the United States Navy - and graduated the Nuclear Power program. My two younger boys are both fine young men who get up every morning and have jobs and go to work. I actually have good relationships with all my kids. And, I paid MY child support bitch! I starved, ate Ramen noodles, slept in my vehicle when I couldn't afford an apartment, but BY GOD I payed it. Lets see YOU live on a 62 cent paycheck. Yeah - that's what I thought! Nobody told you to pull your panties down and get knocked up with kids you couldn't support, so I don't wanna hear your little pitiful sob story. You brought those kids into the world, and apparently didn't need or want the help of a GOOD man to help raise them. Either that, or you couldn't FIND a good man, just some effing drunk or pill head with a hard dick and no concience. Hell, you probably wouldn't know a GOOD man if you tripped over him! Take responsibility for your own actions and don't come on here trying to bust my balls - I've done my part for my kids and am still doing it every day. Get your facts straight bitch,'cause you don't know me!
IMHO

San Mateo, CA

#30 Mar 2, 2013
holier than thou holly wrote:
<quoted text>I have heard of dead beat moms, there are a lot of grandparents out there raising kids because the mom is too busy partying or shacking up with every man she meets. The original discussion is about how much child support one should have to pay and how the non custodial thinks what he pays is more than enough to cover everything and I simply am stating that there is not a price tag that can be put on the raising and supporting of a child. If you don't pay support you are a deadbeat the same goes for those not active in their child's life. DEADBEAT means both!
I agree with you about deadbeats, however, I think you missed the point that the original poster was concerned that she wanted to take him back to court for money to cover things that the children WANTED, not actually NEEDED. He'll help them out with their wish list, I'm sure. But phones, cars and car insurance for his kids are not considered NECESSITIES. However, I kinda figure the prom dress is, and so to clarify before someone jumps my case, me personally I WOULD spring for the daughter's prom dress.
IMHO

San Mateo, CA

#31 Mar 2, 2013
IMHOS wrote:
<quoted text>I work and raise my children by myself, is that not considered two jobs? Who is there when I am tired after a 50- 60 hour week of working? Who is there for the school meetings and carrying them to the doctor when they are sick, who is the one that is with the child EVERY single day? And as far as love goes, who could love someone like you- it is obvious that you are a depressed and angry individual who does not want to see or support your child.
And by the way - I've been married to the same woman for over twelve years now. She not only loves me, she puts up with my shit. Who you got doin' that for you? Oh yeah, that's right. NOBODY!
Geno

Mooresboro, NC

#32 Mar 2, 2013
^^^ I wish there was a like button on my phone. Good for you
holly

United States

#33 Mar 2, 2013
IMHO wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you about deadbeats, however, I think you missed the point that the original poster was concerned that she wanted to take him back to court for money to cover things that the children WANTED, not actually NEEDED. He'll help them out with their wish list, I'm sure. But phones, cars and car insurance for his kids are not considered NECESSITIES. However, I kinda figure the prom dress is, and so to clarify before someone jumps my case, me personally I WOULD spring for the daughter's prom dress.
Thank you for addressing this, you stated exactly what the OP said. It's not about getting out of child support, but some other items such as cars, phones, etc. Somehow this thread got twisted into the idea that the OP was a deadbeat dad. He was inquiring about the extra items and somehow that was misconstrued that he wasnt paying AND spending time with his kids. It's always amusing when people can read the same post and people will talk about somethining that is not even mentiomed. The bottom line is both parents should get their emotions for each other out of the way and look at what will serve the child, not them. As you can tell there are some people whose opinions are highly charged about this subject, and I understand this, however let's don't embellish a post with things which were not said. I suspect this behavior is why so many ex's just can't cut each other a break. It's all about who has the last word and that is not what the kids need to see or hear.
holly

United States

#34 Mar 2, 2013
holier than thou holly wrote:
<quoted text>I have heard of dead beat moms, there are a lot of grandparents out there raising kids because the mom is too busy partying or shacking up with every man she meets. The original discussion is about how much child support one should have to pay and how the non custodial thinks what he pays is more than enough to cover everything and I simply am stating that there is not a price tag that can be put on the raising and supporting of a child. If you don't pay support you are a deadbeat the same goes for those not active in their child's life. DEADBEAT means both!
I like your handle. It actually made me laugh out loud! Thanks.
Yeah right

Florence, SC

#35 Mar 3, 2013
wtfe wrote:
<quoted text>DEAD BEATS always have an excuse. Don't wait on having a relationship with your child, tomorrow is never promised to any of us and the damage done to the child in those years that you are absent are sometimes irreparable.
Here we go another bitter woman who got what she wants and now states about relationships?
Gee...you must be a PA a parent alienatior.
She should have swallowed

Florence, SC

#36 Mar 3, 2013
IMHO wrote:
<quoted text>
Just for your information you stupid twit, MY kids are all grown now and out of high school. My oldest son graduated from West Point, served a tour in both Iraq and Afgahnistan, and is due to graduate from Harvard Law in May. My daughter followed in her Dad's footsteps and served in the United States Navy - and graduated the Nuclear Power program. My two younger boys are both fine young men who get up every morning and have jobs and go to work. I actually have good relationships with all my kids. And, I paid MY child support bitch! I starved, ate Ramen noodles, slept in my vehicle when I couldn't afford an apartment, but BY GOD I payed it. Lets see YOU live on a 62 cent paycheck. Yeah - that's what I thought! Nobody told you to pull your panties down and get knocked up with kids you couldn't support, so I don't wanna hear your little pitiful sob story. You brought those kids into the world, and apparently didn't need or want the help of a GOOD man to help raise them. Either that, or you couldn't FIND a good man, just some effing drunk or pill head with a hard dick and no concience. Hell, you probably wouldn't know a GOOD man if you tripped over him! Take responsibility for your own actions and don't come on here trying to bust my balls - I've done my part for my kids and am still doing it every day. Get your facts straight bitch,'cause you don't know me!
Another angry bitch, and probably one of those welfare queens who could not keep her legs closed. No wonder we are being sequestered because of bitches like this.
hmmm

United States

#37 Mar 3, 2013
IMHOS wrote:
<quoted text>I work and raise my children by myself, is that not considered two jobs? Who is there when I am tired after a 50- 60 hour week of working? Who is there for the school meetings and carrying them to the doctor when they are sick, who is the one that is with the child EVERY single day? And as far as love goes, who could love someone like you- it is obvious that you are a depressed and angry individual who does not want to see or support your child.
So where is the father of your kids? Did he leave? If so, I feel bad for you and your children, but everyone is not getting the fact that the OP didn't say he was not supporting his kids, did he? Did he also say he did not see them? I'm just trying to see where those two items were ever stated. Somehow what the OP stated has been twisted into someone's interpretation and it is not correct and now everyone is on a bandwagon of beating up the OP. I think we have some single parents or children of divorce who had or did have a hard time and it's clouding what the original question was. Just saying.
lil mama

Cookeville, TN

#38 Mar 3, 2013
IMHO wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you about deadbeats, however, I think you missed the point that the original poster was concerned that she wanted to take him back to court for money to cover things that the children WANTED, not actually NEEDED. He'll help them out with their wish list, I'm sure. But phones, cars and car insurance for his kids are not considered NECESSITIES. However, I kinda figure the prom dress is, and so to clarify before someone jumps my case, me personally I WOULD spring for the daughter's prom dress.
We've just had to back to DCS regarding my husband's ex demanding he pay half of the "luxuries" she buys their little girl. We're raising our own and cannot pay for designer clothes and concerts on top of child support and school and sports expenses. We've already bought her a good used car, and we feed her when she's with us and give her gas money (when she does her chores) and buy her clothes, too. And DCS decided the screaming phone calls were totally harrassing and she would stop or they would take action.
I was a single mother for a few years. I've seen both sides. Bottom line, ladies: Just because you got naked and had intercourse and then squatted and gave birth DOES NOT mean you always get your way. No one has to support your lifestyle nor the spoiling of your kid. For the record, nope, she don't work. Can't keep a job. Hubby and I both work overtime, every week.
geez

United States

#39 Mar 3, 2013
wtfe wrote:
<quoted text>Out of sight- out of mind. Do you spend your weekends with your kids?
Well, not always. My son is grown and stationed in Germany. I have grandchildren and we Skype often since it's expensive for me to fly there. You're wrong about out of sight out of mind. I think about him and his family all the time. Do you spend weekends with your kids? Not nice, is it? That's what I meant about the sweeping generalizations.
AMEN

United States

#40 Mar 3, 2013
IMHO wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't you kiss mine - and every other man who's had to put up with dumb shit from women like you - kiss our collective ASS! Oh yeah..we're deadbeats all right. Dead freakin' tired from working two jobs to support you lazy heifers who lied to us and said you loved us no matter what. Deadbeat whores...
I started the post in the first place and I just wanted to know how miserable the ex was gonna make me before it was over? She doubles what I make and has 5 vehicles (one for her dogs) I am not paying for her DOGS VEHICLE the kids are not hurting but we sure do without on this end so I can keep that spiteful woman semi happy and shut her up. It was a simple question and I'm gonna have to agree with the above comment because I'VE NEVER MISSED A PAYMENT and she's supposed to pay for things the kids need not DOG CARS and then tell me to pay a cell bill and car insurance that's what I pay the weekly amount for !!!
Ya know me

Tullahoma, TN

#41 Mar 4, 2013
Amanda Borden needs to pay her child support on all three of her kids instead of lay on her fat lazy ass in a drunk Mexicans trailer who buys her pills and needles while she waits for her disability check at age 32 and nothing nothing wrong but lazy and likes free loading
Cheryl

Mount Juliet, TN

#42 Mar 4, 2013
AMEN wrote:
<quoted text> I started the post in the first place and I just wanted to know how miserable the ex was gonna make me before it was over? She doubles what I make and has 5 vehicles (one for her dogs) I am not paying for her DOGS VEHICLE the kids are not hurting but we sure do without on this end so I can keep that spiteful woman semi happy and shut her up. It was a simple question and I'm gonna have to agree with the above comment because I'VE NEVER MISSED A PAYMENT and she's supposed to pay for things the kids need not DOG CARS and then tell me to pay a cell bill and car insurance that's what I pay the weekly amount for !!!
I agree with you 100%!!! My husband pays child support and I'm to get child support so I understand both sides! My kids do not suffer because their dad doesn't pay. My husband and I work overtime every week to make stye all our kids are taken care of. If my ex does party anything, we put it in a account set up for kids. If they want something that is extra, we use that money. No I don't spoil them but they do know they have money available for things they want. My husband and I make sure their needs are met.

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